Ferrari F430 Spider

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Butter Face

30,192 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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That’s lovely. Looks super expensive!!

Julian Thompson

2,490 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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Looks amazing Mark! Shall you keep this car for good?

markiii

3,565 posts

193 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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any compromise on luggage space with that new bonnet?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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What’s the functionality of those exits on the nose? Do they work?

Regardless, it’s such an epic build this car-would be great if a video could be made on it-a jay leno’s Garage type feature would be absolutely fantastic.

Max M4X WW

4,789 posts

181 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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Stunning ideas, execution and installation as always!

LaurasOtherHalf said:
Regardless, it’s such an epic build this car-would be great if a video could be made on it-a jay leno’s Garage type feature would be absolutely fantastic.
Be interesting to see, but who would you get to do it wobble some of the YouTubers are dubious at best!

Church of Noise

1,453 posts

236 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
What’s the functionality of those exits on the nose? Do they work?

Regardless, it’s such an epic build this car-would be great if a video could be made on it-a jay leno’s Garage type feature would be absolutely fantastic.
I seem to remember that, earlier on in the thread, mwstewart indicated they wanted the bonnet to look somewhat like that of an F50.

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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markiii said:
any compromise on luggage space with that new bonnet?
Think you got the wrong thread here :-)

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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markiii said:
any compromise on luggage space with that new bonnet?
I was thinking more about the waterproofing issue...

Davie_GLA

6,521 posts

198 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Brilliant update.

Apologies if I missed it, but you mentioned moving away from cars. What’s next?

mwstewart

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7,554 posts

187 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Butter Face said:
That’s lovely. Looks super expensive!!
Julian Thompson said:
Looks amazing Mark! Shall you keep this car for good?
Thank you. This and the Fiesta are keepers.

markiii said:
any compromise on luggage space with that new bonnet?
Yes, but for a supercar these have a surprising amount of space top begin with.

LaurasOtherHalf said:
What’s the functionality of those exits on the nose? Do they work?

Regardless, it’s such an epic build this car-would be great if a video could be made on it-a jay leno’s Garage type feature would be absolutely fantastic.
I wrote about that earlier in the thread: I am seeking some wind tunnel testing and consultation time to make them work effectively.

Max M4X WW said:
Stunning ideas, execution and installation as always!
Cheers Max.

Davie_GLA said:
Brilliant update.

Apologies if I missed it, but you mentioned moving away from cars. What’s next?
Thank you. Boats. I will finish the Fiesta in parallel.

seiben

2,343 posts

133 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Please can you document your boaty adventures here? I know absolutely nothing about them, but an mwstewart thread feels like an excellent opportunity to learn smile

TR4man

5,207 posts

173 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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seiben said:
Please can you document your boaty adventures here? I know absolutely nothing about them, but an mwstewart thread feels like an excellent opportunity to learn smile
+2 yes please.

mwstewart

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7,554 posts

187 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Sure smile

Nunga

332 posts

107 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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I saw the cheeky little bum of a TiAg E46 M3 in the background of the photo showing new tyres; had that not sold? Surely demand for it would be through the roof now!

mwstewart

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7,554 posts

187 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Nunga said:
I saw the cheeky little bum of a TiAg E46 M3 in the background of the photo showing new tyres; had that not sold? Surely demand for it would be through the roof now!
That was collected by it's new owner in July or August and was on the PH stand at Silverstone Classic.

Nunga

332 posts

107 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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Thanks for the info, Mark. A little piece of me probably died after hearing that, on account of the fact it was the first thread I read on PH and you actually replied to my emails about E46s!

Seems appropriate to comment on the latest of the F430; mental. Must be tough deciding what best showcases your talent; Fezza or Fiesta?

mwstewart

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7,554 posts

187 months

Sunday 18th October 2020
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Like many of us plans for this year were laid to waste. I was rather fortunate with how things panned out but I was away from anything car related for most of the year. Now I'm back I will start to work my way through a list of niggles on the 430.

Door Card Resonance
This one is likely self-inflicted because I chose to omit the mass dampers in each panel in order to save 1KG. I have resonance/vibration in the left door card at certain volumes/frequencies.

The Scuderia door panels are very easy to remove requiring only five minutes per side. I tracked down the vibration to a couple of contact points around the inner handle.


I rebuilt the panels using felt and cloth tape. My hole punch pliers came in useful to create holes for the fastenings.



Problem solved.

Ride Height
My car bottoms out too much and scrapes on inclines so I'm going to raise the height by 6mm. The standard set up data is below:

Ferrari said:
Ferrari F430 Scuderia
FRONT SET-UP DATA

Vehicle Height 114+- 5MM
Wheel Camber -1.5Deg +- 0.15Deg
Caster (fixed) 5.5Deg +- 0.15Deg

REAR SET –UP DATA
Vehicle height 136+- 5MM
Wheel camber -2Deg+- 0.15Deg

TOE-IN
ON WHEEL TOTAL

Front: 1.25 +- 0.25MM TO CLOSE 2.5+- 0.5MM TO CLOSE (0.31 to 0.375 degrees total toe-in)

Rear: 2+- 0.25 MM TO CLOSE 4+- 0.5 MM TO CLOSE (0.5 to 0.56 degrees total toe-in)

RIDE HEIGHT
430 Scuderia: F:114mm, R:136mm
F430 (Italy Version): F:129mm, R:151mm
Ride height is measured at the following points on the chassis:

Not my image

I used a bore gauge to measure and some masking tape on the body to record the measurements:


I was quite surprised to find the accuracy of adjustment on my car, but then most parts that could contribute to discrepancies are either new or in good condition. Also, the Scuderia uses derlin inserts in the upper and lower spring perches to improve consistency; over time the rubber used on the F430 compresses and perishes.

LF 116 | 115 RF
LR 141 | 140 RR

Next step is adjustment.

RumbleOfThunder

3,546 posts

202 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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Good to see a genuine update!

mwstewart

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7,554 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Capristo Exhaust Mount
Several lock nuts which secured the Capristo exhaust mounts had worked loose and unfortunately the springs found their way out of the undertray never to be seen again. I got in contact with the Capristo UK distributor Scuderia Car Parts and to the absolute credit of them and Capristo UK a new set was supplied FoC. They retail at £400.


This time around I fitted my own locking nuts on top of those supplied with the kit. New lithium grease applied to the slide area.


Lexan Engine Lid Window
Unlike its Berlinetta counterpart the 16M did not benefit from the weight saving qualities of Lexan for the engine lid window. I had assumed that the reason was one of heat rather than cost saving due to increased proximity between window and engine/exhaust on the Spider.

Last year I picked up some temp strips and applied them around the periphery of the existing window and elsewhere in the engine bay in order to see if Lexan was an option; its upper working temperature range falling between 115 and 130 degrees C.


All areas are well within range so I can move forward and commission a Lexan replica of the OEM glass window.

markiii

3,565 posts

193 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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how much do you reckon that will save?