Scratch built GT40 finally running

Scratch built GT40 finally running

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Fastdruid

8,635 posts

152 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Very....for the time.

They even performed crash tests... 41mph for this and while the crash dummy "driver" was hurt there is not a lot of deformation in the tub.



Not a patch on a "modern" car however.

CanAm

9,187 posts

272 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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confucuis said:
How strong are the monocoques on these? I've often wondered how strong the tubs and frames are in single seaters and cars like this when compared to a normal road car!
It's the lack of crumple zones compared to modern production cars that is the problem.

CR6ZZ

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1,313 posts

145 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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The mono is very rigid. Much torsionally stiffer than spaceframe cars of the time.

CanAm said:
It's the lack of crumple zones compared to modern production cars that is the problem.
Agreed. The front and rear subframes do act as crumple zones, but nowhere near to the extent as for modern cars. The central "cell" is very strong, but for any side impact there is the risk of crushing the fuel tanks (bag tanks in originals).

As can be seen in the picture above, there was an issue with fuel fountaining out of the filler caps under impact. This was also occasionally a problem under hard braking in race conditions, especially if the filler cap was not properly fastened (see picture below from '67 Le Mans). Some of the cars were retro fitted with a non return flap to minimise this and, as far as I am aware, many GT40s (originals and replicas) running these days have foam in the tanks, and often, a screw type fuel cap under the pop-up one.


Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Thursday 8th June 2017
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Goodness me what a brilliant project, properly envious of this one! Looking forward to seeing it finished.

CR6ZZ

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1,313 posts

145 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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And we have headers. Hope it all fits...


Dr G

15,169 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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A very pleasing looking web of steel spaghetti - are they going to be coated or wrapped somehow?

CR6ZZ

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145 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Have yet to make that decision. If I stay true to the original, probably just VHT paint, but I am tempted by ceramic coating.

Peanut Gallery

2,426 posts

110 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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Really enjoying the thread, thank you!

That is a lot of heat in a very small amount of space, normally I would go VHT paint, but with that amount of heat in that amount of space I would vote for a ceramic coating. - just my 2p worth!

CanAm

9,187 posts

272 months

Wednesday 28th June 2017
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CR6ZZ said:
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This was also occasionally a problem under hard braking in race conditions, especially if the filler cap was not properly fastened (see picture below from '67 Le Mans). Some of the cars were retro fitted with a non return flap to minimise this and, as far as I am aware, many GT40s (originals and replicas) running these days have foam in the tanks, and often, a screw type fuel cap under the pop-up one.
I remember seeing that at the time. Mike Salmon at the end of the Mulsanne Straight IIRC.

CR6ZZ

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1,313 posts

145 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Some more progress. Passenger door on.



Door hardware on.





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Door cutouts done. This space will be lined to provide some storage.

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and, now that two of the other cars have gone from the workshop there was some space to have a play. Propped the wheels in the arches to see what the finished product might look like (as you do). Not bad.


BertieWooster

3,274 posts

164 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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CR6ZZ said:
and, now that two of the other cars have gone from the workshop there was some space to have a play. Propped the wheels in the arches to see what the finished product might look like (as you do). Not bad.

That looks fantastic.

dannyDC2

7,543 posts

168 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Awesome build! smile

CanAm

9,187 posts

272 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Indeed, that is looking fantastic.
And good to see a less common colour scheme too; I assume it's a homage to the Hill/Muir car rather than an out and out replica (though still spot-on so far!). If you want to see what it really looked like in 1966, check out the Exoto 1/10 model - these are the only ones I've come across that are perfectly period correct to the tiniest detail. I have a lovely print of the McLaren/Amon car in the 1966 Le Mans race; unfortunately the artist used pictures of the Ford Motor Company car which had been restored with many incorrect details. I believe this has now been restored to its correct original form, including a blue monocoque like your car.

CR6ZZ

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1,313 posts

145 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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Dash and demister grille painted and back in. Connecting the instruments and switch-gear up is going to be fun...




RC1807

12,526 posts

168 months

Sunday 30th July 2017
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That colour.
Those wheels.
Avon tyres.
Even on stands in a workshop = cloud9

Effing awesome, sir!

Jellyfish

52 posts

132 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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What a beautiful design this was. Thank you Mr Ferrari for not letting Mr Ford buy your company!

CR6ZZ

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1,313 posts

145 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Been busy lately, so not much progress. However, a few tiny steps forward...

Instruments, fuse boxes and switch gear installed in dash.



Fuel tank selector valve trial fitted. I think I will rotate it 45˚ anticlockwise before finalising.



Front brake ducts installed.


Mike-tf3n0

571 posts

82 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Just discovered this thread, amazing - well done that man! Proper cross over exhaust, has it got a flat plane crank too? If so it will sound epic. Years ago we used to look after a GT40 and I remember problems with corrosion between the fuel tanks and the monocoque, weren't the originals rubber bag tanks and condensation used to build up inside the sill? IIRC we fabricated aluminium tanks which slid in from the front, wrapped in foam to prevent electrolytic reaction. Great cars!!!

Nunga

332 posts

108 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Such a great-looking car! The colour and wheels are perfect. It's been an impressive build thus far.

CR6ZZ

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Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Mike-tf3n0 said:
Just discovered this thread, amazing - well done that man! Proper cross over exhaust, has it got a flat plane crank too? If so it will sound epic. Years ago we used to look after a GT40 and I remember problems with corrosion between the fuel tanks and the monocoque, weren't the originals rubber bag tanks and condensation used to build up inside the sill? IIRC we fabricated aluminium tanks which slid in from the front, wrapped in foam to prevent electrolytic reaction. Great cars!!!
Yes - exactly right. This mono is zinc plated to try to minimise corrosion, plus I am going the aluminium tank route as you describe.