The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

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helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Your coolant is on min.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
It's a nice car however I see the ongoing self-justification hasn't ceased since the last thread...
I'm sorry mate but i could't agree more with the above statement.

I know you're just making comparisons but you make yourself sound daft. Next time, do yourself and everyone else a favour and just get the car you actually wanted originally and just spend the extra few grand (Golf GTI).

I also love the comparison in torque compared to a Golf R32, which is still quicker than a standard Polo GTI. Regardless if it was or not, i know which one i'd rather have.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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I'm not sure an R32 would be quicker apart from the actual launch obviously due to the 4wd. Need to find me one to test that out!

I compare it a lot to other cars as I looked at a heck of a lot of them before coming to this decision.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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dci said:
Why should it matter if other people call it the poor mans Golf?

Stop caring what other people think about it and for god sake stop justifying it by saying how much better you think it is than the Fiesta ST or 208 GTi! rofl
Because he's a narcissist who couldn't afford a Golf GTI.

After noticing you chucking your Polo into conversation on many unrelated threads, I thought I'd drop in and have a look at your Readers' Cars thread. Tidy enough car, but self-justification is as expected.

Also, I thought these were 177bhp/180ps?
It's a tidy enough car, but with <140bhp/tonne it's not going to be troubling an R32. ~15secs seems to be the norm for the 1/4 mile, which is nippy (on par with Fiesta ST et al) but hardly life-changing.

Edited by C70R on Tuesday 4th October 10:42

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Officially they are 189 bhp or 193ps with 236ib/ft (320nm) as standard.This has the EA888 1.8 turbo engine as opposed to the pre facelift that had 180bhp and a 1.4tfsi engine.

On the rollers they are coming out around 205-210bhp and maybe a smidge less torque.

Weight is 1272kg for the manual although I believe that's with fuel and driver.

Oh and I could have afforded a lot more than a Golf Gti or R if we are going to mock my finances wink

However I can't justify that sort of expenditure on a car to be honest.

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
For reference an R32 has exactly the same torque figure but only available higher in the rev range and of course it weighs a st tonne more!
but the R32 engine is full of soul and character and is not just another dull VAG 4 pot

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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This is true although I prefer 40+ mpg rather than 20+ ; )

It doesn't sound too bad with sports mode on. .

https://youtu.be/xPX41fmdP2c

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Officially they are 189 bhp or 193ps with 236ib/ft (320nm) as standard.This has the EA888 1.8 turbo engine as opposed to the pre facelift that had 180bhp and a 1.4tfsi engine.

On the rollers they are coming out around 205-210bhp and maybe a smidge less torque.

Weight is 1272kg for the manual although I believe that's with fuel and driver.

Oh and I could have afforded a lot more than a Golf Gti or R if we are going to mock my finances wink

However I can't justify that sort of expenditure on a car to be honest.
Fair enough - looks like Carfolio let me down a bit on that one.
I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to "over-delivering" cars, because it just seems far too convenient that a bunch of enthusiastic owners have had some bloke in a shed tell them their car is performing better than VW suggest/admit.

It's nice that you're so excited about it, and all. But perhaps tone down the unsolicited "I've got a Polo GTi and it's as good as XXX because YYY" stuff, because it makes you sound a bit desperate for attention.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
I'm not sure an R32 would be quicker apart from the actual launch obviously due to the 4wd. Need to find me one to test that out!

I compare it a lot to other cars as I looked at a heck of a lot of them before coming to this decision.
I'm not arguing with you Joe, an R32 IS quicker.

No-one mocking your finances btw. You specifically said you didn't want to spend the extra on the Golf GTI as it wasn't worth it in your eyes. That's all fine and dandy. It's the way you've started comparing it to all other fast VAG cars and saying that "it's basically the same as..." or "it's nearly as fast as...". This is where you sound like you've just sucked on a massive lemon.

A Golf GTI is still faster for the record.


BlueHave

4,649 posts

108 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
BlueHave said:
Polo GTI is £18k thats a good £10k under a Golf GTI, the build quality might be a step up but it's not £10k worth of improvement.
In the power stakes the regular Golf Gti only has around 20bhp and 22ib/ft more but obviously weighs at least a heavy passenger or so more.

Shame the Polo can't be ordered with a proper performance pack like the Golf (all you get is a sports pack which just adds engine noise, increased throttle response, adjustable dampers and increased steering weight)
Its like the old Maserati and Ferrari thing. VW will never make a Polo that has performance figures better than the Golf GTI. The R might be the daddy now , but the GTI has always been the stalwart of the brand.

ManicMunky

529 posts

120 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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I've got a Golf GTI and the wife has a Polo GTI.

Polo GTI is nice, but the Golf is better wink

JakeT

5,427 posts

120 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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helix402 said:
Your coolant is on min.
It saves weight obviously. Oil is on min for that reason too.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,597 posts

155 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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BlueHave said:
JoeMarano said:
I think it's the "poor mans Golf" comments that seem to bug me. It's a good car in its own right!

Anyway bit of non VW related content but I went down to see my brother at the weekend to see his first ever car!

https://youtu.be/119H0FfaEAI
Might be biased but the 2016 Polo looks a lot better than the current Golf which has been peddling the same styling for 6 years now.
And the polo has looked the same since 2009 its hardly made any difference the facelift

SVX

2,182 posts

211 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JakeT said:
helix402 said:
Your coolant is on min.
It saves weight obviously. Oil is on min for that reason too.
Fold down the back seats for that extra 10th at the lights.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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culpz said:
I'm not arguing with you Joe, an R32 IS quicker.

No-one mocking your finances btw. You specifically said you didn't want to spend the extra on the Golf GTI as it wasn't worth it in your eyes. That's all fine and dandy. It's the way you've started comparing it to all other fast VAG cars and saying that "it's basically the same as..." or "it's nearly as fast as...". This is where you sound like you've just sucked on a massive lemon.

A Golf GTI is still faster for the record.
According to the top gear "top ten hot hatchbacks" article the Polo Gti was actually faster to 60 than the Golf!

It posted a 6.3s to 60 rather than the book figure of 6.7

Reference them over reading on the rollers....superchips development Polo Gti was 207 bhp standard smile

JoeMarano

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100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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There are plenty of videos on my youtube channel for anyone interested.

http://www.youtube.com/sax0joe

I'm not going to get into an argument about the car. I like it so i'll continue the thread as I see fit.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
And the polo has looked the same since 2009 its hardly made any difference the facelift
There are quite a few differences under the skin but cosmetically it's wheels, front bumper, rear bumper, skirts, spoiler and headlights so not many changes at all lol

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
According to the top gear "top ten hot hatchbacks" article the Polo Gti was actually faster to 60 than the Golf!

It posted a 6.3s to 60 rather than the book figure of 6.7

Reference them over reading on the rollers....superchips development Polo Gti was 207 bhp standard smile
Pretty much most of the VAG engines, especially the ones put in the performance models, come out with more BHP than quoted by VW themselves. This has then, subsequently, meant the 0-60 times have also been better than the book figures.

So, a Mk7 Golf GTI goes 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, it's actually doing it in about 6.0 seconds as tested, maybe even less. So no, you're wrong, the Golf has been and has always been faster than the Polo.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,597 posts

155 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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The front end looks almost the same ok the bumper has 2 funny shelfs on it and grown 2 dangly bits but its very similar as its the same shell



Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Tuesday 4th October 16:32

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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culpz said:
Pretty much most of the VAG engines, especially the ones put in the performance models, come out with more BHP than quoted by VW themselves. This has then, subsequently, meant the 0-60 times have also been better than the book figures.

So, a Mk7 Golf GTI goes 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, it's actually doing it in about 6.0 seconds as tested, maybe even less. So no, you're wrong, the Golf has been and has always been faster than the Polo.
May I refer you to this page which says otherwise:

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/hot-hatc...

Oh and the Golf's top speed is higher yes but only by 5mph. I know all this as I did the research before buying the car!