2003 Jaguar XJ 4.2 V8 SE
Discussion
Trouble in paradise! CEL came on this morning, I'll have to get the code reader on it later and find out what it is. Christmas project looms.
I also suspect that at 150k the gearbox would benefit from a proper service/rebuild and I've started looking into this. Don't suppose anyone knows any actually decent auto transmission places in South Wales?
I also suspect that at 150k the gearbox would benefit from a proper service/rebuild and I've started looking into this. Don't suppose anyone knows any actually decent auto transmission places in South Wales?
dme123 said:
- Air suspension feels weird and behaves in unexpected ways over certain bumps and surfaces
- CD changer is s
t. It skips on bumps and it skips when you boot it. Not good enough in 2003, I had a DIscman with shock protection in 1994 - The V6 would be more than adequate for 90% of drivers 90% of the time
- I don't hate the grille as much as some, but given the choice I'd prefer it body coloured with mesh. I doubt very much that I'll spend money on this
- Halogen headlights are not much cop. Having spent last week with the minature suns in the XC60 I might need to address this
- The heated seats are feeble
Edited by dme123 on Sunday 25th November 11:12
The suspension doesn't respond well over short/sharp imperfctions in the road, almost skips. That's a known 'feature' apparently.
My CD changer has never, ever skipped. I assume yours is the 6 disc in the boot?
The V6 is pretty good, the only reason I would prefer a V8 is the noise, but since you say you can't hear it, maybe I won't bother!
You can buy the mesh grille inserts pretty cheaply, or you could when I bought mine. I then bought a used surround from ebay and had it sprayed.
Mine has the HID lights - I wonder if they can be retrofitted, as they are really good.
I wonder if your heated seats are fully functioning? Does the back rest heat up on yours? The reason I ask is that mine practically burn my arse on their highest setting!
LeighW said:
Just a few notes based on owning mine for five and a half years now:
The suspension doesn't respond well over short/sharp imperfctions in the road, almost skips. That's a known 'feature' apparently.
My CD changer has never, ever skipped. I assume yours is the 6 disc in the boot?
The V6 is pretty good, the only reason I would prefer a V8 is the noise, but since you say you can't hear it, maybe I won't bother!
You can buy the mesh grille inserts pretty cheaply, or you could when I bought mine. I then bought a used surround from ebay and had it sprayed.
Mine has the HID lights - I wonder if they can be retrofitted, as they are really good.
I wonder if your heated seats are fully functioning? Does the back rest heat up on yours? The reason I ask is that mine practically burn my arse on their highest setting!
It is a 6 disc in the boot and I've never had one that skips so easily so it may well be sick. I'll take it out and clean the lens and start from there.The suspension doesn't respond well over short/sharp imperfctions in the road, almost skips. That's a known 'feature' apparently.
My CD changer has never, ever skipped. I assume yours is the 6 disc in the boot?
The V6 is pretty good, the only reason I would prefer a V8 is the noise, but since you say you can't hear it, maybe I won't bother!
You can buy the mesh grille inserts pretty cheaply, or you could when I bought mine. I then bought a used surround from ebay and had it sprayed.
Mine has the HID lights - I wonder if they can be retrofitted, as they are really good.
I wonder if your heated seats are fully functioning? Does the back rest heat up on yours? The reason I ask is that mine practically burn my arse on their highest setting!
The V8 is quick, and I like the effortless torque, but aside from being a knob I think the V6 would be absolutely fine. From memory the V6 even sounds good.
I've heard that swapping to the HID lights isn't hard, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for the parts.
Heated seats definitely work on the cushion and squab. My last two daily drivers have been Volvos and I've used VIDA to turn up the heated seat temp as high as it would go, which is quite a bit hotter than the default, so I may have been spoiled.
I might sort out the grille, but first spend is going to be a proper gearbox service/rebuilt and then a suspension refresh. I can't see the grille when I'm sipping coffee in the drivers seat...
Edited by dme123 on Monday 26th November 14:29
dme123 said:
Trouble in paradise! CEL came on this morning, I'll have to get the code reader on it later and find out what it is. Christmas project looms.
I also suspect that at 150k the gearbox would benefit from a proper service/rebuild and I've started looking into this. Don't suppose anyone knows any actually decent auto transmission places in South Wales?
Not South Wales but might not be a million miles from you, Bristol Transmissions are supposed to be good and can supply a full replacement sump and filter and do a proper flush etcI also suspect that at 150k the gearbox would benefit from a proper service/rebuild and I've started looking into this. Don't suppose anyone knows any actually decent auto transmission places in South Wales?
CEL was due to code P0101 - "Mass Air Flow Circuit Range/Performance Problem"
I've cleared it and on the weekend I'll clean the MAF wire with carb cleaner and check over the intake system for leaks. Apparently it gave this error when the dealer had it and they swapped on a known good MAF, fuel trims are at basically 0% though which does suggest there isn't an intake air leak.
I've cleared it and on the weekend I'll clean the MAF wire with carb cleaner and check over the intake system for leaks. Apparently it gave this error when the dealer had it and they swapped on a known good MAF, fuel trims are at basically 0% though which does suggest there isn't an intake air leak.
Edited by dme123 on Monday 26th November 21:25
Code hasn't come back (yet), and the air suspension has stayed level while parked for several days so I think it must have levelled itself out on uneven ground the other day. Still enjoying it enormously, despite the frustration of no aux in. Now I want a few dry days so I can have a proper drive.
Wooda80 said:
I'm sure I recognise that car ( the OP's Radiance Red one ) . If you still have the service book, has it ever been into Dunham Jaguar in Stockport or Royles in Wilmslow?
Hi. Sorry, I missed this. I've gone throught the service book and it was at Rybrook Jaguar in Warrington in 2005, then serviced at an independent on Primrose Street in Manchester until 2012, and since then it's all from Tasker & Lacy.First bit of fettling today. I'd noticed that the bonnet would flutter about alarmingly on the OS, and it quickly became apparent that the catch wasn't holding. After a bit of fiddling to adjust the latch and the adjuster for the bonnet height I took the grille off to have a good poke and it turned out that a push with a finger could release the latch when it was supposed to be locked down.
I believe the cable is under slightly too much tension so the latch can't totally engage, as it doesn't seem any more worn than the NS latch. A bit of a pull to move the cable a fraction of a MM sees the latch engaging properly. It seems to be OK for a couple of engagements and then goes slack again though, I think I might need to replace the cable as it was looking a bit corroded and sad where it runs behind the grille. Bonnet now lines up better too.
Oh and I took the engine cover off to have a look.
Not working latch
Working latch (bonnet open sensor now properly in place)
Dusty engine
I believe the cable is under slightly too much tension so the latch can't totally engage, as it doesn't seem any more worn than the NS latch. A bit of a pull to move the cable a fraction of a MM sees the latch engaging properly. It seems to be OK for a couple of engagements and then goes slack again though, I think I might need to replace the cable as it was looking a bit corroded and sad where it runs behind the grille. Bonnet now lines up better too.
Oh and I took the engine cover off to have a look.
Not working latch
Working latch (bonnet open sensor now properly in place)
Dusty engine
Skipping CD's - check the stacker has been set properly. I put up with this for years in a Bimmer, maybe it's the same thing in a Jaaaag:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
OK so for future reference. Bosch pump 0392020073 is NOT a direct swap for the Jaguar electric auxilliary coolant pump (part C2C6517) for the heater and would be a PITA to modify.
With these pumps the hose connector can be very easily unscrewed from the motor and swapped, the impeller in the pump is driven magnetically so there is no chance of causing a leak by doing this. This means that if the hose connector is wrong it's no bother provided your old one isn't damaged.
The Jaguar bracket to mount the pump is just a rubbery thing and can easily be pulled off your old pump.
Pump 0392020073 has the wrong hose connectors but also has the wrong electrical connector, so the advice I had that this was a direct swap is incorrect. If you were determined to get it to work you could splice the loom or make an adaptor I suppose.
I have discovered that pump 0392020034 DOES have the right electrical connector, the right flow rates, but probably the wrong hose connector. I've ordered one for £60 and returned the other one for a refund. If this works it'll save £120 over the Jaguar part.
With these pumps the hose connector can be very easily unscrewed from the motor and swapped, the impeller in the pump is driven magnetically so there is no chance of causing a leak by doing this. This means that if the hose connector is wrong it's no bother provided your old one isn't damaged.
The Jaguar bracket to mount the pump is just a rubbery thing and can easily be pulled off your old pump.
Pump 0392020073 has the wrong hose connectors but also has the wrong electrical connector, so the advice I had that this was a direct swap is incorrect. If you were determined to get it to work you could splice the loom or make an adaptor I suppose.
I have discovered that pump 0392020034 DOES have the right electrical connector, the right flow rates, but probably the wrong hose connector. I've ordered one for £60 and returned the other one for a refund. If this works it'll save £120 over the Jaguar part.
Edited by dme123 on Monday 17th December 17:07
dme123 said:
Trouble in paradise! CEL came on this morning, I'll have to get the code reader on it later and find out what it is. Christmas project looms.
This CEL never came back, however when I was fumbling around with coolant pipes I found it was very easy to pull the air intake off the inlet manifold, it wasn't very tight at all. I suspect this may have caused a small air leak and set off the CEL for the MAF sensor.I'm still very surprised how trouble free this is being for a 150k / 15 year old barge. They really do seem to have nailed the quality and robustness with these.
dme123 said:
I'm still very surprised how trouble free this is being for a 150k / 15 year old barge. They really do seem to have nailed the quality and robustness with these.
Indeed. I sold my 54 plate 3 litre V6 petrol at 188,000 miles after 4 years of relative trouble-free motoring/ wafting.Mr dme123 Sir, your thoughts on doing without the touch screen/ sat-nav set-up?
BMW A6 said:
dme123 said:
I'm still very surprised how trouble free this is being for a 150k / 15 year old barge. They really do seem to have nailed the quality and robustness with these.
Indeed. I sold my 54 plate 3 litre V6 petrol at 188,000 miles after 4 years of relative trouble-free motoring/ wafting.Mr dme123 Sir, your thoughts on doing without the touch screen/ sat-nav set-up?
I like the screen in mine ( kind of adds to the old school feel),but the nav is hopelessly outdated and can’t be updated past 2010 ish.
sjc said:
I think with cars of this age, it’s more about maintenance and history, than kit.
I like the screen in mine ( kind of adds to the old school feel),but the nav is hopelessly outdated and can’t be updated past 2010 ish.
You can do a modification to the unit so that when you press the nav button what it basically gives you is Android auto. Useful update If you want to keep the original look I like the screen in mine ( kind of adds to the old school feel),but the nav is hopelessly outdated and can’t be updated past 2010 ish.
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