Saab 9-5 Aero - Hybrid Turbo and 9000 Bottom End - 350 bhp

[HybridAero]

100-200 km/h vs a Mk3 Focus RS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ywqbKZqlBM

And Ferrari 360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhqXVloYAaA

[HybridAero]

Experiencing steering wheel wobble at 50-70 mph. Could this be wheel alignment or wheel bearings or something?

[RumbleOfThunder]

More likely an unbalanced wheel. ttted a curb lately? For wheel bearings get the front wheels off the ground and check for play top and bottom.

[HybridAero]

RumbleOfThunder said:

More likely an unbalanced wheel. ttted a curb lately? For wheel bearings get the front wheels off the ground and check for play top and bottom.

Thanks. No, never curbed the alloys. Will get them balanced this weekend.

[xjay1337]

Will likely be a weight has fallen off

Has happened to me.

Glad the car is going well so far -
Invest in some tyre shine next time you wash the car

[HybridAero]

xjay1337 said:

Will likely be a weight has fallen off

Has happened to me.

Glad the car is going well so far -
Invest in some tyre shine next time you wash the car

I will! Would look so much better, I agree.

Didn't realise the weights were so important.

[Master Bean]

And now for sale....

[HybridAero]

Master Bean said:

And now for sale....

I will sell it for the 'right' price (currently asking for £4500). Much less than that and I'd rather just keep it. Need to get on the property ladder at some point, then can get back to indulging in cars. Problem with this 9-5 is it's too thirsty to do any more than 10k miles p/a, could do with a daily driver or LPGing this if I were to keep it.

[HybridAero]

HybridAero said:

I will sell it for the 'right' price (currently asking for £4500). Much less than that and I'd rather just keep it. Need to get on the property ladder at some point, then can get back to indulging in cars. Problem with this 9-5 is it's too thirsty to do any more than 10k miles p/a, could do with a daily driver or LPGing this if I were to keep it.

Just working out total build cost, around £8400; Someone would be getting a bargain.

[HybridAero]

Decided to keep it, too much hard work and money has gone into it, and just moved closer to work so fuel costs aren't an issue at all. Next job is to get the windows tinted, then in July respray the updated rear bumper, fit SAS ARBs and bigger brakes.

Following that, I've got one spare gearbox in the garage, so hopefully these two boxes will see me through another couple of years of boosting around and then will get one of these:

(A Maptun LSD'd box)
https://www.maptunparts.com/transmission-system/ge...

[Master Bean]

I knew you wouldn't sell it. Too much money and time gone into it. I've decided to invest some money into my suspension and brakes as they're not quite up to the job at 3 figures.

[HybridAero]

Master Bean said:

I knew you wouldn't sell it. Too much money and time gone into it. I've decided to invest some money into my suspension and brakes as they're not quite up to the job at 3 figures.

Which setup you getting? B12s are great but sometimes wish they were a little stiffer on b roads. I'm hoping ARBs help as the body roll is still there. How's yours running any plans for more tuning or are you busy with the Caterham? Which brakes you looking at? I've been recommended these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-VECTRA-C-S...

Edited by HybridAero on Monday 1st May 20:30

[Master Bean]

Eibach springs and some new bushes probably. Caterham is in for a service after 5000 miles of abuse

Edited by Master Bean on Monday 1st May 21:13

[HybridAero]

Took the Saab to have the wheels checked for missing weights, turns out they were all still intact



Turns out the tyre was ready to explode! Not sure if this is a Nottingham term but it had a 'bleb', allegedly normally caused by potholes. Perhaps it was from a recent B road blast.



Nipped down the road and picked up a used tyre with about 5 mm tread on it for £40, so should see me through to next MOT.

Drives smooth as silk again now

Edited by HybridAero on Tuesday 2nd May 19:58

[HybridAero]

Finally an RHD strut brace for the 9-5 that isn't a big bend! Not a bad price either:

http://a-zperformance.com/termekek.php?itemID=900&...



(Current setup

[HybridAero]

Master Bean said:

Eibach springs and some new bushes probably. Caterham is in for a service after 5000 miles of abuse

Edited by Master Bean on Monday 1st May 21:13

Which brakes you going for?

[JMF894]

Well what great work here Hybridaero well done. I am aware of this car from other forums but only just read through this thread. You must keep it although i can totally relate to the fuel costs. I do 60 a day to work and back, and compared to my old Leon FR smoker my 9-5 drinks a bit!

It would be rude if I didn't share mine so here you are......................

2006 Saab 9-5 Aero (Dame Edna) Saloon Manual

Chilli Red

Exceptional factory Spec with Sunroof, Vented Seats, Electric Dimmable Memory mirrors, Lux Pac and much more. And then the upgrades – see below!!!

Engine and Gearbox
Currently showing 67k miles with full Service History. Stacks of receipts. Genuine parts used. Very regular Oil changes using only GM Dexos 2 5w30 Fully Synthetic oil.
2.3 High Pressure Turbo
MapTun Stage 3 software with MapTuner
Bosch 3.5 BAR Fuel Pressure Regulator
MapTun SPEC 6PUK clutch Plate, Genuine Aero Clutch Kit (minus stock plate), Genuine Slave Cylinder, Genuine Flywheel
MapTun recirculating Dump Valve
Abbott racing intercooler

Chassis / Suspension and Brakes
MapTun 6-pot Brake kit
Eibach Springs
Bilstein B8 Shocks
MapTun front strut brace
Front Poly ARB Bushes
Front Poly Lower Wishbone Bushes and new wishbones
Front Poly Sub frame Bushes
Front Lower Poly Gearbox Mount Bushes
Rear Trailing Arm Poly Bushes
Rear Ant-Roll Bar Poly Bushes
Rear Upper and Lower Hub Rose Bushes
Front Top Mounts - Plates and Bearings
Full Tracking/Geometry Setup

Interior
Lux Pack
Full Leather (Cream / White) – I would say near perfect condition.
Electric and Memory Drivers / Passenger Seats
Heated Front Seats
Vented Front Seats
Heated Rear Seats
Factory Sat Nav with latest DVD
Parrot Car Kit – CK3100
1080 HD Dash Cam

Exterior / Wheels and Tyres / Exhaust
As new 19” Hirsch Alloys! With Vredestein Ultrac Vortis on the rear with 5mm and new Vredestein Ultrac Vortis on the front
Abbott 3” Exhaust System including 3” downpipe with race CAT
Xenons
Rain Sensor wipers
Electric Memory Fold and Dim Mirrors
Rear Parking Sensors
Factory rear Spoiler
Sunroof!

Was giving 313bhp with a standard IC and clutch that was starting to slip. I estimate a good 320bhp now.

And a few pics of course......................















Like you I am in need of a Quaife next. Power wise I am happy. For now lol. Defo need some uprated arbs too.

Out of interest how to the Bilstein B8s compare to your B12s? I find it very stiff.

Hope you like and keep up the good work.

Jimbo

[HybridAero]

Thanks Jimbo, your 9-5 is absolutely incredible!!! Those wheels are unreal, would absolutely love a set in gunmetal but they're so expensive. Also not seen a 9-5 in that colour, you need to upload pics of it to Saab Nuts on Facebook, it'll break the internet haha.

Sounds like you've really got the best out of the 15t, that's a great figure, and I bet it spins up really quickly.

B12s are 'revalved' B8 shocks with Eibach springs. Which springs are you running?

300ish bhp is plenty in these 9-5s, so next mods, which I aim to carry out in July, will focus on handling and driveability:

1)

Brand new Saab 9-5 gearbox with the latest updates and reinforced collapsible sleeve

Equipped with Saab/GM Torsen differential (Partnr: 01-QDH9395), a torque-biasing limited slip differential allowing for better traction under acceleration and cornering.

The gearbox has been built with tighter tolerances for better durability.



Will fit:

Saab 9-5 - 98-10 Manual ( Models between 04-10 will need shift linkage Partnr:105164108)

Available with final gear ratio 3:82 or 4:05 - https://www.maptunparts.com/transmission-system/ge...


2)

SAS 9-5 all models 98'-09' Uprated 25/22mm ARB/Sway Bar Kit

http://www.partsforsaabs.com/product_info.php?prod...




3)

Resprayed updated rear bumper:




4)

Big brake kit, possibly a 314mm conversion. What are the Maptun brakes like? They look ruddy awesome!

[JMF894]

Ha thanks. I have an issue with brake judder atm bt I am seeing a brake specialist on Tuesday so hopefully will have that sorted soon. The brakes are very very good but because of the judder problem I haven't really lent on them since I bought the car in January. I've been busy sorting little jobs.

New front drop links
New tyres
Replacement dimming door mirror glass

Gonna get the front end sprayed up (stone chips) either August whilst I'm away or leave it until the winter when I may get a snotter to run around in.

The car was set up very well by Neo Bros. Yes 310-320 is tops for a standard 15T but the car is very healthy. Spins up very quickly which does kinda put me off going hybrid/bigger turbo in the future. As it is the car only really comes into its own at naughty speeds.
I'm running eibach springs.

I need another dyno run as I do not know the torque.

Yes I do like the colour. Very rare.

Edited by JMF894 on Saturday 20th May 14:34

[HybridAero]

If you do find a dyno, make sure it's a Maha so we can compare like for like, would be interesting to see.

My 19t made 315 bhp 388 lb ft on its first run with boost issues, then on the next run it made 342 bhp and 384 lb ft, more recently it made 319 bhp 374 lb ft, all on the same dyno. Seems to be pulling like it's back at around 330-340 now, feels really lively.

I think the 19t is generally hard to control, not sure why though.

Karl reckons that because the 19t is SO hard to control, on a dyno the revs rise too quickly and this can cause the ECU to hold back, so on the road the car is normally making an extra 10 or so hp.