BMW 2002Tii (ish)

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Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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scottos said:
Thanks, im along the same lines, its certainly my favorite bmw! I see you're in Richmond, not far at all, im just up the A1 towards Durham. The competition engine builders i help out at is in Northallerton too!
Is that the really tall guy (whose name escapes me). Had some work done there myself a few years ago.

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Mark Benson said:
Is that the really tall guy (whose name escapes me). Had some work done there myself a few years ago.
It isn't but I know of the place you mean but i'll say no more on an open forum biglaugh

If you need anything else doing in future then feel free to give me a shout and ill put you in touch with the place i help out.

Nth

359 posts

190 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Pfft, not bad I suppose hehe

unpc

2,831 posts

212 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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I had a 2002Ti back in the day with twin 40s IIRC, Martini stripes, and BBS wheels, natch. It always struggled to stay in tune for some reason and the gearbox had the same 3rd to 2nd graunch that yours had. Come to think of it, my later E21 320i had the same issue too.

I'd love another 2002 and if I did, I'd want one just like yours. The workmanship looks fab. I don't think I've driven any car with better visibility.

mumbojumbo1

168 posts

140 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Could i ask what you used to achieve the black engine block finish?

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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scottos said:
Mark Benson said:
Is that the really tall guy (whose name escapes me). Had some work done there myself a few years ago.
It isn't but I know of the place you mean but i'll say no more on an open forum biglaugh

If you need anything else doing in future then feel free to give me a shout and ill put you in touch with the place i help out.
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I'm just thinking about my next track project so will bear you in mind (although I have a house extension to pay for first).

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Nth said:
Pfft, not bad I suppose hehe
haha cheers matey, hope you've settled in further ooop norf!

unpc said:
I had a 2002Ti back in the day with twin 40s IIRC, Martini stripes, and BBS wheels, natch. It always struggled to stay in tune for some reason and the gearbox had the same 3rd to 2nd graunch that yours had. Come to think of it, my later E21 320i had the same issue too.

I'd love another 2002 and if I did, I'd want one just like yours. The workmanship looks fab. I don't think I've driven any car with better visibility.
Sounds interesting, dont suppose you've any old pictures? Bet it sounded great on the twin 40's? I love the idea of carbs but just dont trust them thus the idea of jenvey throttle bodies!

Did your 2002 have the optional dogleg 5 speed? They have the old style porsche baulk rings which by all accounts are a little 'fussy'. Mines yet to be rebuilt but have all new baulk rings and gears 2-5, an expensive do but this gearbox is an important feature for me.

Appreciate the kind words, i've never driven one so ill have to take your word for it!

mumbojumbo1 said:
Could i ask what you used to achieve the black engine block finish?
Sure, im ashamed to say i was lazy and used this stuff from halfords! I was dubious but the stuff is great, goes on really well and dries smooth. Satin is my favorite finish but there's matt and gloss too and red if that's your sort of thing.

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repai...

Mark Benson said:
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I'm just thinking about my next track project so will bear you in mind (although I have a house extension to pay for first).
I'm a desk waller in my full time job and purely go there because i enjoy it so safe to say i make no money from recommending them and purely do so because they are genuinely awesome with engines. Im new to the house owning but can see it will take up all of my funds in the future too!

Liggle

280 posts

100 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Car looking great mate, I loved the pics on FB!

mumbojumbo1

168 posts

140 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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Cheers, its often the simplest solutions that work best

Mark Benson

7,498 posts

268 months

Friday 1st September 2017
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scottos said:
I'm a desk waller in my full time job and purely go there because i enjoy it so safe to say i make no money from recommending them and purely do so because they are genuinely awesome with engines. Im new to the house owning but can see it will take up all of my funds in the future too!
My advice: Finish the 2002 before you do anything to the house.
I used to have several car projects on the go, then I bought a house (late, I was 33 when I bought my first one - see aforementioned car projects) and the last project was never finished. Now, 14 years later I'm really only just getting back to where I can do 'car stuff' as often as I'd like to.

Smokin Donut

273 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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This is going to be awesome when done. Nearly pulled the trigger on one of these but the wife didn't like the look so no go. Guess I'll have to enjoy reading about yours getting built up instead.

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Mark Benson said:
My advice: Finish the 2002 before you do anything to the house.
I used to have several car projects on the go, then I bought a house (late, I was 33 when I bought my first one - see aforementioned car projects) and the last project was never finished. Now, 14 years later I'm really only just getting back to where I can do 'car stuff' as often as I'd like to.
Finishing this is quite high up on priorities, rightly or wrongly! (Before marriage, kids etc! Luckily i've taken the plunge young enough that this is feasible and makes sense in man maths terms and i have an understanding missus!)

Smokin Donut said:
This is going to be awesome when done. Nearly pulled the trigger on one of these but the wife didn't like the look so no go. Guess I'll have to enjoy reading about yours getting built up instead.
Thanks! They are supposed to be ridiculously fun to drive so i really cant wait, i sure hope it will be awesome!

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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A little more progress. I mentioned previously my dad had painted my sump for me, I also had my fuel tank soda blasted so he kindly painted that for me too. I had a boss welded in for the fuel return as my car came with a carb tank instead of the Tii one. With the fuel fitting in the boss it sits a little proud but it’s not too much a cause for concern.

I also snapped the pipe on the old fuel pick-up/ sender unit so I bought a repaired one and the fella who I bought the car from kindly sent me a spare that he had, much appreciated. I fitted that with a new o-ring and installed some heat reflective tape I had for where the rear silencer gets rather close to the tank.







I bought some sticky back foam tank lining from wallothnesch and installed that. Because the tank is a carb one, the securing holes are different for 3 out of the 5 holes so I had to rivnut these but now the tank is properly secured. Also bought a new rubber filler neck/ gaske arrangement and a lockable petrol cap. Tank in:












I need to get some smaller bolts but the longer ones did a great job of installing the tank with the foam at its original height, without risk of me stripping threads etc. Now the foam is compressed ill just swap the bolts over with shorter ones, 1 by 1.

To finish the install at the rear I need those shorter bolts and a 6mm to 8mm fuel hose connector and a small length of 6mm hose and I can get all the hose clips on and tightened up. The hard line to the front is already in, as is the return. I’m also going to carpet the small section of the boot at the rear that is body colour, underneath the swirl pot arrangement but I need my new battery/ battery bracket to show up before I can do that.
I also popped into my friends garage (A Local German specialist that builds/ looks after/ repairs some high quality cars, mainly 911’s) to borrow a slim 30mm socket so I could torque up the crank pulley nut, the new pulley with integrated trigger wheel wouldn’t allow the socket I have inside! My friend also helped with the initial stripping of my gearbox so whilst in there I grabbed my input shaft so I could fit my clutch. Pics below:







That’s about it for now, hopefully we’ll get the gearbox back together at some point soon and my cylinder head might get started…

mumbojumbo1

168 posts

140 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Can i ask what tool you used to centre the clutch to the flywheel?

unpc

2,831 posts

212 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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scottos said:
unpc said:
I had a 2002Ti back in the day with twin 40s IIRC, Martini stripes, and BBS wheels, natch. It always struggled to stay in tune for some reason and the gearbox had the same 3rd to 2nd graunch that yours had. Come to think of it, my later E21 320i had the same issue too.

I'd love another 2002 and if I did, I'd want one just like yours. The workmanship looks fab. I don't think I've driven any car with better visibility.
Sounds interesting, dont suppose you've any old pictures? Bet it sounded great on the twin 40's? I love the idea of carbs but just dont trust them thus the idea of jenvey throttle bodies!

Did your 2002 have the optional dogleg 5 speed? They have the old style porsche baulk rings which by all accounts are a little 'fussy'. Mines yet to be rebuilt but have all new baulk rings and gears 2-5, an expensive do but this gearbox is an important feature for me.

Appreciate the kind words, i've never driven one so ill have to take your word for it!
I don't have any pictures of any of my cars going back that far unfortunately but yes it did sound good on the 40s but was a pig most of the time. Mine had a conventional H pattern box.

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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mumbojumbo1 said:
Can i ask what tool you used to centre the clutch to the flywheel?
It's the input shaft from my gearbox which, for that job, was handily in pieces :P

unpc said:
I don't have any pictures of any of my cars going back that far unfortunately but yes it did sound good on the 40s but was a pig most of the time. Mine had a conventional H pattern box.
Thats a shame, would have been good to see!

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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My battery, cage and m6 female to post mount adapters arrived yesterday and it was a rare night where I was able to spend it in the garage! Box of contents that showed up at work:



Thought I’d weight the new and old and was pleasantly surprised, I knew the old one was a big old beast but not this heavy! So overall a nice 12kg saving.





Bit of a mock up:



Some drilling, Riv-nutting later (lots of sweating, drilling into the thing makes me stupidly anxious!) and amateur carpeting later:





I’d bought a big roll of automotive felt backed carpet off ebay along with two cans of carpet glue. It was my first experience of carpet glue so I’ll treat it with a little more respect next time, that stuff is STICKY! Sometime next year when ill hopefully have a cage in ill use the rest to carpet out the rear.

I also bought a 3/4 pressed plate off ebay and got that on. I’ve got the full size one for MOT’s but with that fitted it blocks off the vent in the airdam and I think this is where I’ll fit my oil cooler when I get around to ordering one.







Thanks for reading,

Scott

Resolutionary

1,253 posts

170 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Much to my personal detriment I appear to have missed this thread until now. Excellent work - thanks for sharing, look forward to the progress!

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Wednesday 6th September 2017
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Be prepared for the onslaught of ''illegal plate'' PH comments. hehe

scottos

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1,138 posts

123 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Resolutionary said:
Much to my personal detriment I appear to have missed this thread until now. Excellent work - thanks for sharing, look forward to the progress!
Thanks for checking it out and thanks for the kind words!

e30m3Mark said:
Be prepared for the onslaught of ''illegal plate'' PH comments. hehe
haha i know im inviting such comments but it was that or a stick on one, either off to the side and lower on the airdam or on the bonnet, neither of which i like!