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Peanut Gallery said:
Heading south , I would go Nairn, Ferness, Grantown, Tomintoul, Cock Bridge, Gairnshiel, Crathie, Braemar. Glenshee, left to Pitlochry before Perth.
That's what I would do heading East.Edited by Peanut Gallery on Saturday 13th October 22:18
From Forres/Findhorn eastwards you can actually drive fairly close to the Moray Firth coastline all the way to the Spey which is another run that keeps you off the delightful A96 - some nice fishing villages along the way although bleak in winter.
When you hit the Spey at Garmouth you need to come inland to Fochabers to cross it, but can immediately (literally) then head north again and travel all along the coast to continue eastwards.
Good driving day today. Eight solid hours of seat time.
I will split my story into two today because I want to sell you two drives.
The first part is again a road section from a former HERO LeJog classic car rallye around Marybank, west of Inverness. As the weather was overcast in the morning, I decided to re-run this section for fun. The roads turned out to be superb, and the scenery equally so. Try to do it once without sat-nav, and clockwise in any case. There are a number of tricks built into the map that will surprise you, as they will surprise unaware rallyeists. Again, this was a timed regularity section, meaning that you had to stick to a certain average speed (for example 22 mph) while trying to find the route from maps.
Weather then became gradually better and I decided to zig-zag from Marybank towards the A833 and down to Drumnadrochit, a very good road and very little traffic. Then I beamed to Fort Augustus (which took longer than I wanted) and went up the B862 again, then the B851 right to the A9.
Single track roads most of the time, and beautiful scenery all of the time.
I will split my story into two today because I want to sell you two drives.
The first part is again a road section from a former HERO LeJog classic car rallye around Marybank, west of Inverness. As the weather was overcast in the morning, I decided to re-run this section for fun. The roads turned out to be superb, and the scenery equally so. Try to do it once without sat-nav, and clockwise in any case. There are a number of tricks built into the map that will surprise you, as they will surprise unaware rallyeists. Again, this was a timed regularity section, meaning that you had to stick to a certain average speed (for example 22 mph) while trying to find the route from maps.
Weather then became gradually better and I decided to zig-zag from Marybank towards the A833 and down to Drumnadrochit, a very good road and very little traffic. Then I beamed to Fort Augustus (which took longer than I wanted) and went up the B862 again, then the B851 right to the A9.
Single track roads most of the time, and beautiful scenery all of the time.
The second part of today´s drive was actually a HERO LeJog classic car rallye regularity also. This I drove in 2009, but during the night so no scenery then. Totally different today. In 2009, I also crashed into a small bridge (which cost us a number of minutes, precious on a timed regularity section) which I successfully avoided repating today.
I provide the map and the pictures, you do the driving. Drive clockwise, even if you only do parts of the route.
The roads are rather easy to find, except the corkscrew road out of Inverfarigaig. It says "Unsuitable for HGV" on a sign, You very soon realise that you got the right road. Further on, you may have to open a gate but keep going. I would say that this road is not suitable for supercars, otherwise ok.
I provide the map and the pictures, you do the driving. Drive clockwise, even if you only do parts of the route.
The roads are rather easy to find, except the corkscrew road out of Inverfarigaig. It says "Unsuitable for HGV" on a sign, You very soon realise that you got the right road. Further on, you may have to open a gate but keep going. I would say that this road is not suitable for supercars, otherwise ok.
Edited by chalda on Sunday 14th October 20:30
Peanut Gallery said:
Red Devil will quit rightly correct me if I go wrong, but..
See Pitlochry. 
Peanut Gallery said:
Depending on your thoughts of dolphins, head north east to chanonry point.
- Did the Black Isle in 2017.Chanonry Point
Had lunch in Cromarty.
Nigg Fabrication Yard: taken from here - https://goo.gl/maps/CWSqbiF8UUm
Rigs from Marine Terrace - https://goo.gl/maps/gMAf6W26Dq82
Peanut Gallery said:
Heading south , I would go Nairn, Ferness, Grantown, Tomintoul, Cock Bridge, Gairnshiel, Crathie, Braemar. Glenshee, left to Pitlochry before Perth.
Agreed, except I wouldn't go via Nairn unless I had a specific need to (i.e. V-Power).Instead head past the battlefield at Culloden Moor then via Cawdor to reach the A939.
https://goo.gl/maps/jFZT1rPFYuv
Er, if you're heading south a left turn will take you east. Pitlochry is west of the A93.
Again, unless you want to visit the town, by-pass it by taking the minor road past the Edradour distillery
https://goo.gl/maps/kZ3MTj78gCB2
Peanut Gallery said:
Somewhere west of Pitlochry is a really nice narrow road, with a good hairpin with decent views.
Here? - https://goo.gl/maps/n8piYo3sQDC2Peanut Gallery said:
Edit, if you like museums, head north on the a9 to Dunrobin Castle, there is a small extra room out the back that gave me a bit of a surprise!
The ship's figurehead, the Pictish stones, or being greeted at eye level by a grinning porpoise? 
This year's trip - https://i.imgur.com/qZc4vmn.jpg
On the subject of museums I can recommend a visit to the Grampian Transport Museum at Alford.
If you're heading south on the A939 continue straight on (A944) at Corgarff instead of turning right.
https://goo.gl/maps/fn9RgVkdt5P2
https://goo.gl/maps/hUM2s2LYeG42
chalda said:
Weather then became gradually better and I decided to zig-zag from Marybank towards the A833 and down to Drumnadrochit, a very good road and very little traffic.
Ssshhhh: don't tell everybody!chalda said:
The roads are rather easy to find, except the corkscrew road out of Inverfarigaig. It says "Unsuitable for HGV" on a sign, You very soon realise that you got the right road. Further on, you may have to open a gate but keep going. I would say that this road is not suitable for supercars, otherwise ok.
Not signposted, so is easy to miss especially if heading north - https://goo.gl/maps/t65EAtvPYx32Also, the blue 'Unsuitable' sign is set well back from the junction - https://goo.gl/maps/EFDzxkQWaiq
The Glen Kyllachy road from the River Findhorn across to Farr is a cracking drive - https://goo.gl/maps/kzdnjQnJqtA2
Red Devil said:
Peanut Gallery said:
Red Devil will quit rightly correct me if I go wrong, but..
See Pitlochry. Red Devil said:
Peanut Gallery said:
Depending on your thoughts of dolphins, head north east to chanonry point.
- Did the Black Isle in 2017.I'm more a face the other way person
Had lunch in Cromarty.
Red Devil said:
Nigg Fabrication Yard: taken from here - https://goo.gl/maps/CWSqbiF8UUm
I do like the Black Isle ferry!(I would insert a picture here, the ferry was just big enough for my Fiesta and a small boat trailer, but all my pics in that folder have died)
Red Devil said:
Rigs from Marine Terrace - https://goo.gl/maps/gMAf6W26Dq82
Those physical rigs are still there, although they have now been sold to another company, and then sold onto yet another company for scrap. I've driven up just to see them. I'm sad, I know.Red Devil said:
Peanut Gallery said:
Heading south , I would go Nairn, Ferness, Grantown, Tomintoul, Cock Bridge, Gairnshiel, Crathie, Braemar. Glenshee, left to Pitlochry before Perth.
Agreed, except I wouldn't go via Nairn unless I had a specific need to (i.e. V-Power).Instead head past the battlefield at Culloden Moor then via Cawdor to reach the A939.
https://goo.gl/maps/jFZT1rPFYuv
Red Devil said:
Er, if you're heading south a left turn will take you east. Pitlochry is west of the A93.
Again, unless you want to visit the town, by-pass it by taking the minor road past the Edradour distillery
https://goo.gl/maps/kZ3MTj78gCB2
By left I meant right... Again, unless you want to visit the town, by-pass it by taking the minor road past the Edradour distillery
https://goo.gl/maps/kZ3MTj78gCB2
Red Devil said:
Peanut Gallery said:
Somewhere west of Pitlochry is a really nice narrow road, with a good hairpin with decent views.
Here? - https://goo.gl/maps/n8piYo3sQDC2Red Devil said:
Peanut Gallery said:
Edit, if you like museums, head north on the a9 to Dunrobin Castle, there is a small extra room out the back that gave me a bit of a surprise!
The ship's figurehead, the Pictish stones, or being greeted at eye level by a grinning porpoise? This year's trip - https://i.imgur.com/qZc4vmn.jpg
On the subject of museums I can recommend a visit to the Grampian Transport Museum at Alford.
If you're heading south on the A939 continue straight on (A944) at Corgarff instead of turning right.
https://goo.gl/maps/fn9RgVkdt5P2
https://goo.gl/maps/hUM2s2LYeG42
chalda said:
Weather then became gradually better and I decided to zig-zag from Marybank towards the A833 and down to Drumnadrochit, a very good road and very little traffic.
Ssshhhh: don't tell everybody!chalda said:
The roads are rather easy to find, except the corkscrew road out of Inverfarigaig. It says "Unsuitable for HGV" on a sign, You very soon realise that you got the right road. Further on, you may have to open a gate but keep going. I would say that this road is not suitable for supercars, otherwise ok.
Not signposted, so is easy to miss especially if heading north - https://goo.gl/maps/t65EAtvPYx32Also, the blue 'Unsuitable' sign is set well back from the junction - https://goo.gl/maps/EFDzxkQWaiq
The Glen Kyllachy road from the River Findhorn across to Farr is a cracking drive - https://goo.gl/maps/kzdnjQnJqtA2
From Inverness to Edinburgh today, the hard way.
What a driving day. There wasn´t a single road today that wasn´t superb.
This is the route: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Culloden+Battlefie...
Some comments on the sections.
Unmarked road from Cawdor to Dulsie: Single track, great scenery, deserted, Dulsie bridge.
A9007 north: Fast, sweeping, good road, deserted. Fun to drive. If you don´t enjoy this road, you do not have petrol in your veins.
A940/A939: Cairngorms. Very quiet today but you might get stuck behind a motorhome. Superb.
B976: Single track again but do it by any means.
A93: We are firmly back in the world of motorhomes here, but great scenery and the road south of Glenshee is fun, if a bit frantic.
B950: Nothing frantic here, wonderful autumn colours, perfect road.
A924: Total surprise. Great mix of scenery, great to drive, some traffic but not bad.
Tummel bridge: Again, a HERO LeJog regularity section that I will describe in more betail later.
B846: Wonderful and deserted.
Unmarked road from Kenmore to Amulree: This is a HERO LeJog section again. We did it from south to north, but do it from north to south in any case! You start with a couple of hairpins, are led onto a great plain and then descend into Amulree with the greatest possible scenery. And some hairpins again.
South of Amulree, I zig-zagged towards Edinburgh until I was so tired that I gave up.
What a driving day. There wasn´t a single road today that wasn´t superb.
This is the route: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Culloden+Battlefie...
Some comments on the sections.
Unmarked road from Cawdor to Dulsie: Single track, great scenery, deserted, Dulsie bridge.
A9007 north: Fast, sweeping, good road, deserted. Fun to drive. If you don´t enjoy this road, you do not have petrol in your veins.
A940/A939: Cairngorms. Very quiet today but you might get stuck behind a motorhome. Superb.
B976: Single track again but do it by any means.
A93: We are firmly back in the world of motorhomes here, but great scenery and the road south of Glenshee is fun, if a bit frantic.
B950: Nothing frantic here, wonderful autumn colours, perfect road.
A924: Total surprise. Great mix of scenery, great to drive, some traffic but not bad.
Tummel bridge: Again, a HERO LeJog regularity section that I will describe in more betail later.
B846: Wonderful and deserted.
Unmarked road from Kenmore to Amulree: This is a HERO LeJog section again. We did it from south to north, but do it from north to south in any case! You start with a couple of hairpins, are led onto a great plain and then descend into Amulree with the greatest possible scenery. And some hairpins again.
South of Amulree, I zig-zagged towards Edinburgh until I was so tired that I gave up.
Edited by chalda on Tuesday 16th October 06:59
chalda said:
From Inverness to Edinburgh today, the hard best way.
FTFY. Except for your dog-leg after Cawdor (B9007/A940) that's the exact route I took between Inverness and Perth two years ago.
As I was staying overnight at Broxden, I turned left at the crossroads after Findo Gask.
Didn't have your luck with the weather though. Heavy cloud cover was not all conducive for decent pics: a total lack of contrast.
Now for the roads around Loch Tummel, as promised earlier.
Around Loch Tummel we drove a regularity section on the 2009 HERO LeJog rallye that I can hardly remember because we had driven a few hours already and it was pitch dark. I re-run those roads yesterday and they are pure rallying magic. Let me explain.
First, this is the route. Seems unsurprising. Remember, this again is a timed regularity section, which means that you have to stick to an average speed that seems not high at first, i. e. 18 mph. But you have to stick to it by any means and you are penalised for every second you deviate from your set time.
Do it from south to north, i. e. from right to left by any means! The first trick is finding the starting point at all, with the A9 malarky going on and chaos in Pitlochry.
Then you go along the southern shore of Loch Tummel, a perfect single track road through woods but literally JUST along the loch. A frantic movement at the steering wheel and you are IN the loch.
Once you have survived that you need to negotiate the roads around Tummel Bridge and find your way onto the unmarked SE-NW road that shortcuts the B846 and B847. This road is dead straight, super fast and the most fun you can have in a car. Believe me. From SE to NW you want a powerful car, from NW to SE the road just asks for a committed driver.
And when you think you have seen it all, you turn left at Dalchalloch towards Dalnacardoch. The entry is again totally unremarkable, but you are then confronted with a number of hairpins that let you gain altitude quickly.
Overall, three road sections in close connection, each one surprising, fun and demanding. Pure LeJog magic.
Around Loch Tummel we drove a regularity section on the 2009 HERO LeJog rallye that I can hardly remember because we had driven a few hours already and it was pitch dark. I re-run those roads yesterday and they are pure rallying magic. Let me explain.
First, this is the route. Seems unsurprising. Remember, this again is a timed regularity section, which means that you have to stick to an average speed that seems not high at first, i. e. 18 mph. But you have to stick to it by any means and you are penalised for every second you deviate from your set time.
Do it from south to north, i. e. from right to left by any means! The first trick is finding the starting point at all, with the A9 malarky going on and chaos in Pitlochry.
Then you go along the southern shore of Loch Tummel, a perfect single track road through woods but literally JUST along the loch. A frantic movement at the steering wheel and you are IN the loch.
Once you have survived that you need to negotiate the roads around Tummel Bridge and find your way onto the unmarked SE-NW road that shortcuts the B846 and B847. This road is dead straight, super fast and the most fun you can have in a car. Believe me. From SE to NW you want a powerful car, from NW to SE the road just asks for a committed driver.
And when you think you have seen it all, you turn left at Dalchalloch towards Dalnacardoch. The entry is again totally unremarkable, but you are then confronted with a number of hairpins that let you gain altitude quickly.
Overall, three road sections in close connection, each one surprising, fun and demanding. Pure LeJog magic.
Edited by chalda on Tuesday 16th October 21:27
Hello all,
So, I've gotten myself into a bit of a pickle here. It seems to be extremely difficult to find hotels in Scotland that offer a decent amount of quality, 10 rooms and parking.
I'm organising a trip for a group of friends, we are a group of 10 cars, 20 people, and we are thinking about the first or second week of september 2019. We want to spend 4 days, starting from and ending at the ferry in Newcastle. On the first day we can start driving at 10.00 local time, on the last day we have to be at the ferry at 15.00.
I've gone through all 215 pages of this thread, and also looked at the trip I did with 2 cars back in 2015 to see if I can replicate some of it. After loads of research, this is what I came up with:
Day 1: Newcastle - Oban
Option 1: 6h33min
https://goo.gl/maps/p1NwesSHKLF2
Option 2: 6h31min
https://goo.gl/maps/Zu14FiWx6RM2
Option 3: 6h48min
https://goo.gl/maps/ct5jiEu9dnL2
Highlights:
- Moffat exit, to break the boredom of the highway a bit
- The Kelpies as a scenic stop and to have lunch somewhere
- Duke's Pass & Loch Lomond
- Oban Distillery for a guided tour in the evening
Day 2: Start from Oban - stay at The Torridon
Option 1:
https://goo.gl/maps/CgZVgSFXY1A2
Option 2:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZbuwQmmtdZ72
Highlights:
- Glencoe valley in the morning, hopefully not too much traffic
- Scotsburgring
- A87
- Glennfinnan and the Jacobite?
Day 3: Start from The Torridon - Stop in Inverness
Option 1: 5h33min
https://goo.gl/maps/Wvj9sWk339C2
Option 2: 5h8min
https://goo.gl/maps/1422hnG5JiT2
Option 3: 6h18min
https://goo.gl/maps/SQ8LayHvJaP2
Option 4: 5u26min
https://goo.gl/maps/d2XEhKzLNDw
Day 4: Getting home - Start from region Inverness
Option 1: 6u17min
https://goo.gl/maps/B3JaiWUmvMk
Option 2: 7u10min
https://goo.gl/maps/gWapumZr6ty
Highlights:
- Cairngorms
- Kielder Forest
The problem with this is that the hotel that I wanted, The Torridon, has no room to accomodate us. I also can't find any good alternatives. Second problem would be that day 4 might be a bit tight to get from Inverness to the ferry on time.
So now I'm starting to doubt where to go.
I see two options:
- Try to stay lower, and end day 3 below Cairngorms
- Definately stay low and trade the higher parts for Isle of Skye.
Reasons why I chose what I chose in the first place:
- Oban as end destination to visit the distillery and see how whisky is made just before evening dinner
- The Torridon as they have an excellent reputation, good parking options, nice views and a bar to organise a tasting for the group.
Does anyone have any ideas for a trip like this? I'm open to pretty much everything.
So, I've gotten myself into a bit of a pickle here. It seems to be extremely difficult to find hotels in Scotland that offer a decent amount of quality, 10 rooms and parking.
I'm organising a trip for a group of friends, we are a group of 10 cars, 20 people, and we are thinking about the first or second week of september 2019. We want to spend 4 days, starting from and ending at the ferry in Newcastle. On the first day we can start driving at 10.00 local time, on the last day we have to be at the ferry at 15.00.
I've gone through all 215 pages of this thread, and also looked at the trip I did with 2 cars back in 2015 to see if I can replicate some of it. After loads of research, this is what I came up with:
Day 1: Newcastle - Oban
Option 1: 6h33min
https://goo.gl/maps/p1NwesSHKLF2
Option 2: 6h31min
https://goo.gl/maps/Zu14FiWx6RM2
Option 3: 6h48min
https://goo.gl/maps/ct5jiEu9dnL2
Highlights:
- Moffat exit, to break the boredom of the highway a bit
- The Kelpies as a scenic stop and to have lunch somewhere
- Duke's Pass & Loch Lomond
- Oban Distillery for a guided tour in the evening
Day 2: Start from Oban - stay at The Torridon
Option 1:
https://goo.gl/maps/CgZVgSFXY1A2
Option 2:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZbuwQmmtdZ72
Highlights:
- Glencoe valley in the morning, hopefully not too much traffic
- Scotsburgring
- A87
- Glennfinnan and the Jacobite?
Day 3: Start from The Torridon - Stop in Inverness
Option 1: 5h33min
https://goo.gl/maps/Wvj9sWk339C2
Option 2: 5h8min
https://goo.gl/maps/1422hnG5JiT2
Option 3: 6h18min
https://goo.gl/maps/SQ8LayHvJaP2
Option 4: 5u26min
https://goo.gl/maps/d2XEhKzLNDw
Day 4: Getting home - Start from region Inverness
Option 1: 6u17min
https://goo.gl/maps/B3JaiWUmvMk
Option 2: 7u10min
https://goo.gl/maps/gWapumZr6ty
Highlights:
- Cairngorms
- Kielder Forest
The problem with this is that the hotel that I wanted, The Torridon, has no room to accomodate us. I also can't find any good alternatives. Second problem would be that day 4 might be a bit tight to get from Inverness to the ferry on time.
So now I'm starting to doubt where to go.
I see two options:
- Try to stay lower, and end day 3 below Cairngorms
- Definately stay low and trade the higher parts for Isle of Skye.
Reasons why I chose what I chose in the first place:
- Oban as end destination to visit the distillery and see how whisky is made just before evening dinner
- The Torridon as they have an excellent reputation, good parking options, nice views and a bar to organise a tasting for the group.
Does anyone have any ideas for a trip like this? I'm open to pretty much everything.
What about Oban over to Mull (Craignure) and a day doing Mull roads the best in the country imo (watch YouTube videos of the mull rally to see what I mean about the roads) then off Mull on the Tobermory ferry you could also do the tour of the distillery there. Ferry gets you onto the mainland on the Ardnamurchan peninsula. Visit the most westerly point on the mainland and lighthouse.
I would personally stay away from the nc500 as its just so busy now. I am sure getcarter will back me up that it's not as quite as it used to be.
I would personally stay away from the nc500 as its just so busy now. I am sure getcarter will back me up that it's not as quite as it used to be.
A good moment to post some footage from my dashcam
Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
GetCarter said:
2019 isn't 2015. It's WAY more busy due to NC500 and endless worldwide advertising.
Re Torridon (my local), have you considered splitting between the hotel and the Inn for acommodation? Same site, and you can all still eat in either.
we stayed in both at the Torridon. i actually preferred the Inn rooms!! obviously cheaper too.Re Torridon (my local), have you considered splitting between the hotel and the Inn for acommodation? Same site, and you can all still eat in either.
i was amused to hear how the Inn became staffed by Ozzies and the restaurant French. Apparently the staff were more mixed a few years ago but they all migrated to their own national grouping. felt sorry for the sole Brit left serving in the restaurant.
GetCarter said:
A good moment to post some footage from my dashcam
Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
Oh, ffs. Frustrating. Not as angering as people coming around the single tracks in the middle of the road around blind bends far too fast nearly causing head ons. Had those too I guess?Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
johnwilliams77 said:
GetCarter said:
A good moment to post some footage from my dashcam
Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
Oh, ffs. Frustrating. Not as angering as people coming around the single tracks in the middle of the road around blind bends far too fast nearly causing head ons. Had those too I guess?Not that it has anything to do with you guys... just the rest of the known world! Who have NO IDEA how to drive.
https://youtu.be/LaJmF97Leo8
However - pedantry alert - I'd argue it is correct to use the whole road when on true single track to maximise visibility, being all the way over to the right on a left hander for example. You're not passing someone regardless of road position. The too fast bit is the issue.
GetCarter said:
have you considered splitting between the hotel and the Inn for acommodation?
That's not a bad idea as a plan B. Are the rooms equal on "quality"? Biggest issue is that they want us to stay for 2 nights, but we want to do a roadtrip so that's not an option.
avenger286 said:
What about Oban over to Mull (Craignure) and a day doing Mull roads the best in the country imo (watch YouTube videos of the mull rally to see what I mean about the roads) then off Mull on the Tobermory ferry you could also do the tour of the distillery there. Ferry gets you onto the mainland on the Ardnamurchan peninsula. Visit the most westerly point on the mainland and lighthouse.
I would personally stay away from the nc500 as its just so busy now. I am sure getcarter will back me up that it's not as quite as it used to be.
I like mull but I doubt if it would be suitable for low cars? The group is a fan of roads like A87. Fast, flowing roads that are wide enough to pass just about anything. I would personally stay away from the nc500 as its just so busy now. I am sure getcarter will back me up that it's not as quite as it used to be.
If it would be just me I'd go for a longer period and do more singletrack up north, but it isn't just me i'm afraid
That dashcam footage is one of the reasons even, we don't want to get stuck all the time.
How can I find hotels that have a lot of rooms? Most websites don't really allow bookings of that size, so calling everyone is very time consuming.
Edited by PJH1987 on Wednesday 24th October 08:08
Jambo85 said:
That footage is grim!! Quite glad I have avoided peak season so far.
However - pedantry alert - I'd argue it is correct to use the whole road when on true single track to maximise visibility, being all the way over to the right on a left hander for example. You're not passing someone regardless of road position. The too fast bit is the issue.
I always do. The issue is that he had 29 passing places to let me pass and he didn't take any opportunity. He was driving at 25mph in a NSL!However - pedantry alert - I'd argue it is correct to use the whole road when on true single track to maximise visibility, being all the way over to the right on a left hander for example. You're not passing someone regardless of road position. The too fast bit is the issue.
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