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cerb4.5lee said:
InductionRoar said:
Z4Ms can be driven economically.
23mpg was about the norm for me in mine, and that wasn't bad I thought, because I only got 26mpg out of my E90 330i for a lot less performance. 
(I may have been enjoying the performance a little more than usual.)
Looks great, I’ve got a Z4M but went through a similar thought process weighing up the Si ca the M. It’s a great value proposition.
For Bluetooth I have a kit made by GROM that plugs into the OEM setup. Finding it was a bit more complex for mine as the car has a DSP optional stereo which needed an extra adapter, but it was easy enough to install.
For Bluetooth I have a kit made by GROM that plugs into the OEM setup. Finding it was a bit more complex for mine as the car has a DSP optional stereo which needed an extra adapter, but it was easy enough to install.
Mr Tidy said:
That's only because you've moved over to diseasels! 
My Z4Coupe is showing 42.4 mph and 33.6 mpg averages on the OBC - works for me!
It's a nice engine, spoilt a little by the throttle response. Quite a bit of lag in the electronic throttle. Very slack response in normal then the same delay, but over a short travel in sport mode. Annoyingly the map on a 330i N52 is somewhere in between and better for it. As is the ride, hydraulic steering, handling..My Z4Coupe is showing 42.4 mph and 33.6 mpg averages on the OBC - works for me!
Although there is still some lag, the S54 throttle response is on another level.
TwoStrokeNut said:
It's a nice engine, spoilt a little by the throttle response. Quite a bit of lag in the electronic throttle. Very slack response in normal then the same delay, but over a short travel in sport mode. Annoyingly the map on a 330i N52 is somewhere in between and better for it. As is the ride, hydraulic steering, handling..
Although there is still some lag, the S54 throttle response is on another level.
Nice car OP!Although there is still some lag, the S54 throttle response is on another level.
Agreed on the throttle response, it really is bad.
My next one will be an z4m it supposedly sorts out most of the standard cars issues i.e LSD, throttle response, hydraulic steering. Although unfortunately its still a bit of a bus.
Lovely
Have a Z4 myself albeit the 230hp model as I was a cheap skate. I am on none-run flats and the ride itself is not that bad in my opinion.
Only averaging around 27mpg and 35mpg on a run but I gather these later cars add about 5mpg to those figures.
If the roof motor fails at any point they is chap near Liverpool that relocates and fixes them for £100.
Have a Z4 myself albeit the 230hp model as I was a cheap skate. I am on none-run flats and the ride itself is not that bad in my opinion.
Only averaging around 27mpg and 35mpg on a run but I gather these later cars add about 5mpg to those figures.
If the roof motor fails at any point they is chap near Liverpool that relocates and fixes them for £100.
TwoStrokeNut said:
It's a nice engine, spoilt a little by the throttle response. Quite a bit of lag in the electronic throttle. Very slack response in normal then the same delay, but over a short travel in sport mode. Annoyingly the map on a 330i N52 is somewhere in between and better for it. As is the ride, hydraulic steering, handling..
Although there is still some lag, the S54 throttle response is on another level.
I don't have an issue with throttle response, but then my Z4 Coupe has a 3 litre N52 - which 330i are you referring to?Although there is still some lag, the S54 throttle response is on another level.
E9* model presumably. I have an E91 325i as a daily and find it very laggy and over-geared, although the HPAS is better, but the handling is nowhere near as good as my E86.
An S54 throttle response should be on another level - it cost (and still does) quite a bit more!
greggy50 said:
Lovely
Have a Z4 myself albeit the 230hp model as I was a cheap skate. I am on none-run flats and the ride itself is not that bad in my opinion.
Only averaging around 27mpg and 35mpg on a run but I gather these later cars add about 5mpg to those figures.
If the roof motor fails at any point they is chap near Liverpool that relocates and fixes them for £100.
Nothing wrong with the 230 bhp option! Have a Z4 myself albeit the 230hp model as I was a cheap skate. I am on none-run flats and the ride itself is not that bad in my opinion.
Only averaging around 27mpg and 35mpg on a run but I gather these later cars add about 5mpg to those figures.
If the roof motor fails at any point they is chap near Liverpool that relocates and fixes them for £100.
I think the chap you are thinking of is Mike (aka ducklakeview) on the Z4forum, but there are 4 or 5 others around the country that do the same. But it might be better (and cheaper) to get the roof motor moved into the boot before it dies!
Mr Tidy said:
Nothing wrong with the 230 bhp option!
Agreed! It might actually be the smartest choice - im making a little list of preventative maintenance jobs, and im discovering all the parts for the N52 are far more costly than than the older M54. Water pump, for example £230 vs £30.The older 3 litre Z4's, might be a bit of a bargain, if you think about running costs too
Mr Tidy said:
I don't have an issue with throttle response, but then my Z4 Coupe has a 3 litre N52 - which 330i are you referring to?
E9* model presumably. I have an E91 325i as a daily and find it very laggy and over-geared, although the HPAS is better, but the handling is nowhere near as good as my E86.
An S54 throttle response should be on another level - it cost (and still does) quite a bit more!
An N52 330i M Sport manual saloon. Drive them back to back and the 3 series is superior dynamically, road or track. I had one as a stop gap between zeds and had to admit it was better in almost all areas, even at Brands GP when used as a stop gap. The reviews at the time had it as the clear class leader, which it was.E9* model presumably. I have an E91 325i as a daily and find it very laggy and over-geared, although the HPAS is better, but the handling is nowhere near as good as my E86.
An S54 throttle response should be on another level - it cost (and still does) quite a bit more!
On a back road that I drive frequently, in the Z4 Coupe you could feel zero through the steering, it would skip and cut power over minor bumps and then be quite awkward to heel and toe. The 3 series flowed brilliantly along the same road with more traction, less roll, lovely steering and a reasonable ride. The throttle was less annoying too.
A bit disappointing when you are comparing a sports car to the mini cab from the same BMW stable.
TwoStrokeNut said:
An N52 330i M Sport manual saloon. Drive them back to back and the 3 series is superior dynamically, road or track. I had one as a stop gap between zeds and had to admit it was better in almost all areas, even at Brands GP when used as a stop gap. The reviews at the time had it as the clear class leader, which it was.
On a back road that I drive frequently, in the Z4 Coupe you could feel zero through the steering, it would skip and cut power over minor bumps and then be quite awkward to heel and toe. The 3 series flowed brilliantly along the same road with more traction, less roll, lovely steering and a reasonable ride. The throttle was less annoying too.
A bit disappointing when you are comparing a sports car to the mini cab from the same BMW stable.
This has always fascinated me aswell that BMW can make some very highly regarded saloons...but make such a pigs ear of the Z4. My Z4M was a mess to drive in comparison to the E9x's I've had. On a back road that I drive frequently, in the Z4 Coupe you could feel zero through the steering, it would skip and cut power over minor bumps and then be quite awkward to heel and toe. The 3 series flowed brilliantly along the same road with more traction, less roll, lovely steering and a reasonable ride. The throttle was less annoying too.
A bit disappointing when you are comparing a sports car to the mini cab from the same BMW stable.
Thanks for pointing out what a terrible car i've bought guys! 
Thanks to a puncture, i've switched the rears out to non-runflats today, and the ride has improved significantly. What I thought was bump steer from the rear, was just the runflats being too stiff over potholes. Runflats are the devils work!
Oh and quite randomly, glass from one of the wing mirrors fell out yesterday. Im also going to blame that on runflats
Thanks to a puncture, i've switched the rears out to non-runflats today, and the ride has improved significantly. What I thought was bump steer from the rear, was just the runflats being too stiff over potholes. Runflats are the devils work!
Oh and quite randomly, glass from one of the wing mirrors fell out yesterday. Im also going to blame that on runflats
I did think its not really the thread for me to go on my usual boring rants!! Sorry. 
TwoStrokeNut said:
An N52 330i M Sport manual saloon. Drive them back to back and the 3 series is superior dynamically, road or track. I had one as a stop gap between zeds and had to admit it was better in almost all areas, even at Brands GP when used as a stop gap. The reviews at the time had it as the clear class leader, which it was.
On a back road that I drive frequently, in the Z4 Coupe you could feel zero through the steering, it would skip and cut power over minor bumps and then be quite awkward to heel and toe. The 3 series flowed brilliantly along the same road with more traction, less roll, lovely steering and a reasonable ride. The throttle was less annoying too.
A bit disappointing when you are comparing a sports car to the mini cab from the same BMW stable.
Very interesting! On a back road that I drive frequently, in the Z4 Coupe you could feel zero through the steering, it would skip and cut power over minor bumps and then be quite awkward to heel and toe. The 3 series flowed brilliantly along the same road with more traction, less roll, lovely steering and a reasonable ride. The throttle was less annoying too.
A bit disappointing when you are comparing a sports car to the mini cab from the same BMW stable.
I had a 123 "Dynamic" so M-Sport suspension, but my E46 325ti Sport would have run rings around it!
Then I got a Z4 Coupe and it felt like it was a league ahead, until there were some bumps and then the TC light would illuminate more often than I'd like.
But on normal roads my current E91 325i SE feels very good, coping with bumps in corners really well and the HPAS is really good!
Hopefully getting my Z4C onto non-RFTs will help - time will tell!
Fordo said:
Thanks for pointing out what a terrible car i've bought guys!
Thanks to a puncture, i've switched the rears out to non-runflats today, and the ride has improved significantly. What I thought was bump steer from the rear, was just the runflats being too stiff over potholes. Runflats are the devils work!
Oh and quite randomly, glass from one of the wing mirrors fell out yesterday. Im also going to blame that on runflats
It's a lovely car, definitely one of the picks from the range. Enjoy that lovely engine and roof down motoring!Thanks to a puncture, i've switched the rears out to non-runflats today, and the ride has improved significantly. What I thought was bump steer from the rear, was just the runflats being too stiff over potholes. Runflats are the devils work!
Oh and quite randomly, glass from one of the wing mirrors fell out yesterday. Im also going to blame that on runflats
Fordo said:
Oh and quite randomly, glass from one of the wing mirrors fell out yesterday. Im also going to blame that on runflats
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