My 205 4X4 Cosworth

My 205 4X4 Cosworth

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hooneybadger

5 posts

24 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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This is awesome! Any videos of it in action?

skatty

473 posts

161 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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skatty

473 posts

161 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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DanG355

359 posts

172 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Well done skatty - you can really see the angle on the 911 now the photo is upright. That's what you call sideways! No doubt helped by the weight in the back.

I seem to remember a Dimma Clio with a 4x4 Cosworth conversion as well - anyone know if that car is still going?

Great thread.

Caddyshack

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3,757 posts

177 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Thanks Skatty.

The sideways on the 911 was a lift on the way in and then nailing it...

The Clio Dimma 4x4 is still about I think. There is a nice 106 too that I know of. I very nearly bought a Clio Williams with Dimma kit but the paint and body were poor and I didn’t want another resto. (I am rebuilding a 944 with 1.8t 20v conversion too.

Panjy

162 posts

117 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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I love projects like this, looks like you really are creating a monster smile

Have you had it weighed yet, from your spec it sounds like you should be getting it down towards the 1000kg mark?

Augustus Windsock

2,749 posts

126 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Great build and great thread!
If I had a cap I’d be doffing it to you now!
Not sure if anyone on here remembers, or even perhaps knows, but waaaay back a firm at Boughton (Notts) built the first car with Sapphire 4x4 running gear. I believe they are or were (?) DJMotorsport
It was built into a Ford Ka with wonderfully bloated wheel arches and you could actually see the diff under the rear when behind it.
The Ka was in almost primer grey and I saw it not that long ago so I’m presuming it’s still around.
It’s one of those builds that I’m sure the (original?) owner might have some great words of wisdom for anyone else.
As for this car, I can’t imagine how mental it will be when the afterburners are lit, I can imagine the OP grinning and quoting ‘Top Gun’; “I feel the need, the neeeed for speeeeeeeeed....!”
Bravo sir, bravo!

Fastdruid

7,372 posts

123 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Augustus Windsock said:
Not sure if anyone on here remembers, or even perhaps knows, but waaaay back a firm at Boughton (Notts) built the first car with Sapphire 4x4 running gear. I believe they are or were (?) DJMotorsport
It was built into a Ford Ka with wonderfully bloated wheel arches and you could actually see the diff under the rear when behind it.
That's is impressive....but ugly, it looks hideous. The 205 otoh is cloud9
https://www.djm-motorsport.co.uk/Ford_KA_Project.h...

If you're talking Cosworth conversions I very much prefer the Puma one. https://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=28350


Caddyshack

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3,757 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Panjy said:
I love projects like this, looks like you really are creating a monster smile

Have you had it weighed yet, from your spec it sounds like you should be getting it down towards the 1000kg mark?
I think it will be just below 1000kg.

My standard 1.9 was around 870 iirc, that had back seats, 27 kg doors, 22kg bootlid and 17kg bonnet, on the Cossied pug these are all carbon composite. The battery is 10kg lighter too. Seats are around 10kg less plus no trim. Yes the 4x4 drive train and engine weigh more but the suspension components are much lighter due to all the billet and t45.

If I can come in at 1000kg or less I will be very happy

Augustus Windsock

2,749 posts

126 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Fastdruid said:
Augustus Windsock said:
Not sure if anyone on here remembers, or even perhaps knows, but waaaay back a firm at Boughton (Notts) built the first car with Sapphire 4x4 running gear. I believe they are or were (?) DJMotorsport
It was built into a Ford Ka with wonderfully bloated wheel arches and you could actually see the diff under the rear when behind it.
That's is impressive....but ugly, it looks hideous. The 205 otoh is cloud9
https://www.djm-motorsport.co.uk/Ford_KA_Project.h...

If you're talking Cosworth conversions I very much prefer the Puma one. https://www.projectpuma.com/viewtopic.php?t=28350
Can’t say I’ve seen that post before about the Ka but he first one was built without a cage in it
The wheels were good coloured (speedlines?) and it was a flat grey colour
One owner lived on Clilpstone Road West in Mansfield if any readers remember it or know if it’s still about
As an aside, I was wondering what the insurance would be on a modified 205 like this?
I would ask the OP but that’s a bit rude. And private !

Caddyshack

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3,757 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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I pay £500 per yr as a 46 yr old, all mods noted and high value...fully comp.

Caddyshack

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3,757 posts

177 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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hooneybadger said:
This is awesome! Any videos of it in action?
No videos yet but will do some when it is back on its wheels.

Mr Tidy

15,672 posts

98 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Wow - your car is just amazing OP. thumbup

And it's great to see that you still have it 6 years on, and are still fettling and upgrading it!

tommy1973s

899 posts

142 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Caddyshack said:
I had the poster of this actual car on my wall as a late teenager. I was looking for parts for my 1.9 gti on pistonheads sale section and noticed it for sale, when I saw that it was under 5 miles away I jumped in the car and handed the owner (Matt) the money and took it home....the wife was not as excited as me.



The pic above is on the old owners drive when I bought it. All 4 previous owners have been in touch and 2 lost their licences in it.
Fantastic work; congrats for sticking with it.

Could something similar be made to work as a 100% sleeper, e.g., standard-size 15" GTi rims and no flared arches?


Edited by tommy1973s on Sunday 23 February 14:48

Rod Perolli

1 posts

21 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Long time lurker here.

Very impressive build and great to see such a highly modifed machine having a second lease on life after all these years since being created. From experience, the "life span" on this kind of build is quite shorter...

Any plans to actually race it? Its spec almost screams Hillclimb Race Car to me... wink

Adrian E

3,026 posts

147 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Epic car - read through after the re-link from the main site smile

Was there a specific change in plans, after the leather seat upholstering and repaint featured on here, that have resulted in it being stripped back and all the additional cage and suspension work being started?

Much prefer the new rear bumper and exhaust treatment smile

oobster

6,558 posts

182 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Caddyshack said:
hooneybadger said:
This is awesome! Any videos of it in action?
No videos yet but will do some when it is back on its wheels.
Great car, but yesterday 300bhp/ton posted a link to a youtube video of his own car and the mods removed it the link.

Caddyshack

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3,757 posts

177 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Thanks all.

You couldn’t run the 4x4 under a standard shell to make a sleeper as the track is much wider than a 205, I had to go et 25/28 just to keep the wheels in the arches.

I do plan to track day it, some 1/4 mile stuff and some hill climbs.

I originally wanted to try and make it a daily driver with comfy seats, carpet etc...but the shell needed more strength and the suspension needed improving so I thought I may as well go the whole hog and make it a stripped out go machine.

grumpy52

4,789 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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I have a dim memory of something very similar in the British rally championship back in the 90s . It was a bit of a gaint killer and on certain events it was untouchable.

Olivera

4,915 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Curious, why didn't you just start with a Ford Cosworth of some kind, given that's the basis of the floorpan and running gear?