BMW 2002Tii (ish)

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5harp3y

1,942 posts

198 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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stunning, watching with interest.

Simon182

131 posts

126 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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scottos said:
Cheers matey, just in a little village up towards Durham now so relatively local still!

Are you still down York way?
Kind of between York and Doncaster in a small village too, we bought a house last year.

I'll have to pop up sometime, love the 2002Tii!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Lovely. Always thought they looked great in orange.

carinaman

21,214 posts

171 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Good work, very nice indeed. I like the photo with the beer and open door.

99t

996 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Great work and an enjoyable read, thanks for posting.

These have such a lovely shape and such elegant lines. Pretty sure if I'd not been brainwashed into Saabs at an early age, I'd have one of these in my classic garage now, along with a Lancia Fulvia (equally lovely lines).

egomeister

6,698 posts

262 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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scottos said:
Lovely looking BMW, but I couldn't let this last pic go... if you are going to do this Bavarian build properly you need to sort that glass out!


ManOpener

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Always loved the 2002 and this one is shaping up to be a bit special.



Are those two/four-piston brake calipers standard, or has it received uprated brakes at some point in it's life?

scottos

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1,139 posts

123 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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99t said:
Great work and an enjoyable read, thanks for posting.

These have such a lovely shape and such elegant lines. Pretty sure if I'd not been brainwashed into Saabs at an early age, I'd have one of these in my classic garage now, along with a Lancia Fulvia (equally lovely lines).
Thanks, appreciate you reading it!

We must have similar tastes, I had looked at fulvias and even though the handling is good I wanted a rwd car to do and have always been taken by the 2002. Stunning things though, we have done a few of the strange and quirky engines in them where I lend a hand on Saturdays.

egomeister said:
scottos said:
Lovely looking BMW, but I couldn't let this last pic go... if you are going to do this Bavarian build properly you need to sort that glass out!
Haha noted! Sadly (or not) this car has come before many household items that would be much better in day to day life than a none working 2002. I should move an Erdinger glass further up the list though!

ManOpener said:
Always loved the 2002 and this one is shaping up to be a bit special.



Are those two/four-piston brake calipers standard, or has it received uprated brakes at some point in it's life?
Thanks, I'm hoping it'll end out being pretty special when it's done too.

Well spotted, the calipers are m535i 4 pot items, hubs are 6 cylinder e21 and discs are vented e21 320i items. The rear has also been upgraded from drums to mk1 golf solid front discs with what look to be Mk4 golf rear calipers, including the hand brake mechanism. Sadly this means I can't run 13 inch wheels.

The front calipers have 4 bleed nipples and dual feeds as the 2002's came with twin remote servos. I'm going to keep them for now and see how I get on!

If the car wasn't a tii then Volvo 4 pot calipers and different hubs can be used (much the same but different spacing) but the tii and turbo came with much thicker stub axles.

Richair

1,021 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Great thread/project, always loved the 2002. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out, but it looks like it'll be a lot of fun!! cool

scottos

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1,139 posts

123 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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Richair said:
Great thread/project, always loved the 2002. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out, but it looks like it'll be a lot of fun!! cool
Thanks! Me too on all accounts, i've never even driven one so i really hope it will be fun laugh

SebringMan

1,773 posts

185 months

Friday 28th July 2017
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This looks like an awesome build! I await to see what happens.

scottos

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1,139 posts

123 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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SebringMan said:
This looks like an awesome build! I await to see what happens.
Thanks! Update below!

Feels like I’ve spent quite a lot of time on this but don’t feel all that much further forward! I guess I’m almost back to where I started when I got the car except everything mechanical is now done properly and there’s also lots more shiny bits!

The main focus recently has been building the bottom end back up whilst I wait for the head to be modified. The gearbox is still in bits, thinking being I can use the input shaft to set the clutch on the flywheel so the gearbox will probably be one of the next installments!

I got the block back from where I help out at on weekends sometimes (read Saturday job of 14 years!), great job as I knew. Even though its spent hours in the chemical hot wash I can’t stress the need and importance of an immaculately clean block. I spent hours further cleaning all the oil galleries and mating/ bearing surfaces. New compression seals, o-rings, gaskets etc throughout. Following this I painted it in satin black and started the bottom end build.





Before and after as an example on big end:





Piston:





I set about balancing all the static items since all rotating items had been done. This took me around 6 hours, one piston was 8g heavier than the rest and that’s a fair chunk to take out of a piston, it wasn’t balanced very well as it was. In the end I got the rods perfect and the piston assemblies to within 0.4g, rather stringent for a basic build but when your own time isn’t costing money it was worth it! My board of scribbles:



Job done:



Next was for ring gapping and building each assembly up, all spot on out of the packet so no need to change. I did check every single one though and took the corners off, something many people forget to do:







Crank in and torqued, turns nicely so that was a relief!



New Keyway:



Pistons in:





E21 oil pump rebuilt and shimmed with 2002 pick up pipe, new pulley and locking tab installed:





Chain and guides on:



Front cover, water pump, crank pulley etc all fitted as well as that lovely flywheel:







Then time for the baffled sump that my dad kindly painted for me, also has oil temp boss in it with m22 to 1/8 NPT reducer:





In line with the car patiently waiting:



Next update will hopefully be with the boot finished up and fuel tank in properly then onto the gearbox build!

Thanks for reading,

Scott

EddyBee

241 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Looking good Scott!

You'll be done before me at this rate!


e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Looks great Scott. (Great Scott!!? Sorry. rolleyes )

Car is looking great.

Hopefully once done you'll come on one of the 02 runs or maybe Llandau for a track day? The 02 crowd are a good bunch as you may well have found out already? James @ JFi is a friend and genuinely nice guy.

I'm sure your e21 seats will sell quickly should you decide to part with them. In fact, I probably know someone for them. Anyway, look forward to updates.

Mark smile

mumbojumbo1

168 posts

140 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Inspirational work. Looking great.

_Neal_

2,658 posts

218 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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mumbojumbo1 said:
Inspirational work. Looking great.
Agreed - excellent stuff, impressive skills and attention to detail.

scottos

Original Poster:

1,139 posts

123 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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EddyBee said:
Looking good Scott!

You'll be done before me at this rate!
Cheers Ed, and i doubt it but never know the way things are going!

e30m3Mark said:
Looks great Scott. (Great Scott!!? Sorry. rolleyes )

Car is looking great.

Hopefully once done you'll come on one of the 02 runs or maybe Llandau for a track day? The 02 crowd are a good bunch as you may well have found out already? James @ JFi is a friend and genuinely nice guy.

I'm sure your e21 seats will sell quickly should you decide to part with them. In fact, I probably know someone for them. Anyway, look forward to updates.

Mark smile
Thanks Mark, both of those things are on the agenda! Agreed, the community feel with these cars is great, completely cemented my decision to skint myself and do what im doing haha

James mediated the sale of this car for me/ the seller so will always be grateful for that, you can tell James does it for the cars and not the money too which is nice.

Thanks, I don't like selling things because of how most people are but if someone you know really is in need of a set and makes it an easy sale with a fair price for the both of us then i'd let them go. They are great seats but don't really fit the long term plan for the car so feel free to send them my way!

_Neal_ said:
mumbojumbo1 said:
Inspirational work. Looking great.
Agreed - excellent stuff, impressive skills and attention to detail.
Appreciate the comments from you both, i think the thread probably flatters my skill level, or good lighting haha

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Just thought you might enjoy some bedtime reading Scott. smile

http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10123...

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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What great attention to detail, and the 2002 is the best looking BMW to my eyes (along with the E21) - delicate but purposeful.

You're not a million miles from me, I'll keep my eyes open once you're on the road.

scottos

Original Poster:

1,139 posts

123 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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e30m3Mark said:
Just thought you might enjoy some bedtime reading Scott. smile

http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10123...
Cheers Mark, ill add it to the list of book marked things i need to read!

Mark Benson said:
What great attention to detail, and the 2002 is the best looking BMW to my eyes (along with the E21) - delicate but purposeful.

You're not a million miles from me, I'll keep my eyes open once you're on the road.
Thanks, im along the same lines, its certainly my favorite bmw! I see you're in Richmond, not far at all, im just up the A1 towards Durham. The competition engine builders i help out at is in Northallerton too!