Mercedes w210 E430 (no titivating allowed)

Mercedes w210 E430 (no titivating allowed)

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paulyv

1,019 posts

123 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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It's lovely to be cool in a cool car.

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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MB Newcastle did an 'A' service, fitted new rear discs and pads, fitted the air con compressor and gassed up the system for £490. Not a cheap week. However, it is indeed good to be in a cool car. The diagnostic function in the air con control unit tells me that the evaporator temperature is running as low as 2 deg C. The refrigerant pressure is generally in double figures, too.

Here it is in their workshop. It has also been well washed and vacuumed, saving me a job.

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

227 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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r129sl said:
MB Newcastle did an 'A' service, fitted new rear discs and pads, fitted the air con compressor and gassed up the system for £490. Not a cheap week.
Not a cheap week, but £490 is a good price for all that work at a main dealer, even if you were supplying the parts.

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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It was all going so well. Ten minutes before setting out for Bath, I noticed this oddity on the offside rear disc (through the wheel spokes). It appeared that the pad was not in full contact with the disc.




I jacked the car up and took the wheel off. The outboard pad was not secured in the calliper by the retaining pins. It was rather under the retaining pins. Pretty shocking basic safety. It only took five minutes to fix but without flattering myself, I suspect 99% of motorists would not have noticed and 99.9% would not have been able to fix it.






I've dropped them a line with pictures and they were straight back. What can you do? All's well that ends well and all that but that is a schoolboy error that even I wouldn't make and brake safety is a boot as important as it gets.

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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The 210 in Bath! Unfortunately I noticed the driver's side side light had packed in. That can wait until we get home. This afternoon I drove us up from Bath to Stoke-on-Trent (where I had to get out to do some work here tomorrow). The traffic is insane and part of the M6 was closed. We rejoined an empty motorway after the closure; confident that all police cars would be at the cause of the closure, I was able to "make up time". It is a great long distance car. My wife is presently driving car and boys back to Northumberland; I quite envy her the high speed run through the Lune Valley to Tebay services.


99t

997 posts

209 months

Monday 30th July 2018
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r129sl said:
The outboard pad was not secured in the calliper by the retaining pins.
Good spot! thumbup

r129sl said:
I've dropped them a line with pictures and they were straight back. What can you do?
I hope there was a grovelling apology and an offer of some sort of future discount?

Although I would be very dubious of going back somewhere that can't get that sort of bread and butter stuff correct.

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Monday 30th July 2018
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If you want something doing...

Pretty shocking that from a main dealer.

harrykul

2,770 posts

226 months

Monday 30th July 2018
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I'm sure that they'll make a trainee a scapegoat, that's what one did to me years ago when they didn't tighten my sump plug properly!!!

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Monday 30th July 2018
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They've just been on the phone and have been very square about things. They are doing the service and alignment on my 129 FOC. Can't say fairer than that. I wasn't after anything at all: I simply figured they would want to know so they could tighten things up if necessary.

Max M4X WW

4,795 posts

182 months

Monday 30th July 2018
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r129sl said:
They've just been on the phone and have been very square about things. They are doing the service and alignment on my 129 FOC. Can't say fairer than that. I wasn't after anything at all: I simply figured they would want to know so they could tighten things up if necessary.
Apart from the fact it was a clip, there is a pun there somewhere laugh

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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I changed the air filter yesterday and then took some photos. It's a great car this. It is not very handsome. But it is very easy to maintain and ever so easy to use.




The airbox was a bit of a mess:



My favourite field again:





xeny

4,305 posts

78 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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r129sl said:
, the missing-in-action outside temperature gauge.
Excuse my potential ignorance, but isn't this typically fed by an engine management sensor, so if the sensor isn't reporting the engine management will run with sub optimal limp mode values?

harrykul

2,770 posts

226 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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The otg is fed from a sensor on the front bumper iirc

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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xeny said:
r129sl said:
, the missing-in-action outside temperature gauge.
Excuse my potential ignorance, but isn't this typically fed by an engine management sensor, so if the sensor isn't reporting the engine management will run with sub optimal limp mode values?
The gauge (or display, I suppose) suffers dead pixels, that is all. As Harry says, the OTG gets separate information from a different sender to the engine management computer (and to the climate control computer, for that matter).

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Air con is playing up again. The main dealer reckons it is a bad pressure sensor: replacement scheduled for tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

I put a set of Michelin CrossClimates on it a couple of weeks ago. £460. They feel pretty good but make a hissing noise when leaning on them in corners. Also, I managed to stand on the sat nav disc while taking pictures out of the sun roof. I bought two copy discs (£20 each) which did not work before giving up and buying a pukka one for £70. Worked straight away. A lesson to us.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,234 posts

180 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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r129sl said:
Also, I managed to stand on the sat nav disc while taking pictures out of the sun roof. I bought two copy discs (£20 each) which did not work before giving up and buying a pukka one for £70. Worked straight away. A lesson to us.
Exactement - don't stand on your own stuff!

JakeT

5,422 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
r129sl said:
Also, I managed to stand on the sat nav disc while taking pictures out of the sun roof. I bought two copy discs (£20 each) which did not work before giving up and buying a pukka one for £70. Worked straight away. A lesson to us.
Exactement - don't stand on your own stuff!
hehe

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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An expensive lesson: £245 for a new pressure valve.

harrycovert

421 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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r129sl said:
Air con is playing up again. The main dealer reckons it is a bad pressure sensor: replacement scheduled for tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

I put a set of Michelin CrossClimates on it a couple of weeks ago. £460. They feel pretty good but make a hissing noise when leaning on them in corners. Also, I managed to stand on the sat nav disc while taking pictures out of the sun roof. I bought two copy discs (£20 each) which did not work before giving up and buying a pukka one for £70. Worked straight away. A lesson to us.
Do you have a link for the £70 disc [presume its UK?]

r129sl

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9,518 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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harrycovert said:
Do you have a link for the £70 disc [presume its UK?]
https://www.navmapstore.com/product/1242/TeleAtlas_Maps_2013_2014_UK_and_Ireland_for_Blaupunkt_TravelPilot_DX

I've bought Germany and Benelux from these people last year and they delivered in about 3 days. There is a chap on German eBay selling a complete set of MB discs, also 2013/14, for £120.

I used the car to go to Carlisle and back today, under pressure of time in both directions, and it was a very satisfying companion, loping along the Military Road at an indecent pace. It was a really good buy this car. Not classic, not stylish, and certainly not perfect, but cheap, fast, comfortable, effective, a real delight to own. Cost per mile over 26,000miles, excluding purchase, is 32.9p. Add in the purchase price and assume it is worthless, and the cost rises to 44.5p per mile. I might get new wings and have it, er, titivated...