The return of my E60 M5 - Wallet drained - now Supercharged!

The return of my E60 M5 - Wallet drained - now Supercharged!

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TheAngryDog

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12,406 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Gallons Per Mile said:
That one just sounds like bad luck to me. Hope it's a cheap repair for you thumbup
It is what it is. Could have happened to any car, just happened to be this one. Could just be a snapped bolt, but it will likely have taken something with it. New arms have been ordered, £280 for Meyle HD items. Just the labour now.

J4CKO

41,520 posts

200 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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I reckon, once you sell this, as a simpler, lower cost project how about recommissioning Concorde ?

TheAngryDog

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Friday 30th August 2019
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J4CKO said:
I reckon, once you sell this, as a simpler, lower cost project how about recommissioning Concorde ?
It's on my list of replacements. I won't be selling this for a while though, market means I would take a huge bath.

TheAngryDog

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Friday 30th August 2019
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cerb4.5lee said:
Just watched the video and thoroughly enjoyed it. thumbup You must be buzzing to get your car reviewed like that, and I would be over the moon if one of my cars had that type of coverage. cool

The exhaust/intake mods make such a difference for sure. smokin I remember the first time that I heard a standard one idling and I was so disappointed(JayEmm eluded to that also in the video), especially considering the size of the engine and the amount of cylinders.

Enjoy the car. smile
Glad you enjoyed the video thumbup Yeah it was a good review, Jay treated the car respectfully which was important to me. Yeah standard ones don't sound half as good. I know the K&Ns are divisive but the noise they add is worth it. On the move they aren't going to suffer heat soak and I also have 2 lots of "ducting" going to them.

Court_S

12,927 posts

177 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Bummer about the latest issue but as you say it’s one of those things rather than an M5 issue.

Jay seems like a pretty decent bloke and your comments back that up.

TheAngryDog

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Friday 30th August 2019
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Court_S said:
Bummer about the latest issue but as you say it’s one of those things rather than an M5 issue.

Jay seems like a pretty decent bloke and your comments back that up.
Exactly, it could have happened in my old Honda Accord, it's (bad) luck of the draw. Just that it costs more because it is an M5.

Yeah he's sound. Much better than many of the others, and it seems to show given some of the access he is now getting to cars.

TheAngryDog

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209 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.

B'stard Child

28,381 posts

246 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
That does not sound very good at all - bushes should stay as bushes

Shrubbery and all that biggrin

helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
If it’s come out once what has changed to stop it coming out again? I’d recommend changing the part it’s come out of for a new one without a PU bush, and doing the same on the other side.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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I’m not surprised Russell at DMWorx has bought a nice new house, I think you helped pay for it. wink
Good to hear the M5 is back on the road and being used and is now a YouTube star!

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

203 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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Saw the video and as soon as Jay said about the engine issues I thought I'd seen that somewhere!
Car sounds epic!

Shaoxter

4,071 posts

124 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
I'm never convinced about a lot of these "upgrades" tbh. The car as standard is brilliant.

therusterman

127 posts

119 months

Wednesday 4th September 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
Watched a video of an R32 with Powerflex bushes, where half a front wishbone bush disappeared during an autocross event. This was after a rear poly bush on the wishbone had split and had to be replaced. Link for anyone interested https://youtu.be/Eia4s45Oj7g


Edited by therusterman on Wednesday 4th September 11:39

TheAngryDog

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Wednesday 4th September 2019
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B'stard Child said:
TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
That does not sound very good at all - bushes should stay as bushes

Shrubbery and all that biggrin
That last comment is shrubbish (sorry).

It isn't what I expect, but it is what it is!

helix402 said:
TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
If it’s come out once what has changed to stop it coming out again? I’d recommend changing the part it’s come out of for a new one without a PU bush, and doing the same on the other side.
I have 4 new arms. The plan is to use the newer parts that have a different design if Powerflex will swap, otherwise I will just fit the new arms as it. I've never had issues with Poly bushes before so I aren't too concerned long term.

bucksmanuk said:
I’m not surprised Russell at DMWorx has bought a nice new house, I think you helped pay for it. wink
Good to hear the M5 is back on the road and being used and is now a YouTube star!
My car spends more time there than on my driveway! He said he may start charging rent soon hehe Hopefully getting it back tomorrow or Friday so I can use it again. At least I haven't been using any petrol laugh

thecremeegg said:
Saw the video and as soon as Jay said about the engine issues I thought I'd seen that somewhere!
Car sounds epic!
Cheers!

Shaoxter said:
TheAngryDog said:
Dropped some parts off at my indy today. They've had a look at the broken bit..... It was a bush. It had popped out under braking which is a little worrying, so they have put it back in. They couldn't see any damage but I am going to raise this with powerflex as it should not have happened, and they have superceded the design since I bought mine due to failures.
I'm never convinced about a lot of these "upgrades" tbh. The car as standard is brilliant.
I've never had any issues with poly bushes, I have run them in various cars. I am happy to keep running them, just need to get the newer ones. If they don't play ball then I will just fit new arms with standard bushes.

TheAngryDog

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209 months

Saturday 7th September 2019
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I have my car back, and the complete source of the failure has been found.





I am pretty sure they're not supposed to look like that.

Ended up having to fit the new lower and upper arms and drop links. Suffice to say the car feels so much better now and I no longer experience wheel wobble at motorway speeds

While this work was being done I also had the car lowered on Eibach Pro springs, 30mm at the front and 25mm at the rear.








Pommy

14,249 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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AD - including the purchase price how much do you reckon youre up to cost wise all up to get to this point?

Bright Halo

2,965 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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The last time I saw a bush failure like that i.e looks twisted/shredded was where the bolts had been tightened whilst the weight was off the wheels thus locking the bush. Once the car was then back on the ground the bush became loaded up with torque resulting in failure.
Not saying that is the cause with yours but the resulting state of the bush looks near identical.

Personally I have now given up on polybushes and have gone back to standard oem as there just seems so much variation in aftermarket polybushes that it is just to risky a change for myself.
Worn bushes replaced by new oem items make a remarkable improvement to a cars handling.


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Edited by Bright Halo on Sunday 8th September 18:34

TheAngryDog

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Sunday 8th September 2019
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Pommy said:
AD - including the purchase price how much do you reckon youre up to cost wise all up to get to this point?
Rough back of a cig packet calculation is over £27k. I know it sounds a lot and is sobering to see it, but it is what it is. When the engine failed I'd have got 4k tops for my car as all of the value is in the engine, and it would have taken ages to sell. I could have bought another engine and had it fitted cheaper (I would still have needed to buy a clutch and gearbox) but I could have been buying someone elses problems.

The only logical thing was for me to have the engine rebuilt. The springs I already owned from last year. I could have bought many other cars with the money, but it is what it is. I guess you gotta pay to play.

Pommy

14,249 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
Pommy said:
AD - including the purchase price how much do you reckon youre up to cost wise all up to get to this point?
Rough back of a cig packet calculation is over £27k. I know it sounds a lot and is sobering to see it, but it is what it is. When the engine failed I'd have got 4k tops for my car as all of the value is in the engine, and it would have taken ages to sell. I could have bought another engine and had it fitted cheaper (I would still have needed to buy a clutch and gearbox) but I could have been buying someone elses problems.

The only logical thing was for me to have the engine rebuilt. The springs I already owned from last year. I could have bought many other cars with the money, but it is what it is. I guess you gotta pay to play.
Thanks

I dunno, I reckon there’s not much else like it. I mean you could have got a new Golf GTI but then you’d have to pay for the drugs to keep you awake...

TheAngryDog

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209 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Pommy said:
TheAngryDog said:
Pommy said:
AD - including the purchase price how much do you reckon youre up to cost wise all up to get to this point?
Rough back of a cig packet calculation is over £27k. I know it sounds a lot and is sobering to see it, but it is what it is. When the engine failed I'd have got 4k tops for my car as all of the value is in the engine, and it would have taken ages to sell. I could have bought another engine and had it fitted cheaper (I would still have needed to buy a clutch and gearbox) but I could have been buying someone elses problems.

The only logical thing was for me to have the engine rebuilt. The springs I already owned from last year. I could have bought many other cars with the money, but it is what it is. I guess you gotta pay to play.
Thanks

I dunno, I reckon there’s not much else like it. I mean you could have got a new Golf GTI but then you’d have to pay for the drugs to keep you awake...
I definitely couldn't bring myself to own a new Golf GTi as my only car, I'd still need to have something interesting.