My RWD Escort RS Cosworth nick named "The Widow Maker"

My RWD Escort RS Cosworth nick named "The Widow Maker"

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MADRod

448 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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rumple said:
How do you do the RWD thing, fit the mechanicals of a RWD sierra??
If he has then it aint going to take Big Power. 9" Motorsport, Supra or Jag diffs are known solutions. The T5 gearbox is chcolate above 450 but a Tremec TKO will cope. Dont start on the mods needed to get grip with big power rwd but a 6 deg beam, coilovers & chassis connectors are a good start.

disco!!!!

716 posts

185 months

Sunday 24th June 2012
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Terminator X said:
rumple said:
How do you do the RWD thing, fit the mechanicals of a RWD sierra??
Interested in this too, they're 4wd as standard aren't they?

TX.
yes they are
the escort cosworth is just a shortened sierra floor pan with a different shell so the sierra stuff is all bolt on

Greg_D

6,542 posts

245 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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What power is it making at the moment, and what are your eventual aims? What mods do you have planned?

mboon

Original Poster:

955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Hi All.

The car has 2wd sierra running gear with a shortend prop. All rebuilt to a safe spec.
The car puts the power down much better in the dry but second is spinning no matter what you do. Its a great drive in the dry though and really pulls hard. I really am changing nothing. Its perfect for what I want. Just going to keep it tidy and made change a couple cosmetic bits to keep it looking nice.

Its not a straight swop though, the prop was shortened and although the sierra and escort floor pan are pretty much the same, the escort is slightly shorter hence the need to shorten the prop. It works so well. This car would be great on a track (in the dry)

y2blade

56,029 posts

214 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Big fan of these.
Following with interest cool


mboon

Original Poster:

955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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MADRod said:
If he has then it aint going to take Big Power. 9" Motorsport, Supra or Jag diffs are known solutions. The T5 gearbox is chcolate above 450 but a Tremec TKO will cope. Dont start on the mods needed to get grip with big power rwd but a 6 deg beam, coilovers & chassis connectors are a good start.
Correct but I dont want big power. Its more than enough for me and it really never gets driven to its max... I think it would be silly to drive a car like this to the max. But it is certainly all I will ever want smile

sturobturbo

5,746 posts

145 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Looks brilliant - a real, realistic, dream car for me.
I think it's time to get myself a 3dr in moonstone before they really ramp up in price.

mboon

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955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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sturobturbo said:
Looks brilliant - a real, realistic, dream car for me.
I think it's time to get myself a 3dr in moonstone before they really ramp up in price.
I did look into them but you have to pay decent money to get a decent one. Anything under 12k and its not worth it unless you get lucky. You cannot get any parts for them now and the front wings are silly money when they come up and they tend to rust on them as well frown

DanSaff

518 posts

165 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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I had one for a few years wink good fun but they don't broadside like a Saff or 3dr they are little bit snappy but the main reason i got rid was I didn't like the attention they get - people staring and all that

Mine had 450bhp 6degree beam quaife box and a gripper diff


mboon

Original Poster:

955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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DanSaff said:
I had one for a few years wink good fun but they don't broadside like a Saff or 3dr they are little bit snappy but the main reason i got rid was I didn't like the attention they get - people staring and all that

Mine had 450bhp 6degree beam quaife box and a gripper diff
Sounds nice that. They do get lots of attention which. I dont mind the good stuff but tow trucks following you home is not a good thing. Sadly these cars are still hot property to steal so have to bolt them down. I have this one fully insured so if it happens it happens. You can only slow them down and not sure I would want it back if some chav got there ass in the drivers seat

mat205125

17,790 posts

212 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Looks like a nice car.

I'm very glad to have ticked the 2wd Sierra and 4x4 Escort Cosworth boxes in my earlier years, and have often wondered about whether I'd enjoy them as much stepping back from more modern M3s

mboon

Original Poster:

955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Hi Mat,
I came out of a M3 Evo Convertible to this one. I did run a E36 3.0 M3 saloon along side my last Escort Cosworth which worked well.

We have a E46 330i Sport now with lots of toys and its a great car.. But no presence, no rawness about it. I get into the Cosworth and its there to do one thing and one thing only. It does not try to hide its noise, its smell, its looks. It says bad ass which for some is not a good thing but I love it.

I love the 90's and late 80's cars. The musci from the 90's as well is great too. Love Prodigy and stuff like that. Chase and Status Blind faith on the radio while driving this car gives me a massive buzz.

Its hardwork to drive, gearbox is old tech, clutch is heavy... Too much turbo lag to talk about but.. and its a big but... it just makes sense. Its got something about it. That old Ford smell of oil and fuel burning away, the sucking noise from the massive air filter and the group b rally car sound of turbo stall/chatter. For me and in my budget, it really is the best car I could put my hands on for me.

An Evo and Scoobie would no doubt run circles around it etc but... how many people look at the Evo like they do with the cosworth. The attention it gets is crazy. I was following a Bright Yellow Ferrari 358 last night and the cars coming the otherway stared more at the cosworth than the Ferrari. I love it, its a boy hood dream to own another one of these and so glad I did it. Its a ford so no doubt it will break but that is all part and parcel of owning them smile

SirSamuelOfBuca

1,353 posts

156 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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mboon said:
Hi Mat,
I came out of a M3 Evo Convertible to this one. I did run a E36 3.0 M3 saloon along side my last Escort Cosworth which worked well.

We have a E46 330i Sport now with lots of toys and its a great car.. But no presence, no rawness about it. I get into the Cosworth and its there to do one thing and one thing only. It does not try to hide its noise, its smell, its looks. It says bad ass which for some is not a good thing but I love it.

I love the 90's and late 80's cars. The musci from the 90's as well is great too. Love Prodigy and stuff like that. Chase and Status Blind faith on the radio while driving this car gives me a massive buzz.

Its hardwork to drive, gearbox is old tech, clutch is heavy... Too much turbo lag to talk about but.. and its a big but... it just makes sense. Its got something about it. That old Ford smell of oil and fuel burning away, the sucking noise from the massive air filter and the group b rally car sound of turbo stall/chatter. For me and in my budget, it really is the best car I could put my hands on for me.

An Evo and Scoobie would no doubt run circles around it etc but... how many people look at the Evo like they do with the cosworth. The attention it gets is crazy. I was following a Bright Yellow Ferrari 358 last night and the cars coming the otherway stared more at the cosworth than the Ferrari. I love it, its a boy hood dream to own another one of these and so glad I did it. Its a ford so no doubt it will break but that is all part and parcel of owning them smile
Yes! Cant wait to upgrade the 5 turb for a cossie smile

mat205125

17,790 posts

212 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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mboon said:
Hi Mat,
I came out of a M3 Evo Convertible to this one. I did run a E36 3.0 M3 saloon along side my last Escort Cosworth which worked well.

We have a E46 330i Sport now with lots of toys and its a great car.. But no presence, no rawness about it. I get into the Cosworth and its there to do one thing and one thing only. It does not try to hide its noise, its smell, its looks. It says bad ass which for some is not a good thing but I love it.

I love the 90's and late 80's cars. The musci from the 90's as well is great too. Love Prodigy and stuff like that. Chase and Status Blind faith on the radio while driving this car gives me a massive buzz.

Its hardwork to drive, gearbox is old tech, clutch is heavy... Too much turbo lag to talk about but.. and its a big but... it just makes sense. Its got something about it. That old Ford smell of oil and fuel burning away, the sucking noise from the massive air filter and the group b rally car sound of turbo stall/chatter. For me and in my budget, it really is the best car I could put my hands on for me.

An Evo and Scoobie would no doubt run circles around it etc but... how many people look at the Evo like they do with the cosworth. The attention it gets is crazy. I was following a Bright Yellow Ferrari 358 last night and the cars coming the otherway stared more at the cosworth than the Ferrari. I love it, its a boy hood dream to own another one of these and so glad I did it. Its a ford so no doubt it will break but that is all part and parcel of owning them smile
yes

Absolutely. Not sure if it's just a UK thing, but the Cosworths have always had a massive attraction and following, without much of the stigma that the japanese cars have.

I can't wait for my Mk2 Escort to be finished, and for it to join my M3 on the driveway as the perfect road and track duo. My engine choice for the Escort is still up in the air, but some excessive Cossie bhp is mightily attractive.

mboon

Original Poster:

955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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mat205125 said:
yes

Absolutely. Not sure if it's just a UK thing, but the Cosworths have always had a massive attraction and following, without much of the stigma that the japanese cars have.

I can't wait for my Mk2 Escort to be finished, and for it to join my M3 on the driveway as the perfect road and track duo. My engine choice for the Escort is still up in the air, but some excessive Cossie bhp is mightily attractive.
I dont think there is anything better than a MK2 Powered with a Cosworth engine. Would love to see that.

They have become a bit more as a modern classic so not got the boy racer tattoo as much now.

mboon

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955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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sturobturbo

5,746 posts

145 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Looks the balls man!!

Oh Behave

337 posts

224 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Still looks fresh after all these years. Do u garage it or keep it on the drive?

mboon

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955 posts

201 months

Monday 25th June 2012
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Oh Behave said:
Still looks fresh after all these years. Do u garage it or keep it on the drive?
Did you own this car?

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th June 2012
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better than the M?