High Class Escort (Mk2 tarmac rally car thing)

High Class Escort (Mk2 tarmac rally car thing)

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Johnnybee

2,284 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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A friend of mine builds mk1 and 2 Escorts for a living. After years of building them for other people he's finally found the time to build his own.

Here it is fresh from the body shop and ready to be built up into a road going car.



And trial fitting the engine which is a brand new Zetec with a few trick parts.



Sorry for the hijack!

Mr Tidy

22,270 posts

127 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Fantastic thread!

I'm a Venetian Red fan, but then I would be!

This was mine from 1983 to 1985 - but I sold it to fund a Capri 2.8 Injection (Escorts had all gone FWD by then)!



Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Johnnybee said:
A friend of mine builds mk1 and 2 Escorts for a living. After years of building them for other people he's finally found the time to build his own.

Here it is fresh from the body shop and ready to be built up into a road going car.



And trial fitting the engine which is a brand new Zetec with a few trick parts.



Sorry for the hijack!
That is lovely. Zetec conversions seem very popular and they're great value.

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Love the BDA-esque cam cover!

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
Fantastic thread!

I'm a Venetian Red fan, but then I would be!

This was mine from 1983 to 1985 - but I sold it to fund a Capri 2.8 Injection (Escorts had all gone FWD by then)!


Oooh that's a custom too, right?

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Slippydiff said:
10 minutes of Escort RS porn. Enjoy :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXkgh7ovMqA
Outstanding. Thanks for sharing. There is a duke film of the 2018 rally of the lakes,I recorded it on sky (motorsport TV maybe?) a wee while ago and watch it about once a week hehe

There's loads of YT footage as well of course but the duke one is pretty slick.30 minutes of tarmac spec escorts sliding around irish country roads.

I bloody love tarmac rallying, I was brought up in Duns and was at the Jim Clark Rally every year when it was on closed roads. Spectacular. Back in the 90's it was hugely popular, massive crowds on the stages. I wish rallying was still like that, i think it is in Ireland.

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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In case any escort fans missed it, this is a great thread right here on PH:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I'm going for a lower-spec, lower-budget version!

sheepdip

526 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Millington engine and running gear on ebay!

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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sheepdip said:
Millington engine and running gear on ebay!
The weird single seater racing car thing??

Baron von Teuchter

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202 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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To be honest, £15k isn't tooo bad

http://www.millingtonengines.co.uk/sales/pre-owned...

I'd be looking at £8k+ for a new duratec build

Crate duratec: £2k
Cams: £1k
Dry sump: £1k
Intake £2k
Ancillaries: £1k
ECU, loom, mapping £1k


sheepdip

526 posts

175 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Formula Classic is a bargain by the way.

Here is a link to my Escort build if you are interested
.https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1362104

M4CK 1

469 posts

127 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Baron von Teuchter said:
To be honest, £15k isn't tooo bad

http://www.millingtonengines.co.uk/sales/pre-owned...

I'd be looking at £8k+ for a new duratec build

Crate duratec: £2k
Cams: £1k
Dry sump: £1k
Intake £2k
Ancillaries: £1k
ECU, loom, mapping £1k
That looks like a nice price. I thought they went for£25k to £30k.
It would be worth every penny!!!

Baron von Teuchter

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202 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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I think a new 2.7 350bhp one is probably £40k or so. But what an engine.

That’s all well and good if you’re building a class 14 with big sponsorship in Ireland but I’m funding this myself as a toy rofl

M4CK 1

469 posts

127 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Baron von Teuchter said:
I think a new 2.7 350bhp one is probably £40k or so. But what an engine.

That’s all well and good if you’re building a class 14 with big sponsorship in Ireland but I’m funding this myself as a toy rofl
If the 2.5 is £15k. What's the 2.0 worth. Might be worth a call to millington!!!
£40k for a 2.7 and that's before you spend big money on a gearbox which can handle the powerspin

Baron von Teuchter

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Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Yeah but that’s 2nd Hand and an old-ish ad. Maybe plus vat too 😉

Nope, as much as I love the sound of them they are full-on race engines and need looked after as such. Probably need a rebuild after 5k Miles or so. Actually, I shouldn’t say that, they have an awesome reputation for reliability.

The red top was always the easy choice for 200-220bhp NA but I suspect the Duratec might overtake it. They’re cheap to buy, light and reliable. Exhaust on the wrong side though.

The basic head design is pretty good, ironically the designing-for-fuel-efficiency results in big valves and lots of scope for fairly easy tuning. TB’s and stock cams can give 200bhp on standard internals. 300 is doable but you’re into big money and race-engine logistics again.

I’ll be pretty happy with 150-160 to start with (he says).

A Caterham r500-esque 260bhp 2.0 screamer would be epic though

M4CK 1

469 posts

127 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Baron von Teuchter said:
Yeah but that’s 2nd Hand and an old-ish ad. Maybe plus vat too ??

Nope, as much as I love the sound of them they are full-on race engines and need looked after as such. Probably need a rebuild after 5k Miles or so. Actually, I shouldn’t say that, they have an awesome reputation for reliability.



The red top was always the easy choice for 200-220bhp NA but I suspect the Duratec might overtake it. They’re cheap to buy, light and reliable. Exhaust on the wrong side though.

The basic head design is pretty good, ironically the designing-for-fuel-efficiency results in big valves and lots of scope for fairly easy tuning. TB’s and stock cams can give 200bhp on standard internals. 300 is doable but you’re into big money and race-engine logistics again.

I’ll be pretty happy with 150-160 to start with (he says).

A Caterham r500-esque 260bhp 2.0 screamer would be epic though
I had a Red top in my race car I used for sprints. Very good engine. Just under 240 bhp with loads of torque low down.
The duratech I believe is all alloy, so should be pretty light as well.
The millingtons do sound superb. Screaming upto nearly 9000 rpm in a MK1/2 on a road rally, must be awesome. Oh well can only dream.drivingcloud9

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Yeah the XE is a fantastic motor by all accounts.

I think a duratec is about the same weight as a k-series, 90kg ish, including pumps, alternator and starter. I think a pinto for comparison is >150kg!

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

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Friday 24th August 2018
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sheepdip said:
Formula Classic is a bargain by the way.

Here is a link to my Escort build if you are interested
.https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1362104
Sorry, i just saw your post. Wow!!!!

turbospud

500 posts

238 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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sheepdip said:
Millington engine and running gear on ebay!
sheepdip what power and torque did it make on the rolling road

Baron von Teuchter

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16,152 posts

202 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Some more pics of the shell:

Nice big tunnel


Watts link towers:


You can see it's had a sunroof at some point. It's been quite well plated over but it's not perfect so will get a skim on top to even it all out.




Tank platform already in place but i'll need to cut out a square for a well











I've just ordered a 4 link kit and watts linkage: