605bhp Per Ton 200SX Powered Kitcar
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dave2007bc said:
I'm not sure yet. I've tried to keep a running total and think I'm at around 30-35kg off. The side panels (see this current post) took off nearly 9kg alone!
That is very good, I still need to get round to fitting my carbon bits to mine. It looks like you are running 15s, you thought about going to 13s to save a bit more weight or they not fit over the brakes on yours?
I do run 15" wheels, originally this was because I had a supplier of cheap 888s but this has since dried up.
I do need the 15s to get over my front brakes (288mm). I could get smaller discs and go to 13s but even if I changed to forged/CXR wheels I'd only save about 1.1kg per corner. The wheels alone would stand me at about £1k. Whilst that is all unsprung weight, it's a lot of cost for 4kg of saving.
Over Winter I'm sending my one piece vented discs to Hi-apex to be converted into bells/rotors which should save me at least 2.5kg on each corner and cost <£400
I do need the 15s to get over my front brakes (288mm). I could get smaller discs and go to 13s but even if I changed to forged/CXR wheels I'd only save about 1.1kg per corner. The wheels alone would stand me at about £1k. Whilst that is all unsprung weight, it's a lot of cost for 4kg of saving.
Over Winter I'm sending my one piece vented discs to Hi-apex to be converted into bells/rotors which should save me at least 2.5kg on each corner and cost <£400
The car made it's trip the most pointless show ever. It was a local Gala/Country Fair that had a stand of Classic and Sportscars. The organisers for some reason stuck the cars in the corner of the field miles away from footfall and the public.
The outcome of that meant I was home by 1pm so decided to tear the car apart ready for the bodyshop.
Scuttle and bonnet vents off
Rear panel removed (this took so long!)
Panels loaded into the daily for paint. Holes to fill all marked up
Time to paint the cage whilst I've no panels to worry about. Nothing lairy, but I am swopping from matt black to a gloss black to tie in with the new paint and the carbon side panels.
...and this is just one of the potential new additions. A big rear wing. Currently just thrown on the cage as a test-fit but the end-game is to have custom CNC brackets off the rear bars. I have a friend in SA that competes in their TimeAttack and the rear wing made a big difference to his traction in high-speed corners; something I really struggle with.
The Jury is still out on whether or not it will actually go on. But my other on-going project is a big front spoiler/splitter to match from a Formula 3 car. As with the rear one; I'm still not 100% on how I'll progress with this yet.
The outcome of that meant I was home by 1pm so decided to tear the car apart ready for the bodyshop.
Scuttle and bonnet vents off
Rear panel removed (this took so long!)
Panels loaded into the daily for paint. Holes to fill all marked up
Time to paint the cage whilst I've no panels to worry about. Nothing lairy, but I am swopping from matt black to a gloss black to tie in with the new paint and the carbon side panels.
...and this is just one of the potential new additions. A big rear wing. Currently just thrown on the cage as a test-fit but the end-game is to have custom CNC brackets off the rear bars. I have a friend in SA that competes in their TimeAttack and the rear wing made a big difference to his traction in high-speed corners; something I really struggle with.
The Jury is still out on whether or not it will actually go on. But my other on-going project is a big front spoiler/splitter to match from a Formula 3 car. As with the rear one; I'm still not 100% on how I'll progress with this yet.
irvine1 said:
This build is totally what pistonheads is about...
For even more weight reduction you should consider titanium boost pipe work and a titanium exhaust.
The titanium will change the exhaust tone and make it almost scream when on boost.
Just YouTube titanium exhaust on gtr's
No idea what you mean For even more weight reduction you should consider titanium boost pipe work and a titanium exhaust.
The titanium will change the exhaust tone and make it almost scream when on boost.
Just YouTube titanium exhaust on gtr's
Didn't realise you were on here Dave, car is coming along a treat
ECG1000 said:
Seriously cool!
I think you live fairly near me - I'll make sure I don't attempt a traffic light Gran Prix with my mere 360 per tonne...
Where about are you?I think you live fairly near me - I'll make sure I don't attempt a traffic light Gran Prix with my mere 360 per tonne...
Mr MXT said:
Do you ever run out into the peaks? I'd be keen on that (Duratec'd Westfield).
Sometimes - I'm minutes from Holme Moss so can be in 'Derbyshire' very quickly! I've been on a few runs with the WSCC but then got banned from their website because I fell out with the boss on there LOL.Mr MXT said:
Watched that Monky London video, would be nice if he let you finish a sentence!!
That's the first thing one of my friends send when he watched it. I didn't realise how much he did it until I watched it back. It was bit disappointing really as I was hoping to try and make the video almost educational to people that know nothing about kit-cars; sadly I don't think that came across.irvine1 said:
This build is totally what pistonheads is about...
For even more weight reduction you should consider titanium boost pipe work and a titanium exhaust.
The titanium will change the exhaust tone and make it almost scream when on boost.
Just YouTube titanium exhaust on gtr's
Thankyou Irvine.For even more weight reduction you should consider titanium boost pipe work and a titanium exhaust.
The titanium will change the exhaust tone and make it almost scream when on boost.
Just YouTube titanium exhaust on gtr's
I didn't realise Titanium was that much lighter than stainless. In hindsight I should have had my hard-pipes made out of aluminium instead of stainless but it's done now. Titanium is obviously a lot more expensive than stainless though so it will have to be added to the list of other things to swop first.
I've finally managed to get my hands on some Tillet Carbon Fibre seats, these should hopefully saved me another 3-4kg. I've also just replaced the MOMO Caterham steering wheel for a smaller one; a small 500g saving but every little helps.
Disappointingly, the body panels are still not back from the bodyshop. Everytime I have something painted for a car I always get fkd about by the company doing it - if I had the patience to do my own painting then I wouldn't have to rely on other people.
This weeks update -
The roll cage is all finished in gloss black
I'm never far from 'For Sale' boards on a variety of forums.
Last week I found a reasonably priced steering wheel to replace the Momo Caterham one that I already had.
The old steering wheel was 260mm whilst the new one is 240mm, so a fair bit smaller. (and crucially lighter, ha)
and all fitted into the shell of my car
Good news from the bodyshop - the panels are all prepped and ready for paint -
Now a step-back in time.
This is the development of my front 'aero' - still very much a WIP. Still very much a learning curve for me. Whether or not it will work, make me faster or slower, or just fall off is all up in the air. It may not even make it onto the car, we will see.
No idea where the front spoiler is from; I suspect some entry level 'formula' racing? Jazzy graphics that's for sure.
Removing the graphics and marking it up
VERY rough idea for a bracket
Original mounting brackets on the wing removed and new ones made. I just needed to make some holes for them
Something like that -
New bracket plates mounted. Sikaflex always comes in handy. Along with some fixings underneath that have been ground off. They aren't going anywhere!
That's as far as that's got at the moment.
Whilst waiting for my body panels to come back I thought I'd give the car a check over. Around a month ago I smashed the sump pan on a spirited drive over Holme Moss. I knew I'd hit the floor but, as it wasn't leaking I didn't really worry about it.
On jacking up the car the sump had clearly taken a big hit -
Not ideal - decided it best to take the sump off and find a replacement.
On taking the sump off I found -
Urgh.
Doesn't look better on your finger either!
Best take a look at the bearings then -
Clearly worn but not that bad. Original as they have a 1989 date-stamp on them!
I've examined some of the other oil-ways, checked the filter etc and there is no other gunk or mess anywhere. I'm fairly convinced (or should that be have convinced myself) that the gunk and mess was in the sump was all dislodged when I smashed it. I also noticed the pickup mesh was damaged and dented so was obviously resting on the base of the sump itself.
I've ordered some replacement bearings (Clevite) and will of course flush out the engine, change the filter and replace all the necessary gaskets. I'm not one to spend money un-necessarily being a Yorkshireman and I'd love an excuse to actually rip it out and rebuild it with uprated parts but until it ACTUALLY breaks SWMBO says that's not an option
The roll cage is all finished in gloss black
I'm never far from 'For Sale' boards on a variety of forums.
Last week I found a reasonably priced steering wheel to replace the Momo Caterham one that I already had.
The old steering wheel was 260mm whilst the new one is 240mm, so a fair bit smaller. (and crucially lighter, ha)
and all fitted into the shell of my car
Good news from the bodyshop - the panels are all prepped and ready for paint -
Now a step-back in time.
This is the development of my front 'aero' - still very much a WIP. Still very much a learning curve for me. Whether or not it will work, make me faster or slower, or just fall off is all up in the air. It may not even make it onto the car, we will see.
No idea where the front spoiler is from; I suspect some entry level 'formula' racing? Jazzy graphics that's for sure.
Removing the graphics and marking it up
VERY rough idea for a bracket
Original mounting brackets on the wing removed and new ones made. I just needed to make some holes for them
Something like that -
New bracket plates mounted. Sikaflex always comes in handy. Along with some fixings underneath that have been ground off. They aren't going anywhere!
That's as far as that's got at the moment.
Whilst waiting for my body panels to come back I thought I'd give the car a check over. Around a month ago I smashed the sump pan on a spirited drive over Holme Moss. I knew I'd hit the floor but, as it wasn't leaking I didn't really worry about it.
On jacking up the car the sump had clearly taken a big hit -
Not ideal - decided it best to take the sump off and find a replacement.
On taking the sump off I found -
Urgh.
Doesn't look better on your finger either!
Best take a look at the bearings then -
Clearly worn but not that bad. Original as they have a 1989 date-stamp on them!
I've examined some of the other oil-ways, checked the filter etc and there is no other gunk or mess anywhere. I'm fairly convinced (or should that be have convinced myself) that the gunk and mess was in the sump was all dislodged when I smashed it. I also noticed the pickup mesh was damaged and dented so was obviously resting on the base of the sump itself.
I've ordered some replacement bearings (Clevite) and will of course flush out the engine, change the filter and replace all the necessary gaskets. I'm not one to spend money un-necessarily being a Yorkshireman and I'd love an excuse to actually rip it out and rebuild it with uprated parts but until it ACTUALLY breaks SWMBO says that's not an option
The bits are back from the bodyshop
So happy.
The colour is Yas Marina Blue (New m3/m4 colour)- it changes colour in every photo I take. It's such a great colour.
Just after the spraying
Collected in the daily
Rear panel bonded on and held with multiple 'clamps' (looks like the car has a nappy on!)
Scoop going back in the bonnet. Mesh to follow on the holes at the back
Scuttle panel back on
Carbon fibre aero-screen back on
Nose-cone in the boot of the daily to fit the NACA duct
Bonnet and nose-cone offered up on the car (see what I mean about the colour changing!)
Hoping to finish off building it all back up tomorrow, then it's just the engine I need to worry about it.
So happy.
The colour is Yas Marina Blue (New m3/m4 colour)- it changes colour in every photo I take. It's such a great colour.
Just after the spraying
Collected in the daily
Rear panel bonded on and held with multiple 'clamps' (looks like the car has a nappy on!)
Scoop going back in the bonnet. Mesh to follow on the holes at the back
Scuttle panel back on
Carbon fibre aero-screen back on
Nose-cone in the boot of the daily to fit the NACA duct
Bonnet and nose-cone offered up on the car (see what I mean about the colour changing!)
Hoping to finish off building it all back up tomorrow, then it's just the engine I need to worry about it.
Not actually that you'd want a NACA duct there anyway.Wing on. Car built Up. Engine back together.
More than a little bit slippy on Sunday, still lots of fun.
The front f1-esqur wing isn't finished but at least it's all back together for the moment.
With the weight savings over the last 6 months I should hopefully be creeping over 480bhp/ton now.
I'd love to get over 500bhp/ton but that would require significant investment in the engine which I just can't warrant at the moment.
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I'm hoping to fit a proper (quaife) LSD before the season starts so it's probably not going to be back together very long, such is kitcar ownership.
As always,more photos and videos on Instagram @locost_turbo
More than a little bit slippy on Sunday, still lots of fun.
The front f1-esqur wing isn't finished but at least it's all back together for the moment.
With the weight savings over the last 6 months I should hopefully be creeping over 480bhp/ton now.
I'd love to get over 500bhp/ton but that would require significant investment in the engine which I just can't warrant at the moment.
I'm hoping to fit a proper (quaife) LSD before the season starts so it's probably not going to be back together very long, such is kitcar ownership.
As always,more photos and videos on Instagram @locost_turbo
Just read this start to finish and cant believe how awesome this thing is. I found myself browsing ebay before finding this thread looking at atom based kits and unfinished projects. After seeing this I am even more convinced i need to own something like this. I have had a few tracks toys but never anything like this. I was wondering if you knew what kind of out lay you had initially and where this stands you at now
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