Got myself an SVR, say hello to a British hotrod/muscle car

Got myself an SVR, say hello to a British hotrod/muscle car

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Greshamst

2,051 posts

120 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Great purchase, lucky you!

I'd read about the panel alignment problems, and also window scratches as a common problem on the f-types.

I'm looking to get a v6 coupe in the next few months. Only problem is I want the side skirts (as seen on your SVR) but they only came as a 'design pack' option on the v6, and don't appear to be something you can add on aftermarket.

Love the beefy design of the SVR styling.

MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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Greshamst said:
Great purchase, lucky you!

I'd read about the panel alignment problems, and also window scratches as a common problem on the f-types.

I'm looking to get a v6 coupe in the next few months. Only problem is I want the side skirts (as seen on your SVR) but they only came as a 'design pack' option on the v6, and don't appear to be something you can add on aftermarket.

Love the beefy design of the SVR styling.
https://www.jaguar.co.uk/Images/F-TYPE_accessory_brochure_tcm91-254329.pdf

http://gear.jaguar.com/gb/en/f-type/exterior/exter...

Edited by MellowshipSlinky on Tuesday 2nd January 17:37

Greshamst

2,051 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
That is very useful, thank you!! I'm off to go look at some v6 non design pack now, save myself a few pennies!

Northern.N

201 posts

140 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Gibbo205 said:
there is a correct method of opening and closing which if you were not aware you'd mess it up.
Not heard of this either? Mind sharing please?

MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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To close it, you should push on the bonnet vents with equal force each side or else there’s a chance it can twist.

Gibbo205

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3,545 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
To close it, you should push on the bonnet vents with equal force each side or else there’s a chance it can twist.
This is indeed correct.

My trip to work is 11 miles and consist of some small town driving, country roads and dual carriage way blast with traffic generally OK. So far on this trip I have managed:
- Worse: 8.1mpg
- Best: 21.3mpg

Of course on my worse journey it was dry and roads were clear so once warmed up I drove like it was a lap of the ring. biggrin

But if you just drive normal the car is impressively economical for its engine size and power on tap, which is no doubt due to the ZF8 automatic box, though I have discovered using the paddles even when just driving gently keeping it in high gears does improve the economy slightly.

The engine is super responsive, it pulls hard from 1000rpm and does not really die off until 6500rpm, so in that respect it is impressive and the throttle response and how savage it is purely addictive and everytime I smile or giggle like a girl, especially when you lift of and the theatre of gun shots, explosions, burps, gargles fire at the four quad tips. biggrin

MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Dynamic mode with the gear shift in Sport and using the paddles - what a laugh!

I also found that in dynamic / sport and not using the paddles, it sounds awesome when slowing down hard on the brakes - it drops down through the gears with some lovely noises.

So childish.... biggrin

Gibbo205

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3,545 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Hi there


So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.

As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:







I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.

Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.

I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.


P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.

P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale. smile

Edited by Gibbo205 on Friday 5th January 23:03

Mr Moley

527 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Not normally a huge fan of Jags but absolutely love this!

Am in both awe and amusement at your attention to detail re the shut lines cool

KungFuPanda

4,330 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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What a coincidence. My friend just picked up a set of those exact same wheels from Jaguar in Bolton. I was surprised at how cheap they were.

Gibbo205

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3,545 posts

207 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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KungFuPanda said:
What a coincidence. My friend just picked up a set of those exact same wheels from Jaguar in Bolton. I was surprised at how cheap they were.
Well they are £3000 from Jaguar new as I believe they are forged and lighter than the rest of the Jaguar wheels for SVR.

But this set was removed from a brand new showroom car as the customer buying wanted gloss black, so these were removed and then became aged stock, so I got them for a 3rd of that price and essentially they have zero miles, just being on a car in showroom on display and then removed.

Bargain really.

I am now selling my gloss black ones, tyres and sensors as shall just fit new tyres and sensors to these. smile

MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Gibbo - have you any idea of the colour code for these wheels?

Gibbo205

Original Poster:

3,545 posts

207 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Gibbo - have you any idea of the colour code for these wheels?
I do not I am afraid, its like a satin grey as they are not gloss but also not a full matt, will certainly stay cleaner than gloss black that is for sure.

MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Cheers
If you ever happen to find out...

I had my Boxster Spyder wheels done in satin platinum - was probably the easiest finish to look after on any wheel I’ve had.
Satin finishes seem very robust compared to gloss - guess you don’t see scratches as easily especially on grey satin.

5harp3y

1,942 posts

199 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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stunning car

the only thing for me on modern jags that needs changing is removal of the 'Jaguar' badging and just have the cat

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

162 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Can it do a four wheel burnout?

Gibbo205

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3,545 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Hi there


Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:




Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.


Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also. smile







Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.

Gibbo205

Original Poster:

3,545 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Hi there

So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches. smile


Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
















Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.


Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory. smile

No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first. smile

Gibbo205

Original Poster:

3,545 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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I removed near new Pzero "PZ4" J spec from my SVR as on all my cars which alarmingly came fitted with Pzero form factory all had unpredictable handling and in the RWD 911 and Mustang made them almost frightening.

In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.

On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.

Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.


Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.

My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.

On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.

Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.

In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.

I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.

On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.

In short Michelin>Pirelli !!

My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.

Gibbo205

Original Poster:

3,545 posts

207 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Hi there

So gone from this today:



















It was a good looking car but for me I disliked the gloss black wheels and red calipers, as such I've changed both to a colour combination which suits me better. I also did small details like changing the wheel nuts from chrome to black and the wheel centre caps from red to black/chrome.

















Really happy with the result, cocked up a little on the logo as did not centre it perfectly which was a bit of a boo boo, but once the wheel was on the car cannot really tell. For now left rears blank with no logo at all, might add something or may just not bother. Was hoping to just add "SVR" to them but can only find "R" logos.

Also when I joined the M1 this morning I got flashed twice, assuming a camera but upon looking down I was only doing 78mph so seems they have cranked up the sensitivity, shall see if I get a summons as the overhead gantries were not illuminated. frown

Also polished to remove swirls from the carbon parts and added a protective ceramic coating. All that is left now is a paint correction on the painted body parts and seal. Also trip their I averaged 31mpg for whole 150 miles and return journey was a door to door average of 35mpg which I am impressed by as there was quite some heavy traffic so parked on motorway. 300 miles and still just over a quarter of tank left, not bad for 600HP near as dammit. smile