1983 Ford Sierra BASE (Poverty/UN Spec)

1983 Ford Sierra BASE (Poverty/UN Spec)

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marksx

5,052 posts

190 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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How have I missed this thread?

What a fantastic car to own!



Max M4X WW

4,795 posts

182 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Love the car, I have a similar base model Ford (well its a Quartz, which has delights such as a rear wiper and sunroof but that's about it) so I do like a non XR/RS/etc Ford!

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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BorniteIdentity said:
politeperson said:
When I was doing my City and Guilds, my mechanical tutor at the Colchester Institure in 1990 (Keith Essam) used to work for Ford in the 70s and 80s (or Fords as everyone used to say).

He told me the story of a couple of hundred brand new early Sierras parked on the key side at the docks (Harwich?) for 6 years until they rotted away.

Their was some problem with water ingress and rust proofing on the very early cars from the factory leading to seam corrosion and rejection of large numbers of vehicles which were supposed to be scrapped.

In fact in the mid nineties I remember attending closed Ford Auctions at BCA (Measham) where hundreds of 2/3 year old Fords that had been bought back by the company under warranty were sold back into the trade with "water seam ingress". They hadn't learnt their lesson!

It is amazing this beauty has survived.
I can well believe it, although my experience has been the opposite.

In 2016, three weeks after I bought this car, I also had another Sierra. That is still on the road and believed to be the oldest one still in existence in the UK (Oct 1982 reg). That was absolutely rock solid underneath too. So much so we checked both the VINS and, amazingly, they were Dagenham built.
I do remember the ‘Doom’ cars ( D-reg for Doom ) from about 86 onwards when they switched to recycled steel panels to save money
They were terrible for rotting within a couple of years but they sorted that in the end.

I had a B-reg and it was a solid old thing ....well at least lasted till the late 90s without welding. Did waxoyl it thoroughly when I got it at about 10 years old though ( like all my cars back then )

BorniteIdentity

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1,055 posts

130 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Progress today has been good. Got it started, brakes freed, heater matrix flushed (we now have heat again) and the indicator re-awoken. I think we’re ready for an MOT!


LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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I’d love to see the look on the tester’s face when you turn up with it smile

Levin

2,025 posts

124 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Last night, fuelled by an inability to fall asleep, I went digging - and I found evidence at least one other Sierra Base existed at some point in time.



CUE 383Y featured in an episode of Casualty but has been long dead. It also appears to have had some fog lights fitted, making it less Base and maybe a little less cool.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Levin said:
Last night, fuelled by an inability to fall asleep, I went digging - and I found evidence at least one other Sierra Base existed at some point in time.



CUE 383Y featured in an episode of Casualty but has been long dead. It also appears to have had some fog lights fitted, making it less Base and maybe a little less cool.
Good spot

That’s a really early one in Coral

BorniteIdentity

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1,055 posts

130 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Small update. After an aborted attempt in late February, a small amount of titivating and prep saw me taking it for an MOT test on Thursday just gone; the fifth anniversary of me collecting it.



Good news all round! Three advisories, one which I knew about (the petrol tank being a bit rusty) and two I think may have been a bit overzealous (brake pipe and exhaust blowing). Notwithstanding, I now have a short list of jobs for 2021.

Here’s to another year of lowering the tone and ruining any view at any given moment.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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I love this!

Fond memories of my same year 1.6L although it did have a body coloured grille (with grey bumpers) and a set of wheel trims. The thoughtful first owner had also sprung for the optional 5 speed ‘box.

Always have a lot of love for a Sierra.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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s m said:
Yes love the updates

As for the 2 litre n/a ones, the one I really like was the 2.0iS

They went well




Of course the 2-litre turbo ones were another level altogether
My uncle bought a red 2.0iS new in 1986. Lovely car and felt like a rocket ship compared with the stuff I was used to.

Striking thing about those specs is the kerb weight. 971kg! Comfortably over half a tonne lighter than any modern equivalent.

105.4

4,081 posts

71 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Another big fan of the early Sierras here and your BASE is truly lovely.

If I saw that parked on one side of the road and the latest Ferrari Whatever parked on the other, I’d be peering through the windows of your Sierra.

My Dad owned from new a very early 1982 Sierra 1.3L 3 door in Polar White. My Grandad owned an early 2.0 Ghia in brown, and my Uncle owned a 1986 XR4i in Moonstone Grey.

Yours is a minter. I hope it stays that way.

BorniteIdentity

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1,055 posts

130 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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[quote=105.4

Yours is a minter. I hope it stays that way.
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Hmmph. I constantly correct people on this one. It's really not, and that's why I love it. The drivers door has been kicked in, and a mouse could easily get through the now missing part of the door bottom. Same offside rear. There's a hole into the boot behind the reg plate and the nearside rear quarterlight isn't water tight either. The dash is cracked to buggery, there's mould on the grab handles and the parcel shelf literally decomposed.

I like it because it wears its age with pride.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Limpet said:
s m said:
Yes love the updates

As for the 2 litre n/a ones, the one I really like was the 2.0iS

They went well




Of course the 2-litre turbo ones were another level altogether
My uncle bought a red 2.0iS new in 1986. Lovely car and felt like a rocket ship compared with the stuff I was used to.

Striking thing about those specs is the kerb weight. 971kg! Comfortably over half a tonne lighter than any modern equivalent.
They are pretty light considering their size - you only have to drive something like a newer 3-series to feel how much lighter/on their toes they are

Pieman68

4,264 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Love it

One of my best mates is obsessed with Sierras and has had 18 in total

He rallied a 2.0 with a turbo technics conversion, and then built a cossie to rally

Road cars he's had everything from the 1.3 (glacial) to a sapphire cossie. XR4i, XR 4x4, and pretty much everything in between

He currently has a Y reg 2.0 Ghia and an F reg sapphire cosworth sat in his garage (both runners). He reckons he has another 3 in parts in there somewhere (he's a proper hoarder - still has his original Raleigh Burner in there as well)

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th April 2021
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Limpet said:
My uncle bought a red 2.0iS new in 1986. Lovely car and felt like a rocket ship compared with the stuff I was used to.

Striking thing about those specs is the kerb weight. 971kg! Comfortably over half a tonne lighter than any modern equivalent.
My "modern equivalent" (ish) 2.0 diesel Mondeo is 1707kg!

techguyone

3,137 posts

142 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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When the EV's get properly going, you can likely add another 500 KG to that smile

pti

1,698 posts

144 months

Friday 9th April 2021
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Genuinely one of my favourite cars on PH smile

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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techguyone said:
When the EV's get properly going, you can likely add another 500 KG to that smile
I think an iD.4 is something like 2100kg

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Pieman68 said:
Love it

One of my best mates is obsessed with Sierras and has had 18 in total
I always find it quite amusing when they do these group tests/comparisons of the best M3 through the years.......and 95% of the time they decide the best M3 of all times was the ..................E30 M3.


And then you remember on road and track it had to invariably take second place..........to a Ford Sierra!



Touring442

3,096 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Look at him , basking in admiration with that self satisfied look.