Knackered old Porsche with loads of miles - 996 content

Knackered old Porsche with loads of miles - 996 content

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CornedBeef

513 posts

188 months

Saturday 5th August 2017
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Glad to see it's all working nicely after the rebuild. You're threads claimed another victim, I put down a deposit on a red 996 this afternoon!

poppopbangbang

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1,838 posts

141 months

Saturday 5th August 2017
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CornedBeef said:
Glad to see it's all working nicely after the rebuild. You're threads claimed another victim, I put down a deposit on a red 996 this afternoon!
It didn't miss a beat!

Congratulations on your purchase, which one have you gone for? You'll have an awesome time with it, they are brilliant, brilliant things! biggrin

bgunn

1,417 posts

131 months

Saturday 5th August 2017
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CornedBeef said:
Glad to see it's all working nicely after the rebuild. You're threads claimed another victim, I put down a deposit on a red 996 this afternoon!
You won't regret it. Proper Porsches, they are.

tanneman

41 posts

94 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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Spotted you in the livery a week ago. We were out for an afternoon bimble on the bike before going to the Oakley meet.

CornedBeef

513 posts

188 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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poppopbangbang said:
It didn't miss a beat!

Congratulations on your purchase, which one have you gone for? You'll have an awesome time with it, they are brilliant, brilliant things! biggrin
A guards red aero kitted Carrera 2, 1998 with a few extras! When I get to collect in a few weeks I'll stick a thread up, I'm so bloody excited. I've wanted one since I was about 12 years old, so its kind of a dream fulfilled smile

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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Poppop,

How hot is hot? Given you have done such a thorough job of improving the cooling, I'm a little surprised TBH. Unless you have set the warning threshold lower than what most would consider hot.

WojaWabbit

1,112 posts

218 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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Awesome effort once again... that's the most thorough annual service I could imagine a 996 has ever seen!

I keep thinking about selling my 996 4S but reading threads like this make me think again. What else could I get that does the job anywhere near as well for the same money?!

poppopbangbang

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1,838 posts

141 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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stevesingo said:
Poppop,

How hot is hot? Given you have done such a thorough job of improving the cooling, I'm a little surprised TBH. Unless you have set the warning threshold lower than what most would consider hot.
"Engine Is Hot" alarm is on at 99 degrees, which is a similar temp to what most normal 996 reach idling in traffic. Considering we were moving at some speed in a 39 degree ambient I'm pretty happy with that. If the cooling system will hold it within 60 degrees of ambient at a sustained load that's pretty good!

poppopbangbang

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1,838 posts

141 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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CornedBeef said:
A guards red aero kitted Carrera 2, 1998 with a few extras! When I get to collect in a few weeks I'll stick a thread up, I'm so bloody excited. I've wanted one since I was about 12 years old, so its kind of a dream fulfilled smile
Wonderful! They look so good in Guards Red! I've had mine for years and still get a bit of a thrill when I walk past it so I know exactly how you feel!

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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I bought mine in September last year and have surprised myself by adding ~4,000 miles so far.

A fraction of the PPBB mileage of course, but far more than I had expected, but then if there's a choice between cars for a journey I always take the Porsche.

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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poppopbangbang said:
"Engine Is Hot" alarm is on at 99 degrees, which is a similar temp to what most normal 996 reach idling in traffic. Considering we were moving at some speed in a 39 degree ambient I'm pretty happy with that. If the cooling system will hold it within 60 degrees of ambient at a sustained load that's pretty good!
I was a bit shocked to see that too though, considering the some speed maybe a little bit more than 70ish? (biggrin), it usually stays just in the middle, as long as you keep moving on open roads?


poppopbangbang

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1,838 posts

141 months

Sunday 6th August 2017
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ooid said:
I was a bit shocked to see that too though, considering the some speed maybe a little bit more than 70ish? (biggrin), it usually stays just in the middle, as long as you keep moving on open roads?
The gauge you see on the dash isn't representative of the actual coolant temp the engine is at. The zero of the 80 is about 92 degrees C and the RH edge of the zero is about 102 degrees C actual coolant temp. The high speed fans don't even click in until this point on the standard ECU calibration. It's not unusual for standard cars with air-con to see 104 degrees in traffic. In high 30 degree ambients the standard two rad cars are fairly close to the limit of their cooling ability.

Frogmella

153 posts

90 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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poppopbangbang said:
The gauge you see on the dash isn't representative of the actual coolant temp the engine is at. The zero of the 80 is about 92 degrees C and the RH edge of the zero is about 102 degrees C actual coolant temp. The high speed fans don't even click in until this point on the standard ECU calibration. It's not unusual for standard cars with air-con to see 104 degrees in traffic. In high 30 degree ambients the standard two rad cars are fairly close to the limit of their cooling ability.
Sir PPBB, this thread has been one of the most enjoyable and inspirational I have had the pleasure to read on these forums, thanks!

Quick pick of your brains, I live in Florida so my 997 sits in mid-high 30c temps for half of the year. Would you say it would be wise to install an extra rad? I appreciate we are talking about 2 different generations of car here but I would love to draw upon your knowledge.


threadlock

3,196 posts

254 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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poppopbangbang said:


Floors clean again! No major dramas under it, which is pretty impressive given how many winters it has been through.
Maybe I'm being a donut (I'm not at all familiar with Porsches), but I can't imagine how that's a 911. The exhausts on a 911 surely don't run the length of the underside of the car?

confused

M3ax

1,291 posts

212 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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threadlock said:
Maybe I'm being a donut (I'm not at all familiar with Porsches), but I can't imagine how that's a 911. The exhausts on a 911 surely don't run the length of the underside of the car?

confused
Trick of the elongated camera shot I suspect . Either that or the latest mods have dispensed with wheels too smile

bgunn

1,417 posts

131 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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threadlock said:
Maybe I'm being a donut (I'm not at all familiar with Porsches), but I can't imagine how that's a 911. The exhausts on a 911 surely don't run the length of the underside of the car?

confused
You are a doughnut. They're the cooling pipes going to the front of the car! The engine is furthest away in this shot smile

The front diff housing/viscous coupling housing is in the foreground..

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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bgunn said:
threadlock said:
Maybe I'm being a donut (I'm not at all familiar with Porsches), but I can't imagine how that's a 911. The exhausts on a 911 surely don't run the length of the underside of the car?

confused
You are a doughnut. They're the cooling pipes going to the front of the car! The engine is furthest away in this shot smile

The front diff housing/viscous coupling housing is in the foreground..
Yeah what idiot spends 10 min looking at that photo trying to figure it out! Oh yeah I did! Haha.

To be fair the coolent pipes do look like headers from that angle.

Digga

40,317 posts

283 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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chuntington101 said:
bgunn said:
threadlock said:
Maybe I'm being a donut (I'm not at all familiar with Porsches), but I can't imagine how that's a 911. The exhausts on a 911 surely don't run the length of the underside of the car?

confused
You are a doughnut. They're the cooling pipes going to the front of the car! The engine is furthest away in this shot smile

The front diff housing/viscous coupling housing is in the foreground..
Yeah what idiot spends 10 min looking at that photo trying to figure it out! Oh yeah I did! Haha.

To be fair the coolent pipes do look like headers from that angle.
TBF, the fact it's a 4WD 911 - so from this angle, you;re looking up at the front diff housing - does slightly confuse the issue. Normally, you can't see any of this stuff, because it's hidden by the floor panels.


poppopbangbang

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1,838 posts

141 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Frogmella said:
Sir PPBB, this thread has been one of the most enjoyable and inspirational I have had the pleasure to read on these forums, thanks!

Quick pick of your brains, I live in Florida so my 997 sits in mid-high 30c temps for half of the year. Would you say it would be wise to install an extra rad? I appreciate we are talking about 2 different generations of car here but I would love to draw upon your knowledge.
For the most part no but that is with a pinch of salt. If the car isn't overheating in traffic as is then adding the centre rad won't help or make much of a difference as it has no fans on it. The centre rad is really for cooling during periods of high load at speed e.g. fast motorway cruising or circuit use. However the centre rad does help get the bulk temp of the coolant down MUCH quicker once you are moving again so in that respect it can be very useful.

The most important thing is to make sure the fans are working, rads are in good order and clear of debris and if you so desire you can fit a low temp thermostat which whilst won't help the maximum temperature achieved in traffic it will reduce the starting temperature so on average reduce the overall coolant temperature average.

JS1500

579 posts

177 months

Monday 7th August 2017
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Interesting stuff.
My 996 overheated on the way to and from getting some new tyres fitted at the weekend. Believe it is the driver's side radiator leaking...but fans didn't seem to be coming on...requires investigation! Wondered about the possibility of fitting a centre rad too...