Impulse buy: Peugeot 205 GTi 16v

Impulse buy: Peugeot 205 GTi 16v

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gretsch-drummer

622 posts

157 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Would you be able to do me and my mate (We're currently in the middle of his 205 Mi16 conversion) a HUUGE favour and sketch out the cooling system hose route? And also where your brake servo vacuum hose connects to?

Cracking car you have there.

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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gretsch-drummer said:
Would you be able to do me and my mate (We're currently in the middle of his 205 Mi16 conversion) a HUUGE favour and sketch out the cooling system hose route? And also where your brake servo vacuum hose connects to?

Cracking car you have there.
Yes of course, I'll try and sort a sketch over the weekend.

For the brake servo I have two vacuum pipes coming from the manifold, into a t piece and then into the servo. You can see them if you look at one of the previous engine bay pics.

gretsch-drummer

622 posts

157 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Awesome. Would help a lot. Just needs plumbing up then it's pretty much ready for its first start.

In its current state (red inserts now fitted):




Simes205

4,539 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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There's a plumbing guide on 205gtidrivers.
I've got the same engine but I've removed a lot of the additional pipe work as it's not needed.
Mines also on bodies.

Simes205

4,539 posts

228 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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CarlosV8 said:
Been fairly quiet on the 205 front recently. Had an enjoyable run out to Goodwood back in November.



Got lots of positive comments which is always nice to hear! November and December became quite busy so the 205 stayed tucked up in the garage. Decided to try and put some miles on her over Christmas though, but that wasn't to be as I discovered a nice big puddle of coolant under the car. 3 months after I'd (finally) finished over-hauling the cooling system...

The leak was quickly tracked down to the oil/coolant heat exchanger bolted to the block. Looks like the metal had fatigued and started weeping coolant - the combination of wiggling pipes whilst I had the rad out plus being used as a daily driver for a week probably finished it off. Didn't fancy paying the £300 from Peugeot, so I went for the £20 2nd hand option from a GTI6 with a £5 seal from Peugeot instead. Once again the front of the car was removed and the offending part removed:



All back together tonight - as you can see it also doubles up as the oil filter housing:


Just need a couple of new hose clips to button it all up and then back on the road this weekend hopefully.

In other news I finally got fed up with my a broken knob (well 3 of them actually):



Got myself a re-production gear knob for my birthday. They're not quite factory finish, but after breaking 3 original versions due to their brittle-ness I thought I'd give one a try. Pretty pleased with it considering it's reasonable price!

And finally, I've treated the car to a little spares package, in the shape of this bad ass little thing:



A 1993 205 Automatic. It's a bit rough round the edges, but most importantly it's got the raised bonnet bulge (needed for clearance on the Auto). This will provide some much needed clearance for my throttle bodies and will replace my slightly bent bonnet (after sitting on the aforementioned TBs for many years). The car will also provide a load of extra spares before being sent off to the scrapyard in the sky. But if anyone else wants something off the car please shout (or even the whole car!!).

Ah we wondered who it belonged to.
Mine was out on the track.
Nice car.

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Time for an update!

The blue 205 has now moved on the scrap yard in the sky, but has nicely topped up my spare stash in the garage. The most important item was the bonnet. As mentioned previously it should give me the clearance I need for the throttle bodies. Hopefully the comparison below shows why:



The underside diagonal support is what fowls the TB filter, so hopefully the Auto bonnet (bottom) will address this. Just need to get it sprayed and fitted.

The final piece of tidying up the outside is the wheels. I've never like the paint on the current wheels and they're also mismatched versions of the same Speedline GTi wheel. So I've acquired a matching set of the lighter Italian Speedlines (same style still) which will be refurb'd and fitted with new tyres. I'm still trying to decide on colour but current thought is standard silver.

Had another slight change to the remote locking too. Previously I had fitted a 405 receiver and key which worked fine. But a friend who is well versed in electronics has set up a little business recoding these old French systems. Turns out the 405 receiver is directional whereas the original from the 205 isn't (ie will recognise the key signal from any direction). So he managed to recode the 205 receiver to the 405 key and I now have a much improved system:



A quick test revealed that the key works from slightly further away and better as you approach the car from the front.

Also decided to fix a broken ciggy lighter with a slightly more modern alternative:



2 USB sockets and a handy voltmeter to boot. But can be nicely hidden away when not in use.

So not much ticked off the To Do list, but the car is running great, with about 400 miles put on the old girl in the last few weeks. And hopefully some more interesting posts to come over the next few months!!

Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:27

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Decided on a colour...


Back to the original silver! Picking them up next weekend, then need to fit these:


Uniroyal Rainsport 3s. Hopefully these will offer me a bit more grip in the wet, which is when the 200bhp in this (old) FWD chassis becomes problematic wink

Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:28


Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:29

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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New wheels, new tyres and new centre caps:


Really pleased I went with the silver wheels in the end cool

Unfortunately I couldn't take advantage of the nice evening and go for a drive as once again I have puddle of fluid on the driveway...


With oil and coolant previously deposited it was now time for petrol. Quickly tracked down the issue to the return line from the fuel rail which was leaking under pressure. Lucky I just reversed the car out the garage and turned the engine off, I could have nipped out for drive with fuel peeing out everywhere! Worryingly, when I took the hose off it doesn't appear to be reinforced fuel injection hose:


Time to replace all of that then. Could have been a bit of a disaster!

Edited by CarlosV8 on Tuesday 25th July 20:31

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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Nice and clean looking 205 you've got there.

I think it looks spot on with the original coloured wheels and those tyres. Sits very nice.

Love the colour of the car as well.

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Thanks DoubleTime. Standard silver was definitely the right choice for the wheels!

Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles mad

Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:



No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.

Edited by CarlosV8 on Friday 6th April 22:09


Edited by CarlosV8 on Friday 6th April 22:10

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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CarlosV8 said:
Thanks DoubleTime. Standard silver was definitely the right choice for the wheels!

Hopefully I've now updated all photos on the thread after the Photobucket shambles mad

Fuel hoses have now all been swapped out:



No more risk of spontaneous combustion! Also fitted all new hose clips and a new fuel filter whilst I was there.
NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Carl.....


That's the hoses I've had all the problems with frown

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Dagnabbit! I'd read everything you'd posted about the issue but it was so long ago I didn't even consider when I ordered the hose a few weeks back.

What are you using now? I will keep an eye on it and order another length.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Gates Barricade R14 at the moment. Continental/Goodyear R9 stuff seems unaffected too.

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Now fitted with Gates Barricade fuel injection hose....

20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr

Cheers for the heads up Kitch!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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Haha. Nice little twist and turn to the story.

Definitely better off safe than sorry with the hose.

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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CarlosV8 said:
Now fitted with Gates Barricade fuel injection hose....

20170802_191401 by CarlosV8, on Flickr

Cheers for the heads up Kitch!

CarlosV8

Original Poster:

765 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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So, there was one fuel hose I didn't replace last year. It looked ok so I originally left it, but in the end decided to change it and be safe.

The reason why I wasn't going to renew it is because it looked a PITA to get to. It runs from the fuel pressure regulator at the front of the engine to the tank return pipe on the bulkhead. At the end of last summer I started the job and it became apparent the brake servo would need to come out. And to get that out the engine needed to be dropped. To be honest, I ran out of time and motivation and it's sat in bits all winter. Shame on me!!

With a bit if free time on my hands this week, I thought I better finally crack on. With the top engine mount removed there was just about enough room to get the brake servo out. I could then finally get to the offending pipe and replace it. This was the difficult end of the pipe:
2018-04-06_10-14-26 by CarlosV8, on Flickr
You can just see the hose clip behind the main feed pipe.
Thought I'd better test the fuel pipe connections before putting it back together:
https://youtu.be/SrreFq_72IE
IT'S ALIVE!!
And no fuel leaks. The engine is now back on it's mounts, and servo bolted back it. Just need to bleed the brakes to finish off.

Unfortunately the MOT has now lapsed, so I'll get a few other jobs done and will book it in shortly. Watch this space!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Wow, that was tight! Glad you have it back in one piece. I'd love to drive one of these 16 Valvers, and I wonder how my older Golf mk1 16v would hold up against it... while it's light I think mine is a bit porkier than your Pug!

CarlosV8

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765 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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If you're ever anywhere near the south coast give us a shout and we'll do a comparison wink

We have a weighbridge at work, so at some point I will find out how heavy it is. I have the boat anchor version of the 16v engine (iron block), so it will certainly be a fair bit more than the original 850kg.