Sauber C30 / Heritage HF1-018. Warning: F1 Car Content :)

Sauber C30 / Heritage HF1-018. Warning: F1 Car Content :)

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poppopbangbang

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1,828 posts

141 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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DRCAGE said:
Looking good! Particularly that rear wing mount!

And the way the rear wing mount handled the mid air excursion, wow!

Great rear wing mount you got there smile
It is an epic rear wing mount, definitely the best rear wing mount ever.

I've never seen a better rear wing mount!

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poppopbangbang

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1,828 posts

141 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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DanielSan said:
How much does a landing in an F1 car hurt on a scale of 1- Oh Christ my arse is ruined!
Elbows and knees always take the most damage!

DRCAGE

499 posts

165 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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Woody John

759 posts

73 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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poppopbangbang said:
scottos said:
Awesome! Any pics of the engine/ powertrain?
No beauty shots yet as it's literally only just been finished but here's a couple from build/first fire up.





Any info on that Jordan?

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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poppopbangbang said:
Elbows and knees always take the most damage!
I’m not sure if that’s better or worse, bashing the crap out of any joint isn’t much fun.

loudlashadjuster

5,106 posts

184 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Sublime stuff as usual, PPBB thumbup

thirstyC55

3 posts

71 months

Sunday 3rd June 2018
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Excuse the hopefully very light thread jack, as this is pretty incredible here, but PPBB, I have been hoping to get in touch with you but unfortunately can't PM. You, or someone with your same username, though I think it was you posted a solution to a MB C55 consuming 1L oil / 750 miles. I'm having the exact same problem. Great power, no CELs, passed one of the strictest emissions tests in the world, rarely but sometimes smoking on startup, but extreme consumption.

Your solution - "Replaceing this breather hose along with cleaning and flushing the two smaller breathers and resealing the leaking throttle/breather seal resulted in a crank case pressure reading at idle of -4mbar and on blip a reading of similar - zero."

Having just done 60 miles in it according to the dash it has used no oil and certainly feels a bit sharper.

Will update if this has solved it once a few more miles are on the clock!

I can see why you didn't post an update smile but can you say if this solution proved true long term?

Thanks so much.

poppopbangbang

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1,828 posts

141 months

Sunday 3rd June 2018
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thirstyC55 said:
Excuse the hopefully very light thread jack, as this is pretty incredible here, but PPBB, I have been hoping to get in touch with you but unfortunately can't PM. You, or someone with your same username, though I think it was you posted a solution to a MB C55 consuming 1L oil / 750 miles. I'm having the exact same problem. Great power, no CELs, passed one of the strictest emissions tests in the world, rarely but sometimes smoking on startup, but extreme consumption.

Your solution - "Replaceing this breather hose along with cleaning and flushing the two smaller breathers and resealing the leaking throttle/breather seal resulted in a crank case pressure reading at idle of -4mbar and on blip a reading of similar - zero."

Having just done 60 miles in it according to the dash it has used no oil and certainly feels a bit sharper.

Will update if this has solved it once a few more miles are on the clock!

I can see why you didn't post an update smile but can you say if this solution proved true long term?

Thanks so much.
Yes it worked. Essentially the issue is the crank case breathers get blocked, leading to the crank case becoming pressurised which in turn reduces the efficiency of the oil control rings leading to high oil consumption.

Leak down test it first as there is also a similar issue due to worn rings but if the leak down shows them all similar and healthy it's very likely to be this.

thirstyC55

3 posts

71 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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bowbowbowbowbowbow

Thanks so much man! I've really been kicking my brain around this.

foz01

767 posts

263 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Great stuff, is the engine a 1.8/2.0 unit?

BaronVonVaderham

2,317 posts

147 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Amazing stuff!

Do you think the car could make it round the IOM TT course?

poppopbangbang

Original Poster:

1,828 posts

141 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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foz01 said:
Great stuff, is the engine a 1.8/2.0 unit?
Rounds up to 1.9 so in the middle biggrin

marsattacks

17 posts

133 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Do you use a company in Newport Essex for any of your work as I thought I saw that very car in their workshop earlier in the year or at the end of last year.

F1GTRUeno

6,353 posts

218 months

Sunday 10th June 2018
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PPBB (or anyone else on here), is there a different way of private messaging you?

Think the thing I thought was a PM is an email and I don't think the email I have for this site is the one I use anymore.

Zarco

17,813 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th June 2018
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Sure you can update the email address on your profile somehow.

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

222 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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BaronVonVaderham said:
Amazing stuff!

Do you think the car could make it round the IOM TT course?
Nah , the suspension would shatter on the first bump.

Craikeybaby

10,402 posts

225 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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Zarco said:
Sure you can update the email address on your profile somehow.
I thought you had to actually email someone...

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Monday 11th June 2018
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Any pics of the intercooler? Also is that an off the shelf GT35 or one of he R units?

Also what fuel are you currently running it on / would you need to get to the 600bhp? Guessing the motor is high comp. to minimise lag hence the need for good fuel for "only" 600bhp...

Edited by chuntington101 on Monday 11th June 22:02

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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thirstyC55 said:
Excuse the hopefully very light thread jack, as this is pretty incredible here, but PPBB, I have been hoping to get in touch with you but unfortunately can't PM. You, or someone with your same username, though I think it was you posted a solution to a MB C55 consuming 1L oil / 750 miles. I'm having the exact same problem. Great power, no CELs, passed one of the strictest emissions tests in the world, rarely but sometimes smoking on startup, but extreme consumption.

Your solution - "Replaceing this breather hose along with cleaning and flushing the two smaller breathers and resealing the leaking throttle/breather seal resulted in a crank case pressure reading at idle of -4mbar and on blip a reading of similar - zero."

Having just done 60 miles in it according to the dash it has used no oil and certainly feels a bit sharper.

Will update if this has solved it once a few more miles are on the clock!

I can see why you didn't post an update smile but can you say if this solution proved true long term?

Thanks so much.
Sorry about thread jack part two, but I also have a C55, and it's got a weeping rocker gasket, and apparently a weeping RMS, along with what seems to me to be excessive oil consumption - which looks like it's pressurising itself to me, especially given that the rocker cover was resealed less than 12 months ago.

When you say "this" breather hose, which one is it please?

poppopbangbang

Original Poster:

1,828 posts

141 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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chuntington101 said:
Any pics of the intercooler? Also is that an off the shelf GT35 or one of he R units?

Also what fuel are you currently running it on / would you need to get to the 600bhp? Guessing the motor is high comp. to minimise lag hence the need for good fuel for "only" 600bhp...
No but it's a relatively standard dual pass design with a very good quality bar and plate type turbulator core. There is a lot more we could do on end tank design to properly optimise it and I am toying with the idea of a single pass unit with nice sculpted end tanks at the moment. This is very much V1.1 right now on charge cooling as it was a case of make an intercooler fit where an ultra thin F1 water rad used to live and work from there - it's actually very good in terms of charge temp control but then it's sat at the end of a rad duct that probably cost 2 million quid and a team of 20 to develop laugh

Turbo is a GT35R but an Owens M-Spec GT35R with all the trick billet compressor wheel bits and anti surge shrouds etc.

We're using Panta Supermax at the moment as it's very knock resistance and very oxygenated.