1983 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 S

1983 Talbot-Matra Murena 2.2 S

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benjj

6,787 posts

163 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Thanks, that does make me feel better. Much obliged smile

Amateurish

7,732 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Love this car and your collection. I do pass through Temple on occasion so will certainly be on the lookout for any of your exotics. How's the Excel? Thinking of getting one myself. I need four seats.

Mr E

21,614 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I'm not sure I could live with those seats..... smile

r1ch

2,871 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Very cool, i've never seen one of these before. Shame about the Zebra that had to be killed for the seats.

What does it drive like?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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The Murena drives very well indeed. In S spec, it has more raw power than a Europa, and handles in a pleasingly neutral mid engined way, with lots of grip, although it does not grip and corner quite as well as a Europa (few cars, old or new, do). A Murena knocks spots off a Lancia Montecarlo.

My Murena needs attention to its rear suspension, and I might reduce the tyre size on the front wheels. Visibility from the driver's seat is good in all directions. The gearchange is a but playful, but good enough. The ergonomics are mostly OK, but the window button is awkwardly placed at your left elbow, and the stereo is a bit far away when in a normal driving position.

The seats are not as horrid in real life as they look in the photos. They are comfortable, and the fabric is very hard wearing.

The Excel is probably the best car that I own, as it is almost completely original, and is the most practical and usable of my classics. There was a green anniversary edition for sale a few weeks ago. The blue one in Kent is good, but overpriced. Matty has a red one that may well be a good buy. Excels ought to be worth 9 to 12K, but at present 6 to 7 K should get you a good one. Avoid the saggy and tired ones.

rednotdead

1,215 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Always loved these since a blast in one as a 10yr old passenger in the early 80's. My mate's dad had one in pale green, pretty little thing.

5potTurbo

12,520 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Ooh, my neighbour runs a Matra-Simca OC and has 2 of these

VumGarda

4,436 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Very cool, I like this a lot.

I love the Elan pictured in your profile, too.

rm89

348 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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My favourite car on this website by an absolute mile. I'm very, very envious.

Your Excel is my 2nd favourite.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Cheers!

I have a bit of work to do on the Murena . It is mostly sound, but has the usual Achilles heel of the type: rear suspension arms that are starting to succumb to rust. Why Matra did not fit alloy ones is a mystery to me. This should hopefully be the only expensive job for a while, as otherwise its just a case of tidying up, and renewing worn consumable parts.

The Excel is in absolutely spiffy condition, right down to the original Dellorto sticker in the spotless engine bay, and is that rare thing, a reliable Lotus. In its day, it was overshadowed by the Esprit, and outsold by the Porsche 944 (which is inferior, in non turbo guise). Now it is a very neglected and rarely seen type. I like cars that few other people have.

My Elan Plus 2 looks better in photos than it really is, but it is a good if not great example of the type. It may need its water pump re doing soon, which is a pain, as you have to take the front off the engine, but otherwise it is pretty straight.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 17th May 08:26

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Thursday 30th August 2012
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Sacre Bleu!

Suspension replaced, MOT passed, French nuttermobile back on the road! Incroyable!

m8rky

2,090 posts

159 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Love it.I have been fascinated by these since I was about 10 yrs old.A local cornershop stocked majorette toy cars and being french they had amazing suspension.Far superior to Matchbox offerings.
I purchased a yellow Bagheera and it had pride of place amongst the toy car collection and the fascination has continued ever since,just out of interest how many Murena and Bagheeras are left in the UK?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Next up: Vresdestein Hi-Tracs to replace the aged and over large Pirellis (front) and BF Goodriches (rear). I am fitting 185/55 R14s to the front, 195/60 R 14s to the rear. These Dutch (ditch?) tyres are said to be a softish compound, and good for mid engined RWD grippiness.

I am a fan of Mytyres.co.uk. My local tyre bloke quoted me 90 quid a corner, but the tyres are 60 and 40 online (the bigger ones are cheaper than the smaller ones).

Mytyres also delivered new Dunlop SP 9000s in a rare size for my Excel, to Italy while I was on hols there, as my old tyres had passed their life end en route.

Did I post this before?

http://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-development/d...

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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I do like these cars, would prefer it with velour upholstery. smile

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Some had velour with buttons, for the full 80s porno effect.




Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
Some had velour with buttons, for the full 80s porno effect.



9/10 (colour a bit too subtle)
I'd still like one as well as a SUV to go with it

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,113 posts

165 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Breadvan72 said:
The Excel is ... that rare thing, a reliable Lotus.
Has it arrived back from Italy on the back of a flat-bed truck yet? hehe

m8rky

2,090 posts

159 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Haha as if by magic a bit of ebaying for a real one turned up a similar aforementioned Majorette model of a Bagheera,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAJORETTE-FRANCE-VINTAGE...

5potTurbo

12,520 posts

168 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Breadvan: If you need info or access to parts, let me know... I'll ask my friendly neighbour.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 31st August 2012
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Hey, Dr Mike, 103,000 miles without any major breakdown is a bit better than a certain TVR of my acquaintance....

I omitted to mention that my Murena shows a mileage of more than 200,000 (OK, kilometrage).