The Range Racer

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andrewrob

2,912 posts

189 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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charlie-5mkmt said:
andrewrob said:
Can't you just pull the fuses relating to the ABS system, that should knock that and traction control out? Looks amazing by the way!
We did try that and unplugging the ABS modulator, it caused the car to have a bit of a fit, gave us very limited power and locked itself in 3rd gear (some form of limp home mode) frown
Oh maybe not then!

geeks

9,121 posts

138 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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charlie-5mkmt said:
Some other things we learnt

Our seat mounts are pants. Rather wobbly and are way too high as you can see from the photos. So another job to add to the list is to get something better. So if anyone has an BMW e46 or e36 bucket seat mounts sitting the in garage then let us know (bolt spacing is the same as the range rover)
I have, can't remember if they are 36 or 46, I will have a look when I am in the shed next

charlie-5mkmt

Original Poster:

74 posts

71 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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geeks said:
I have, can't remember if they are 36 or 46, I will have a look when I am in the shed next
Top man, bolt spacing between the 36 & 46 are the same i believe so it shouldn't matter.

5harp3y

1,942 posts

198 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Absolutely love this

Usget

5,426 posts

210 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Watched the video over the weekend, I absolutely love the supercharger noise! It sounds like it's terrified of how quickly the next corner is approaching as the whine gets higher and louder - "noooOOOO!!!!!111!!1"

XJR500bhp

1,191 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st January 2020
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You need to phone Swallows Jaguar near Bristol
They have done the manual V8 conversion, they do the stand alone ECU, clutch kit the lot. They also run some similar stuff like a defender V8 supercharged which I think is manual. Ask for Tom

The Dictator

1,365 posts

139 months

Friday 13th March 2020
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SlimJim16v said:
Great photos, looks like you had a great time. It just doesn't look right though, not its natural habitat.
Isn't that pretty much the WHOLE point of doing something like this?

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

127 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Sod the Aston box and the 4.2, both of which you will end up blowing up: what you need is a Ford 5.4/5.8 Modular DOHC engine and a TR-6060 gearbox with Holley EFI to run the whole show as per Cleetus McFarland's Crown Victoria "Neighbor". The L322 engine bay certainly has room for the big quad-cam Ford, the 5.4 comes from the factory with a very conservative 500bhp, and there are a lot more performance parts (including stronger blocks) available for them. "Neighbor" was making over 900rwhp the last time it was on the dyno. If 1000+bhp wouldn't get you to your faster-than-the-SVR goal, I don't know what would...

BigRusko

291 posts

93 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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RoverP6B said:
Sod the Aston box and the 4.2, both of which you will end up blowing up: what you need is a Ford 5.4/5.8 Modular DOHC engine and a TR-6060 gearbox with Holley EFI to run the whole show as per Cleetus McFarland's Crown Victoria "Neighbor". The L322 engine bay certainly has room for the big quad-cam Ford, the 5.4 comes from the factory with a very conservative 500bhp, and there are a lot more performance parts (including stronger blocks) available for them. "Neighbor" was making over 900rwhp the last time it was on the dyno. If 1000+bhp wouldn't get you to your faster-than-the-SVR goal, I don't know what would...
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eliot

11,364 posts

253 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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I guess you need to ask around at work (you work for jlr iirc) what the torque capacity of the rear diff is, because it will no longer be sharing duty with the front diff.

Pig benis

1,071 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Any updates guys?

PB

Munter

31,319 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Pig benis said:
Any updates guys?

PB
Posted in the last few days on Facebook.

Understeer appears to be an issue.

https://www.facebook.com/274988813211477/posts/609...

CanoeSniffer

926 posts

86 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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XJR500bhp said:
You need to phone Swallows Jaguar near Bristol
They have done the manual V8 conversion, they do the stand alone ECU, clutch kit the lot. They also run some similar stuff like a defender V8 supercharged which I think is manual. Ask for Tom


And then tell him he needs to drive quicker to get the creaky 30 year old XJ40s off his tail wink

But yes, can highly recommend Swallows for making JLR products go like the clappers. They reckon they’re seeing 550hp out of their car this year after a reworking over the off season eek

CAPP0

19,532 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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charlie-5mkmt said:
So does anyone have any advice/recommendations for standalone ECU options and companies? Especially that are compatible with 8 cylinder engines and are relatively cost efficient.....
The standard answer to this question is Megasquirt, but whether that can cope with a SC engine I don't know.

e46m3c

874 posts

154 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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I have a half butchered one in my garage if that’s of any use? Might be usable. Send me an email.

charlie-5mkmt said:
Some other things we learnt

Our seat mounts are pants. Rather wobbly and are way too high as you can see from the photos. So another job to add to the list is to get something better. So if anyone has an BMW e46 or e36 bucket seat mounts sitting the in garage then let us know (bolt spacing is the same as the range rover)

We need to wire up our wheel speed sensors to switches on the dash as its way too much of a pain to unplug them under the car all the time.

despite our best efforts (painting the wheels and nothing else) the car still looks too normal. We have found a HUGE wing for sale so it looks like we are getting that hoping to get that sorted and on the car in the coming weeks.


Now for the most exciting bit..... We have found a chap who happens to have an Aston Martin MANUAL gearbox that in a previous life was in a jag XKR (the same engine as ours). Looks like this could be the one if we can raise the funds. This would mean we can ditch the sloppy auto box and front diff etc and over 100kgs with it. The negative is the amount of electrical problems it will give.

It looks like the best way out is just to removal all the factory ECU and go standalone.This really isnt our area of knowledge (all chassis engineers) So does anyone have any advice/recommendations for standalone ECU options and companies? Especially that are compatible with 8 cylinder engines and are relatively cost efficient.....

BM7I3860 by Charlie Foley, on Flickr

agent006

12,029 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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Munter said:
Posted in the last few days on Facebook.

Understeer appears to be an issue.

https://www.facebook.com/274988813211477/posts/609...
The absolute state of that. Is it running on only the bump stops with no dampers or something?

RumbleOfThunder

3,546 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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RoverP6B said:
Sod the Aston box and the 4.2, both of which you will end up blowing up: what you need is a Ford 5.4/5.8 Modular DOHC engine and a TR-6060 gearbox with Holley EFI to run the whole show as per Cleetus McFarland's Crown Victoria "Neighbor". The L322 engine bay certainly has room for the big quad-cam Ford, the 5.4 comes from the factory with a very conservative 500bhp, and there are a lot more performance parts (including stronger blocks) available for them. "Neighbor" was making over 900rwhp the last time it was on the dyno. If 1000+bhp wouldn't get you to your faster-than-the-SVR goal, I don't know what would...
Ok Youtube boy, are you going to buy those ridiculous suggestions, have them shipped over from America then figure out the headache to make it all work? Hey maybe they should put Shmee in the boot and have him squeal "hey guuuuys!" whenever they go round a corner too.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 26th August 2020
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RumbleOfThunder said:
Hey maybe they should put Shmee in the boot and have him squeal "hey guuuuys!" whenever they go round a corner too.
That really made me laugh smile

M4CK 1

469 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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RoverP6B said:
Sod the Aston box and the 4.2, both of which you will end up blowing up: what you need is a Ford 5.4/5.8 Modular DOHC engine and a TR-6060 gearbox with Holley EFI to run the whole show as per Cleetus McFarland's Crown Victoria "Neighbor". The L322 engine bay certainly has room for the big quad-cam Ford, the 5.4 comes from the factory with a very conservative 500bhp, and there are a lot more performance parts (including stronger blocks) available for them. "Neighbor" was making over 900rwhp the last time it was on the dyno. If 1000+bhp wouldn't get you to your faster-than-the-SVR goal, I don't know what would...
1000bhp in a range.
Now that would be entertaining and roflspin

UnluckyTimmeh

3,435 posts

212 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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I saw the little bump you chaps had. Hope all is ok :/