Ell's Artic Blue DC5 - Honda Integra Type R
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Well its been awhile since I've updated....
So the car has been fine, last week I book a trackday at Croft for the 1st of July, and then the car decides it hates me...
ABS light came on and stayed on, day after my engine light flashed up too... I scanned this and it was the code for the expensive O2 sensor I replaced when I first bought the car, which annoyed me. I dropped Torque GT an email and they've replaced it so that was a worry over! Top service from those guys.
My cheap OBD scanner does not check ABS codes, so I thought I would have a quick look round the sensors, this is where things get worse... checking my front left there was a lot of oil on the hub/strut/bottom arm, all coming out of my coilover
So I emailed Meister R and because they are an old model, I would need to need to replace both front coilovers with their latest model coilover body to swap everything on to, this, coupled with them being pretty old all round and risking my topmounts falling apart or something along those lines when they all would have to be stripped down, I made another choice... On the road the coilovers are not too bad, but bumpy B roads the car doesn't feel very confidence inspriring and has a lot of bump steer, and this is my daily driver, so the plan is...
I've bought some Spoon progressive springs for my OEM suspension, I'm picking up some camber bolts from Rival Motorsport on the weekend and I'll be fitting these next week and getting it realigned. I chose Spoon springs as everything I have read on them they seem to give the best ride height (others seem to give DC5's reverse rake) while still being comfortable on the road but stiff enough for some track use.
I bought a bluetooth OBD adapter as apprently the Torque app will read my ABS code, I'm guessing though that the oil from my coilover has damaged the ABS sensor on that hub, but hopefully i'll be able to check that tonight.
So overall, the car is definately testing me, especially since booking a track day! Money is tight at the moment too so that factored into the compromise of ditching the coilovers, hopefully I wont regret it!
I'll keep this update with how I get on.
So the car has been fine, last week I book a trackday at Croft for the 1st of July, and then the car decides it hates me...
ABS light came on and stayed on, day after my engine light flashed up too... I scanned this and it was the code for the expensive O2 sensor I replaced when I first bought the car, which annoyed me. I dropped Torque GT an email and they've replaced it so that was a worry over! Top service from those guys.
My cheap OBD scanner does not check ABS codes, so I thought I would have a quick look round the sensors, this is where things get worse... checking my front left there was a lot of oil on the hub/strut/bottom arm, all coming out of my coilover
So I emailed Meister R and because they are an old model, I would need to need to replace both front coilovers with their latest model coilover body to swap everything on to, this, coupled with them being pretty old all round and risking my topmounts falling apart or something along those lines when they all would have to be stripped down, I made another choice... On the road the coilovers are not too bad, but bumpy B roads the car doesn't feel very confidence inspriring and has a lot of bump steer, and this is my daily driver, so the plan is...
I've bought some Spoon progressive springs for my OEM suspension, I'm picking up some camber bolts from Rival Motorsport on the weekend and I'll be fitting these next week and getting it realigned. I chose Spoon springs as everything I have read on them they seem to give the best ride height (others seem to give DC5's reverse rake) while still being comfortable on the road but stiff enough for some track use.
I bought a bluetooth OBD adapter as apprently the Torque app will read my ABS code, I'm guessing though that the oil from my coilover has damaged the ABS sensor on that hub, but hopefully i'll be able to check that tonight.
So overall, the car is definately testing me, especially since booking a track day! Money is tight at the moment too so that factored into the compromise of ditching the coilovers, hopefully I wont regret it!
I'll keep this update with how I get on.
Its been awhile....
New sensor from Torque GT cured the EML and has been fine since, again top service from them replacing it with no issues at all.
Got the coilovers off and the spoon springs on my OEM struts installed, bought some front camber bolts too and stuck those in at the same time, booked in and got the car aligned, all good there.
ABS light... what a pain! So the OBD adaptor I bought was android only , so after lending an andriod tablet, it still didn't read the code , back to the drawing board. After some searching around, I found an old link on a forum for Acura RSX's, it showed putting a paperclip/wire between two of the connectors within the OBD port and this would flash the ABS code, having ran out of ideas I gave this a go, and it worked! Rear right sensor was at fault, so its a good job I didn't just replace the front left with the leaking coilover.
So then I ran into another problem, where/how do I get a new sensor?! No where listed DC5 specifically, EP3 use two different sizes between facelift and prefacelift, I didn't know which one I needed, there was a couple second hand on eBay but for the same money as a new one. Abit of digging and asking around friends, I found out EP3 rears, both facelift and prefacelift are the same, and the same thats used on a DC5. Got one of those ordered from Japservice parts, then it arrived, so I went to fit this the day before Croft. I had been warned that these were a pain to get out in one piece, so took my time, bolt came out nice and easy, then I slowly pryed away at the edges, got a nice statisfying pop and thought that was it, job done... nope, snapped into the hub! A few hours with a stubby screwdriver, sandpaper and a hammer and we got there, new one in and turned the car on, problem solved!
So, Croft on Monday, my first proper track day. Overall it was a good day, car was faultless until the last session, which between a mix of staying out longer than I had before, and pushing a little harder / braking later... I started a cooldown lap, went for the brakes and they went to the floor! I pulled off the track and checked for leaks, turned out I just boiled the fluid. I realised then I've been abit of an idiot and used normal ATE fluid rather than their "Racing" stuff, I've since bought some Motul RBF600 to change this week, because I'm back on track this weekend at Japfest Donington!
Overall the car feels great again, looking forward to Japfest 2 at the weekend, then two weeks until my ring trip!
Couple photos from the track day:
New sensor from Torque GT cured the EML and has been fine since, again top service from them replacing it with no issues at all.
Got the coilovers off and the spoon springs on my OEM struts installed, bought some front camber bolts too and stuck those in at the same time, booked in and got the car aligned, all good there.
ABS light... what a pain! So the OBD adaptor I bought was android only , so after lending an andriod tablet, it still didn't read the code
, back to the drawing board. After some searching around, I found an old link on a forum for Acura RSX's, it showed putting a paperclip/wire between two of the connectors within the OBD port and this would flash the ABS code, having ran out of ideas I gave this a go, and it worked! Rear right sensor was at fault, so its a good job I didn't just replace the front left with the leaking coilover. So then I ran into another problem, where/how do I get a new sensor?! No where listed DC5 specifically, EP3 use two different sizes between facelift and prefacelift, I didn't know which one I needed, there was a couple second hand on eBay but for the same money as a new one. Abit of digging and asking around friends, I found out EP3 rears, both facelift and prefacelift are the same, and the same thats used on a DC5. Got one of those ordered from Japservice parts, then it arrived, so I went to fit this the day before Croft. I had been warned that these were a pain to get out in one piece, so took my time, bolt came out nice and easy, then I slowly pryed away at the edges, got a nice statisfying pop and thought that was it, job done... nope, snapped into the hub! A few hours with a stubby screwdriver, sandpaper and a hammer and we got there, new one in and turned the car on, problem solved!
So, Croft on Monday, my first proper track day. Overall it was a good day, car was faultless until the last session, which between a mix of staying out longer than I had before, and pushing a little harder / braking later... I started a cooldown lap, went for the brakes and they went to the floor! I pulled off the track and checked for leaks, turned out I just boiled the fluid. I realised then I've been abit of an idiot and used normal ATE fluid rather than their "Racing" stuff, I've since bought some Motul RBF600 to change this week, because I'm back on track this weekend at Japfest Donington!
Overall the car feels great again, looking forward to Japfest 2 at the weekend, then two weeks until my ring trip!
Couple photos from the track day:
Japfest 2 was a good show, shame its a lot smaller than the show at Silverstone and not a lot going on either, the "sprint course" was kept away from the main show, but it was good watching some track action.
Was also my first time at Donington, pretty quick track! Found it hard to find the line and pace and I only did a 20min session but the car felt great.
Nurburgring next week
Was also my first time at Donington, pretty quick track! Found it hard to find the line and pace and I only did a 20min session but the car felt great.
Nurburgring next week
Well the Nürburgring , what a place!
Drove from Newcastle to Hull Thursday night, ferry to Rotterdam, and drove over to the Nürburgring Friday afternoon. Arrived and was greeted by the noise of the VLN cars out practising for the race on the Saturday. We stayed at Hotel An Der Nordschleife which is literally outside the halfway point where you can come off the track, great spot with lots of things close to it, I'd definitely return here!
Friday we spent awhile getting to know the area, working out the viewing spots to watch the race from and took a trip up to the TF entrance and Devil's Diner. We also managed to get into the pit lane at the GP track to have a look round the VLN cars, some serious bits of kit!
Saturday was spent watching the VLN from the spots from the previous day, then Sunday was Mimms Honda Day inside the Nürburgring Boulevard and I planned to get some TF laps in too. Mimms opened at 10, but TF opened at 8, so we went there for around 9 and got my first lap in before heading to the show. This place is nothing like the games, the sheer speed, elevation changes, blind corners, dips and jumps... there’s nothing i could compare it too! After the lap, we headed over to Mimms, it was a nice change to see some new cars there as its quite often the same UK cars that turn up to the shows over here, after a couple hours there we headed back to do another 2 TF laps. I had only planned on doing a couple on this trip, but after those two, I bought another 2 which I did later in the evening. Monday we headed to the ring museum and took a steady drive back to Rotterdam for the ferry.
The teg was absolutely faultless the whole trip, even managed to get the whole trip from the ring back to Newcastle (400 mile) to one tank of fuel. I had half planned to sell the teg when i got back from something abit better on fuel, but after this trip and how well it’s been i just couldn’t bring myself to sell it. So now the plan is to spend a weekend getting the underseal refreshed and ready for winter duties, OEM wheels will be going back on but i may treat them to a fresh referb in OEM silver too.
I'll finish the post with the best photo I've had taken of the teg... had to buy this one straight away
Drove from Newcastle to Hull Thursday night, ferry to Rotterdam, and drove over to the Nürburgring Friday afternoon. Arrived and was greeted by the noise of the VLN cars out practising for the race on the Saturday. We stayed at Hotel An Der Nordschleife which is literally outside the halfway point where you can come off the track, great spot with lots of things close to it, I'd definitely return here!
Friday we spent awhile getting to know the area, working out the viewing spots to watch the race from and took a trip up to the TF entrance and Devil's Diner. We also managed to get into the pit lane at the GP track to have a look round the VLN cars, some serious bits of kit!
Saturday was spent watching the VLN from the spots from the previous day, then Sunday was Mimms Honda Day inside the Nürburgring Boulevard and I planned to get some TF laps in too. Mimms opened at 10, but TF opened at 8, so we went there for around 9 and got my first lap in before heading to the show. This place is nothing like the games, the sheer speed, elevation changes, blind corners, dips and jumps... there’s nothing i could compare it too! After the lap, we headed over to Mimms, it was a nice change to see some new cars there as its quite often the same UK cars that turn up to the shows over here, after a couple hours there we headed back to do another 2 TF laps. I had only planned on doing a couple on this trip, but after those two, I bought another 2 which I did later in the evening. Monday we headed to the ring museum and took a steady drive back to Rotterdam for the ferry.
The teg was absolutely faultless the whole trip, even managed to get the whole trip from the ring back to Newcastle (400 mile) to one tank of fuel. I had half planned to sell the teg when i got back from something abit better on fuel, but after this trip and how well it’s been i just couldn’t bring myself to sell it. So now the plan is to spend a weekend getting the underseal refreshed and ready for winter duties, OEM wheels will be going back on but i may treat them to a fresh referb in OEM silver too.
I'll finish the post with the best photo I've had taken of the teg... had to buy this one straight away
Awesome mate. Sounds like a belter of a weekend.
Gutted you're no longer selling me your wheels but happy that you've found a new found love for the car. If/when you you decide to get rid then let me know, if I've not got myself a set of wheels by then I'll be very interested.
Look forward to more Teg content.
Gutted you're no longer selling me your wheels but happy that you've found a new found love for the car. If/when you you decide to get rid then let me know, if I've not got myself a set of wheels by then I'll be very interested.
Look forward to more Teg content.
Kewy said:
Awesome mate. Sounds like a belter of a weekend.
Gutted you're no longer selling me your wheels but happy that you've found a new found love for the car. If/when you you decide to get rid then let me know, if I've not got myself a set of wheels by then I'll be very interested.
Look forward to more Teg content.
Thanks mate! Again apologies about the wheels but you'll 100% be the first to know if/when they go!Gutted you're no longer selling me your wheels but happy that you've found a new found love for the car. If/when you you decide to get rid then let me know, if I've not got myself a set of wheels by then I'll be very interested.
Look forward to more Teg content.
df76 said:
Good write up, and glad it went well!
Have you ever power tested the car with this set up??
Thanks!Have you ever power tested the car with this set up??
I've not had it dyno, I'd be interested to see what it would make too, maybe if theres a dyno day local I'd give it a go. It seems to pull quite easily on EP3's so it feels pretty healthy!
Also, got sent one of the photos I bought this morning, standard Nurburgring photo
Some cracking photos there, car looks good mate. The Nurburgring is a special place isn't it, cannot wait to get my Teg there next year!
I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
SaggyOstrich said:
Some cracking photos there, car looks good mate. The Nurburgring is a special place isn't it, cannot wait to get my Teg there next year!
I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
Very special it seems, I can't wait to go back already I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
Judging by my go pro footage, my last lap my BTG time was around 9:50, my first lap I think could have been timed with a sundial, I think my indicator was on more than off for that first lap! I had played some GT and Project Cars before going, but nothing is going to prepare you that much when you actually realise how much elavation change and blind corners there are, I'm happy with SUB 10 anyway! I can see the appeal of pushing for quicker times too though, but it's all about bringing the car back in one piece!Instagram is the same as my username on here, I don't use it too much though but there is a few photos on there!
Also came in the other day to find a nice speeding fine from Rotterdam, 58kph in a 50kph, 10minutes from the ferry port... 59 euro fine which I could have done without!
Ellb123 said:
Very special it seems, I can't wait to go back already Judging by my go pro footage, my last lap my BTG time was around 9:50, my first lap I think could have been timed with a sundial, I think my indicator was on more than off for that first lap! I had played some GT and Project Cars before going, but nothing is going to prepare you that much when you actually realise how much elavation change and blind corners there are, I'm happy with SUB 10 anyway! I can see the appeal of pushing for quicker times too though, but it's all about bringing the car back in one piece!
Instagram is the same as my username on here, I don't use it too much though but there is a few photos on there!
Also came in the other day to find a nice speeding fine from Rotterdam, 58kph in a 50kph, 10minutes from the ferry port... 59 euro fine which I could have done without!
I have a Luxembourg one sitting on my dining room table for doing 92kph in a 90! Judging by my go pro footage, my last lap my BTG time was around 9:50, my first lap I think could have been timed with a sundial, I think my indicator was on more than off for that first lap! I had played some GT and Project Cars before going, but nothing is going to prepare you that much when you actually realise how much elavation change and blind corners there are, I'm happy with SUB 10 anyway! I can see the appeal of pushing for quicker times too though, but it's all about bringing the car back in one piece!Instagram is the same as my username on here, I don't use it too much though but there is a few photos on there!
Also came in the other day to find a nice speeding fine from Rotterdam, 58kph in a 50kph, 10minutes from the ferry port... 59 euro fine which I could have done without!
Ellb123 said:
SaggyOstrich said:
Some cracking photos there, car looks good mate. The Nurburgring is a special place isn't it, cannot wait to get my Teg there next year!
I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
Very special it seems, I can't wait to go back already I know you're not supposed to time laps, but do you have a rough idea of what you were lapping in?
Are you on Instagram, I recognise the car but would like to follow your progress on there?
Judging by my go pro footage, my last lap my BTG time was around 9:50, my first lap I think could have been timed with a sundial, I think my indicator was on more than off for that first lap! I had played some GT and Project Cars before going, but nothing is going to prepare you that much when you actually realise how much elavation change and blind corners there are, I'm happy with SUB 10 anyway! I can see the appeal of pushing for quicker times too though, but it's all about bringing the car back in one piece!Instagram is the same as my username on here, I don't use it too much though but there is a few photos on there!
Also came in the other day to find a nice speeding fine from Rotterdam, 58kph in a 50kph, 10minutes from the ferry port... 59 euro fine which I could have done without!
I'll add you on Instagram anyway dude.
Sucks about the speeding fine, we have been lucky with that never had one...I've had a camera flash at me on more than one occasion, but so far no fine!
Edited by SaggyOstrich on Friday 23 August 11:03
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