Brazil GP not finished yet!!!
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Stop Press – Fisichella may yet be named Brazilian winner.
The saga of the 2003 Brazilian grand prix is not over yet. With every detail of the race being picked over, it is looking increasingly likely that Giancarlo Fisichella will be awarded his first grand prix victory.
An FIA press release has confirmed that the Stewards of the race will reconvene in Paris on April 11th to discuss the matter and that all parties involved with the decision are invited to attend.
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Stop Press – Fisichella may yet be named Brazilian winner.
The saga of the 2003 Brazilian grand prix is not over yet. With every detail of the race being picked over, it is looking increasingly likely that Giancarlo Fisichella will be awarded his first grand prix victory.
An FIA press release has confirmed that the Stewards of the race will reconvene in Paris on April 11th to discuss the matter and that all parties involved with the decision are invited to attend.
More on autosport too...
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www.formula1.com/news/article/209.html
"Fisichella won Brazilian grand prix" says Schumacher
Michael Schumacher has added fuel to the embers of the fire which briefly erupted with the conclusion of the Brazilian grand prix. Although all parties involved seem to have accepted the result and Kimi Räikkönen’s victory, the world champion has publicly stated that, in his opinion, Giancarlo Fisichella won the race.
The German’s argument revolves around the implementation of the FIA’s ‘countback’ rule. The race was stopped on the 55th lap of 71 and under the FIA's red flag regulations the result was counted back two laps. The result was therefore based on the positions held at the end of lap 53. Where Schumacher’s query arises is in the fact that the race was allowed to be stopped because it had run over 75% distance.
Schumacher says that if the FIA has implemented this rule then it has done so incorrectly. 75% race distance occurred on lap 54, thus if race results are taken from lap 53 then the race had run less laps than the point at which it is possible to end it and award full points.
"One gets full points if three quarters of the distance is completed," explained Schumacher on German television, "which would be 54 laps. 55 laps were raced but two were deducted and based on this, Räikkönen was declared the winner.
"If the FIA say that more laps were raced then they must declare Fisichella the winner," he continued, "It will be interesting to see how they explain this.”
Possibly the intelligent comment from Schumacher ever?
Ammusing anyway!!!
www.formula1.com/news/article/209.html
"Fisichella won Brazilian grand prix" says Schumacher
Michael Schumacher has added fuel to the embers of the fire which briefly erupted with the conclusion of the Brazilian grand prix. Although all parties involved seem to have accepted the result and Kimi Räikkönen’s victory, the world champion has publicly stated that, in his opinion, Giancarlo Fisichella won the race.
The German’s argument revolves around the implementation of the FIA’s ‘countback’ rule. The race was stopped on the 55th lap of 71 and under the FIA's red flag regulations the result was counted back two laps. The result was therefore based on the positions held at the end of lap 53. Where Schumacher’s query arises is in the fact that the race was allowed to be stopped because it had run over 75% distance.
Schumacher says that if the FIA has implemented this rule then it has done so incorrectly. 75% race distance occurred on lap 54, thus if race results are taken from lap 53 then the race had run less laps than the point at which it is possible to end it and award full points.
"One gets full points if three quarters of the distance is completed," explained Schumacher on German television, "which would be 54 laps. 55 laps were raced but two were deducted and based on this, Räikkönen was declared the winner.
"If the FIA say that more laps were raced then they must declare Fisichella the winner," he continued, "It will be interesting to see how they explain this.”
Possibly the intelligent comment from Schumacher ever?
Ammusing anyway!!!
In reality Fisichella one the race as he led the last recorded lap before the red flag was thrown.
But the FIA regulations clearly state the result is always taken from 2 laps before the red flag. Why I don't know but it is written in black & white.
look at page 17 (top of right hand column) of www.fia.com/regle/REG_SPT/F1-Reglement-Sportif-a.pdf
But the FIA regulations clearly state the result is always taken from 2 laps before the red flag. Why I don't know but it is written in black & white.
look at page 17 (top of right hand column) of www.fia.com/regle/REG_SPT/F1-Reglement-Sportif-a.pdf
its just been announced that michele alboreto won the 1989 french gp 
but seriously where has this "last two laps" rule come form. its always been the chap who was leading at the end of the last complete lap. i smell somethin' an' it don't smell good! fisi won that race, and very soon the FIA will announce a statement to say so.
but seriously where has this "last two laps" rule come form. its always been the chap who was leading at the end of the last complete lap. i smell somethin' an' it don't smell good! fisi won that race, and very soon the FIA will announce a statement to say so.
pablo said:where has this "last two laps" rule come form. its always been the chap who was leading at the end of the last complete lap. i smell somethin' an' it don't smell good! fisi won that race, and very soon the FIA will announce a statement to say so.
er, here..... look at page 17 (top of right hand column) of www.fia.com/regle/REG_SPT/F1-Reglement-Sportif-a.pdf
bob the planner said: Given the location of the accident and the time taken to throw the red flag, did Fisichella pass the line at the end of lap 56 before it was officially stopped ? It seemed to take a very long time before the red flags were waved on the TV coverage.
Bob
That is I believe why there is the fuss about whether Fisi won or not. The theory is that Fisi had crossed the line to start lap 56 when the red flag was shown and therefore the count-back should go back to the end of lap 54. There are a couple of articles on this subject at www.grandprix.com. Whatever the answer looks like a shambles to me! They apparently missed Ralf Schmacher offertaking before the start line on a restart too.
kevinday said: In my morning cynical mode I would suggest M Shumacher as being totally interested in seeing Fisichella being announced as the winner, Kimi would be 4 points less in front of MS if this was the case.
Agreed, but surely 2 points this year... debate seems to centre on whether falg was in response to Webber or Alonso, coverage implied Alonso, certainly a big delay from Webbers accident... I think out of all of this Webber and Jaguar stand to loose the most (only 2 but actually all of their points!)
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