Caught speeding a hire vehicle with 2 drivers
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So I've just been told that a vehicle that I was in got caught speeding (73 in a 60). Problems being that it was a hired vehicle (which I didn't hire) and there was 2 of us in it, of which we don't know who was driving.
We split the journey, half each both ways. We got flashed on the first half on the return journey, but it was 3 weeks ago and we can't remember who was driving.
There is no photo of the driver, only the rear plate.
How do we proceed? Obviously I don't wanna just throw my hands up and take the heat, and I would assume the other guy doesn't either. It was (in my opinion) a long time ago and an inane detail to just remember.
We split the journey, half each both ways. We got flashed on the first half on the return journey, but it was 3 weeks ago and we can't remember who was driving.
There is no photo of the driver, only the rear plate.
How do we proceed? Obviously I don't wanna just throw my hands up and take the heat, and I would assume the other guy doesn't either. It was (in my opinion) a long time ago and an inane detail to just remember.
No I can't remember. Is that unreasonable? I can't remember what I had for dinner 3 weeks ago either.
I've nominated to go the "I legitimately cannot remember" route. The company has yet to come back to me. I don't know what the other guy has said.
The road was the A19 on the 7th April. I'm normally good as gold in hire vehicles for this very reason.
I've nominated to go the "I legitimately cannot remember" route. The company has yet to come back to me. I don't know what the other guy has said.
The road was the A19 on the 7th April. I'm normally good as gold in hire vehicles for this very reason.
So if the other guy says it was you you'll be fine with that?? Id just say it was him and see what happens tbh.
But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
AbzST64 said:
So if the other guy says it was you you'll be fine with that?? Id just say it was him and see what happens tbh.
But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Not sure why you're struggling with this. It was 3 weeks ago. It's an inane detail to remember. It was in total maybe a 4hr journey. We weren't driving to flaming Italy.But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Also I'm relatively friendly with the other guy so I'm unwilling to throw him under the bus, and I would hope he feels the same.
CasuallyDressed said:
Gawd knows. Creates a paradox and the universe collapses on itself? Only as a best case scenario, of course.
Perhaps 6 points attached to an MS90 endorsement for "failure to furnish driver details" might help focus your mind a little? The MS90 will make motor insurance rather more expensive for the next 5 years as well - certainly far more expensive than 3 points for speeding (or perhaps the driver will qualify for a speed awareness course). Your colleague will receive the same penalty if one of you doesn't name themselves as driver.. This won't go away.You need to check things like documents that were written on (say) a laptop, and emails and texts (if you sent texts or emails or were writing something in "word" or "excel" on a laptop at the relevant time then you [hopefully] weren't driving); your colleague needs to do the same. Ditto records of calls made, though "hands free" might make this useless - perhaps speak to the people you spoke to on the relevant journey and ask if they can help suggest who was driving? Check diary entries? Fuel receipts and bank statements (did the driver or the passenger buy fuel or munchies for you both on the relevant journey?). It's called "due diligence" and the bar is set very high for people to be found not guilty of failing to furnish driver details in court (otherwise we'd all get away with it, which can't be allowed to happen pour encourager les autres).
3 weeks ago, in the great scheme of things, is not such a long time period that people won't be able to recall even mere snippets of the day with help from diaries, bank statements and phone/laptop records etc.
CasuallyDressed said:
AbzST64 said:
So if the other guy says it was you you'll be fine with that?? Id just say it was him and see what happens tbh.
But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Not sure why you're struggling with this. It was 3 weeks ago. It's an inane detail to remember. It was in total maybe a 4hr journey. We weren't driving to flaming Italy.But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Also I'm relatively friendly with the other guy so I'm unwilling to throw him under the bus, and I would hope he feels the same.
If you did roughly half each and know where you switched (presumably at a service station or something) surely its fairly obvious depending on where the fine was. Unless you jumped in and out multiple times on the journey but that would be a tad strange.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 27th April 11:56
p1stonhead said:
CasuallyDressed said:
AbzST64 said:
So if the other guy says it was you you'll be fine with that?? Id just say it was him and see what happens tbh.
But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Not sure why you're struggling with this. It was 3 weeks ago. It's an inane detail to remember. It was in total maybe a 4hr journey. We weren't driving to flaming Italy.But also find it strange you really can't remember a split 50/50 journey and what leg you drove...!
Anyway someone will have to take the fine/points or whatever so better to say now than go to court!
Also I'm relatively friendly with the other guy so I'm unwilling to throw him under the bus, and I would hope he feels the same.
If you did roughly half each and know where you switched (presumably at a service station or something) surely its fairly obvious depending on where the fine was. Unless you jumped in and out multiple times on the journey but that would be a tad strange.
Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 27th April 11:56
CasuallyDressed said:
Not sure why you're struggling with this. It was 3 weeks ago. It's an inane detail to remember. It was in total maybe a 4hr journey. We weren't driving to flaming Italy.
Also I'm relatively friendly with the other guy so I'm unwilling to throw him under the bus, and I would hope he feels the same.
Do you remember any stop offs you had, check your bank statement/receipts it may jug your memory, if you tell the other bloke you cant remember then he will just say "yeah mate deffo you driving remember we laughed about that funny looking pink car" and then your stuffed as you cant remember but he can.Also I'm relatively friendly with the other guy so I'm unwilling to throw him under the bus, and I would hope he feels the same.
cmaguire said:
The way most of those on here carry on you'd think they actually want to be punished.
I would make it as difficult as possible for them. Tell them you don't know who was driving as it is the truth (supposedly).
And then wait.
Utterly trivial offence. Let them work for it.
I would make it as difficult as possible for them. Tell them you don't know who was driving as it is the truth (supposedly).
And then wait.
Utterly trivial offence. Let them work for it.
Yes, waste more taxpayers money doing that.
Someone's going to get punished one way or another why drag it out?
I don't believe for a minute that the OP can't work out who was driving, he's just hoping someone will tell him that it'll get dropped if they pretend otherwise.
cmaguire said:
The way most of those on here carry on you'd think they actually want to be punished.
I would make it as difficult as possible for them. Tell them you don't know who was driving as it is the truth (supposedly).
And then wait.
Utterly trivial offence. Let them work for it.
Here, Sir. Have this MS90/6pts.I would make it as difficult as possible for them. Tell them you don't know who was driving as it is the truth (supposedly).
And then wait.
Utterly trivial offence. Let them work for it.
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