National Highways - litter?
National Highways - litter?
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Downward

5,235 posts

125 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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Wolverhampton council are looking at AI littering sensors to combat roadside littering from moving vehicles. AI Solar powered cameras will record and identify licence plates sending the evidence for enforcement.

Tax payers again foot the bill

coppice

9,485 posts

166 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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Well, who else would pay the bill for doing so ? Sounds a smart move, assuming that public crucifixion of litter droppers isn't legalised .

Downward

5,235 posts

125 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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coppice said:
Well, who else would pay the bill for doing so ? Sounds a smart move, assuming that public crucifixion of litter droppers isn't legalised .
I’d put the onus on Mcdonald’s etc charge for bags, Plastic water bottles, not needed put waste tax on them.

hiccy18

3,692 posts

89 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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I don't think it's fair to blame McDonalds if some scummy entitled tt lobs their rubbish out of the window rather than putting it in a bin.

Castrol for a knave

6,912 posts

113 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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When it comes to stting in your own bed, the UK is up there with third world crap holes

Jist back from Girona, and not a piece of litter to been on any of the roads.

Maybe we should tidy up our little corner of the planet, rather than hang those by now bedraggled flags off lampposts, the ones that have not blown down and now sitting at the side of the road.

5s Alive

2,643 posts

56 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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Litter dropping has become normalised, endemic like mobile phone use while driving. Lack of consequences was always going to enable this kind of behaviour and it started so long ago that absent extreme measures or a complete societal and educational reset (that will take generations) we're stuck with it.

Mikebentley

8,213 posts

162 months

Monday 1st December 2025
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Southbound on the M5 just past the Bromsgrove junction there was an area of grass between the slip road and motorway that had literally hundreds of bottles of “Driver Tiber “ dumped on it. An absolute disgrace.

coppice

9,485 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Downward said:
I d put the onus on Mcdonald s etc charge for bags, Plastic water bottles, not needed put waste tax on them.
But all that means is that the McD customer pays more - and most of them are not litter droppers. And if you McD do you tax every other firm whose product is found at the roadside ? It's a community problem for local authorities and the Highywas England to resolve - sensibly targetted taxation might work to allay the cost to the taxpayer but it needs to be far more nuanced than just saying tax McD etc -all food shops of just some of them? Greggs ? Waitrose ?

Motorsport etc gigs take me round the country and it is noticeable how the affluence of an area is in inverse proportion to the amount of litter. I see a lot in Middlesbrough or Rotherham and hardly any in places like Chichester .

Riley Blue

22,843 posts

248 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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I recall from my district councillor days that when fast food outlets were granted planning permission/change of use etc., conditions were put on that required them to pick up litter within a certain radius of their premises, up to 100 metres from memory.


Red Devil

13,423 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Mikebentley said:
Southbound on the M5 just past the Bromsgrove junction there was an area of grass between the slip road and motorway that had literally hundreds of bottles of Driver Tiber dumped on it. An absolute disgrace.
Compared with continental Europe, the UK's provision of truck stops with proper facilities is pitiful.


Leftfootwonder

1,594 posts

80 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Downward said:
I d put the onus on Mcdonald s etc charge for bags, Plastic water bottles, not needed put waste tax on them.
McD's are franchises, so depends on your locality to some degree. For example my local McD's employs a litter picker, who is often seen anywhere in about a half mile radius of the place.

I sometimes wonder if it helps however, as people are more likely to do it if they know someone will pick up after them, maybe?

Condi

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19,527 posts

193 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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To be fair to McDonalds they have massive bins at the end of their car parks and do often employ litter pickers, but a lot of what I see is often things like builders plastic wrap, or other stuff which has most likely fallen off a van or lorry. Some areas to the East of Birmingham, around the airport look terrible at this time of year. HS2 are doing work there and instead of cleaning up first they're just working among the rubbish and it inevitably gets incorporated into their trenches and soil, making it impossible to clean up.

Not sure I agree that poorer areas are more likely to have rubbish, its true to some extent, but main roads (A roads, motorways) do seem to have a lot more on the verges than smaller roads.

Slow.Patrol

4,033 posts

36 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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I have a distant relation who has a chav boyfriend.

He admitted to being done twice for dropping a fag end and also chucking rubbish out of his car.

Our village is OK due to a monthly litter pick by volunteers.

I think the fines need to be higher. £1000 for a first offence, plus costs.

The problem is some health and safety bod has decided that litter picking along the road is too dangerous unless it is coned off.

Physically fit people who have been on benefits for six months should be litter picking as well.

coppice

9,485 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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We have no insuperable H&S issues here (Thirsk ), just hi vis . The local Wombles do a great job - but it's job which shouldn't even be necessary .

Slow.Patrol

4,033 posts

36 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Where I used to live in Essex, there was a roundabout off the A12 that always had queuing traffic. The verge was a carpet of litter.

How hard would it have been to fix a sneaky camera and record the offenders.

P675

689 posts

54 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Near me there's a half mile stretch, often see litter pickers volunteering to clean it up, they always have a few bags, it's unbelievable for a short quiet stretch. Quite often see mcdonalds bags and a full set of cups which has been dumped out a window. Just don't understand it why it's so hard to put it in a bin. If I have any food in my car I wait until I get home and put it in the wheeliebin. If you're on the road for work chances are you're going to stop somewhere with a bin during the course of the day.

Cambs_Stuart

3,442 posts

106 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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Litter is one of those things that just infuriates me. And it's not always the usual suspects. I nearly got in a fight with an couple in their 60s at Padley Gorge after seeing them throw a dog**** bag into a bush.

I travel to Germany, Sweden and Switzerland fairly often and there is no much less litter. Even in industrial areas with loads of graffiti, there is no litter.

blueg33

44,359 posts

246 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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I hate litter and people who litter.

IMO we are releasing prisoners early, they should be used to pick up litter. Get out 1 year early spend 6 months litter picking, 2 years early 12 months litter picking etc

super7

2,180 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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There's over 100,000 immigrants who are sitting around all day with nothing to do..... why not introduce them to the UK workforce and to let them earn their benefits by doing some cleaning up in the town they are being supported in?

Same with Benefit scroungers (no issue with bonafide Benefit recipients who are using the system as a catchnet!), clear up your mental health issues by doing something productive in the fresh air and helping out the immigrants with a clean up.

If your not mobile, and are house bound (unlikely for someone who's just crossed the channel!) then do some WFH service for the community....

Just because your on benefits, does not mean you're entitled to sit around on your arse and do fk all. The rest of aren't!!!!!!!!

swisstoni

21,966 posts

301 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2025
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super7 said:
There's over 100,000 immigrants who are sitting around all day with nothing to do..... why not introduce them to the UK workforce and to let them earn their benefits by doing some cleaning up in the town they are being supported in?

Same with Benefit scroungers (no issue with bonafide Benefit recipients who are using the system as a catchnet!), clear up your mental health issues by doing something productive in the fresh air and helping out the immigrants with a clean up.

If your not mobile, and are house bound (unlikely for someone who's just crossed the channel!) then do some WFH service for the community....

Just because your on benefits, does not mean you're entitled to sit around on your arse and do fk all. The rest of aren't!!!!!!!!
I agree that people who can't work for reasons such as depression, anxiety etc could get a lot out of being out and about doing a simple but rewarding and useful task while meeting other human beings.