W211 E55 AMG

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TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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HybridAero said:
Please convince me not to get an E55; I just got a frighteningly reasonable insurance quote!

Guessing there must be a catch? It's soooo much car for £8ishK. 22 mpg average is incredible! I guess AMG must use lightweight internals and the engine will rarely be stressed in daily use.
Dooooooooooooo it LOL

I know of one for sale at the moment in Silver with 132k on it.

KillerHERTZ said:
Couldnt be living with that aftermarket grill, needs the OEM one on it asap smile
LOL! I have an Avantgarde one on the way wink

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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The engines seem to be very robust, I was going to make the change from my CLS 500 a few months back, but bottled out, there seem to be mostly the same ones for sale now, at the same prices, they are epic cars but with a very small market, not because people wouldnt love one, but because they are a big, complex old Merc that does MPG in the teens as a rule and can throw some pretty big bills, also, the posers have moved on into C63's and these tend ot look a bit old but are comign out of that, the OPs one looks superb, understated with a hint of menace

That said, if the basics are right, i.e. engine, box and bodywork, the rest, by and large isnt that bad, suspension parts are cheap, even the airmatic stuff isnt hat bad these days with Arnott doing better than OEM air struts for £400 or so, and the pumps, I did mine a few weeks back are £100 or so off Ebay and an hour to change.

Nobody would say they are cheap to run but they dont have the same terror factor as say, a V10 M5 in terms of engine and gearbox problems, not really heard of any engine problems that werent down to stupidity, even when running big power.

I think they havent got any kind of scene tax applied yet, realistically I put them a seven to nine grand car at the moment, some are silly money because they have low miles, I just say, should have used it more, its still an old Merc that is currently hard to shift, think that may change at some point but for now, the prices need to come down a bit, I was going to see this in March, still there, as is the CLS55 they have

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-54-REG-MERCEDES-E55...

Dont know why dealers hang on to stock so long, it is six months older now, maybe knock £1000 off it and it may sell ?


Can be a big difference between any car at this age but I saw some ruins for sale, with four worn budget tyres and a general air of uncared for, then you get some forum inhabitants box fresh model, with a few good mods and all the usual stuff sorted, they are the ones that could be worth ten grand or a bit more, buy a ropey one of these and you could need top spend three grand plus to get it anywhere near right.

It is a hell of a car for the money though, my CLS 5.5 shifts but these take it up a few notches, outright quicker but its the immediacy of the power deliver, even nowadays not much has more torque, with a few choice mods you can have knocking on 600 bhp, whether you need to is another question but its the cheapest 600 bhp car you will find, three grand in mods plus the car.



Rawhide

964 posts

213 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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HybridAero said:
Please convince me not to get an E55; I just got a frighteningly reasonable insurance quote!

Guessing there must be a catch? It's soooo much car for £8ishK. 22 mpg average is incredible! I guess AMG must use lightweight internals and the engine will rarely be stressed in daily use.
This won't help at all wink

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=e55+a...

There are some really good youtube clips recently including an E55 with 400k on the clock.

turboflutter

268 posts

129 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Thought I recognised this! Saw your post on the e39 club on facebook a few days back. Properly cool car, very understated unless you really know your stuff I bet everybody passing it in that supermarket car park wouldn't look twice. Want, very much.

sc0tt

18,037 posts

201 months

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Think one of these might be my next car smile

AMGmeister has a nice one that he covers on Youtube.

PowerslideSWE

1,116 posts

138 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Wow, looks great OP, the colour is very nice indeed. I agree however with previous posters that some of the interiour looks shonk-tastic compared to the e39 and Mercs of old, but that's progress I guess.

This is one of the cars on a very short list that I intend to replace the E39 M5 with when the time comes. Might aswell go supercharged V8 before everything is a one-cylinder diesel/electric hybrid biggrin

Edited by PowerslideSWE on Monday 17th July 16:49

Muzzer79

9,907 posts

187 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
I like the way you have over half a tank of fuel left, but your range is only 161 miles hehethumbup

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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turboflutter said:
Thought I recognised this! Saw your post on the e39 club on facebook a few days back. Properly cool car, very understated unless you really know your stuff I bet everybody passing it in that supermarket car park wouldn't look twice. Want, very much.
Yeah it's just a Berlin taxi, which I quite like tbh. It does have a little rumble and I have seen people looking at it as I am driving, perhaps the s/c whine also helps!

MDMA . said:
Think one of these might be my next car smile

AMGmeister has a nice one that he covers on Youtube.
It is epic. I haven't driven it since Sunday, but cannot wait to do so next!

Cheers, I am going to watch his vids, shockingly seeing as how I don't watch Vlogs hehe

PowerslideSWE said:
Wow, looks great OP, the colour is very nice indeed. I agree however with previous posters that some of the interiour looks shonk-tastic compared to the e39 and Mercs of old, but that's progress I guess.

This is one of the cars on a very short list that I intend to replace the E39 M5 with when the time comes. Might aswell go supercharged V8 before everything is a one-cylinder diesel/electric hybrid biggrin

Edited by PowerslideSWE on Monday 17th July 16:49
Thanks! Oh definitely, the E39 interior is class, the E55 is council hehe
I had never had a supercharged car before. I was expecting it to feel like a powerful V8. At 2k when the charger clutch kicks in its like the afterburners have been lit. It's one heck of a quick car!

I am still getting used to the brakes, they don't have a lot of feeling due to their brake by wire nature, but they do stop better than my M5.

Muzzer79 said:
I like the way you have over half a tank of fuel left, but your range is only 161 miles hehethumbup
hehe It was less than that, it was at around 125 miles. It goes up when on tick over lol.


ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Get some braided lines fitted & a change of pads will give you the bite you're looking for.

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
Get some braided lines fitted & a change of pads will give you the bite you're looking for.
Any particular brand of pads?

Will the brakes need bleeding?

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
Any particular brand of pads?

Will the brakes need bleeding?
Yes, removing the brake lines will require bleeding of the brakes.
Not the end of the world, unless the fluid has been changed in the last 24 months.
It's hygroscopic so takes in water over time.

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
TheAngryDog said:
Any particular brand of pads?

Will the brakes need bleeding?
Yes, removing the brake lines will require bleeding of the brakes.
Not the end of the world, unless the fluid has been changed in the last 24 months.
It's hygroscopic so takes in water over time.
Doh me, I knew that LOL. I mis-read it as changing the pads only!

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
Doh me, I knew that LOL. I mis-read it as changing the pads only!
No, but i remove the brake fluid reservoir cap when retracting the pistons to give the fluid somewhere to go.
(Up into the space where there was air, not over flow out the reservoir!)

TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
TheAngryDog said:
Doh me, I knew that LOL. I mis-read it as changing the pads only!
No, but i remove the brake fluid reservoir cap when retracting the pistons to give the fluid somewhere to go.
(Up into the space where there was air, not over flow out the reservoir!)
Yeah, I just wasn't sure if they'd need a re-bleed afterwards, especially with the SBC being something of an interesting proposition.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
Yeah, I just wasn't sure if they'd need a re-bleed afterwards, especially with the SBC being something of an interesting proposition.
If your one is affected by a the SBC issue yours is one that can be reprogrammed to give you another load of stops.

I now use Carbon Lorraine pads on my E500 they have a very nice bite but I use Brembos on the 63 as they seem to give better feel on that cars brake setup.



TheAngryDog

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Tuesday 18th July 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
TheAngryDog said:
Yeah, I just wasn't sure if they'd need a re-bleed afterwards, especially with the SBC being something of an interesting proposition.
If your one is affected by a the SBC issue yours is one that can be reprogrammed to give you another load of stops.

I now use Carbon Lorraine pads on my E500 they have a very nice bite but I use Brembos on the 63 as they seem to give better feel on that cars brake setup.
It has already had the counter reset done previously in the last 12 months. I have money aside for an SBC pump just in case.

I think Brembo's are standard issue aren't they?

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Yes but you can buy much better pads than the OEM items

Rawhide

964 posts

213 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Do your research on braided lines. I doubt you would notice any change in feel as all you would feel is up to the SBC controller. I know you can brake in case of SBC failure but it's very much reduced. Bleeding is not simple and required STAR diagnostics.

I would just replace with decent disks and pads and be done. I replaced with Zimmerman disks and Brembo pads for about £260 with me doing the labour. It's not the easiest of jobs due to sheer size bit still a simple DIY. Very cheap in the grand scheme of things.

Edited by Rawhide on Wednesday 19th July 08:22

TheAngryDog

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209 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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The front disc's are fine with no lip so not going to replace just yet. I aren't sure about EBC RedStuff pads, are they any good? I don't rate YellowStuff.

Any other recommendations other than Brembo?

Car is booked in with MSL Performance for the 12th of August for a check over.

While going through the paperwork last night I discovered that it has had the newest Bosch IC pump fitted as well, bonus.

Standard airboxes are going back on as well.

I haven't driven it since Sunday, but I need to use it tonight, I cannot wait!! I almost drove into work today hehe