Peugeot 607 “The overtime car”
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carinaman said:
Interesting. I didn't know they were available with double glazing.
Interesting feature for a Pug back then. Think the latest citroen c5 has them too. Curious how the cabin noise compares with the OPs modern hatch. Nice and quiet inside?
Great choice of car, dont think I've seen one on the road
Comparing it to the Skoda it’s much quieter apart from the engine although once moving it’s not that noisy. You don’t feel every little bump and it’s much more composed over bad roads as you’d expect.
Yesterday it did about 140 miles over a mixture of roads with no issue. The headlights are good and the rear blind is pretty handy on dark motorways making looking in the mirror bearable. It actually handles reasonably well. Let the body roll then get on the throttle and it’s pretty amusing to throw around. Steering wheel is a better size than the massive wheel in the Fabia.
Last night I had a go in a new Volvo S90. I’d say the Peugeot is probably as quiet inside which surprised me. Unsurprisingly the Volvo is the better car.
Overall I’m enjoying it so far.
Yesterday it did about 140 miles over a mixture of roads with no issue. The headlights are good and the rear blind is pretty handy on dark motorways making looking in the mirror bearable. It actually handles reasonably well. Let the body roll then get on the throttle and it’s pretty amusing to throw around. Steering wheel is a better size than the massive wheel in the Fabia.
Last night I had a go in a new Volvo S90. I’d say the Peugeot is probably as quiet inside which surprised me. Unsurprisingly the Volvo is the better car.
Overall I’m enjoying it so far.
The 2.0 HDI is a nice engine, the only weakness in ours was the DMF and the three variable position vacuum valves that alter the turbo vanes and the I/C bypass.
They caused problems with the turbo going into limp mode needing a restart of the engine, got into the habit of restarting while moving and that eventually killed the turbo.
The Chinese clone Lexia diagnostic kit is fairly cheap on ebay and worth it it this is a longish ownership prospect as there are lots of electronics and electronic controlled components. Even replacing a fuel injector needs the kit to register the new injector before it will work ! And refilling the Eloys container will need the counters resetting to keep it injecting the stuff.
Our DMF failed at about 90,000 (and its also the crankshaft torsional damper, so a solid replacement can cause problems), but then sold it rather than fix it.
The radiator fan is a computer controlled affair and would have cost £346 for a new unit from Peugeot !, so cut up a 307 fan from a scrapper and used a stick on thermostat to run it.
Nice, mile munching car, and reasonable economy too. Ran all the way across France in ours without stopping for over 500 miles
They caused problems with the turbo going into limp mode needing a restart of the engine, got into the habit of restarting while moving and that eventually killed the turbo.
The Chinese clone Lexia diagnostic kit is fairly cheap on ebay and worth it it this is a longish ownership prospect as there are lots of electronics and electronic controlled components. Even replacing a fuel injector needs the kit to register the new injector before it will work ! And refilling the Eloys container will need the counters resetting to keep it injecting the stuff.
Our DMF failed at about 90,000 (and its also the crankshaft torsional damper, so a solid replacement can cause problems), but then sold it rather than fix it.
The radiator fan is a computer controlled affair and would have cost £346 for a new unit from Peugeot !, so cut up a 307 fan from a scrapper and used a stick on thermostat to run it.
Nice, mile munching car, and reasonable economy too. Ran all the way across France in ours without stopping for over 500 miles
More work done yesterday and it seemed to go reasonably well other than I look like I’ve been self harming due to the amount of time with my hand in the front bumper.
First off was an oil and filter change.
This went pretty smoothly. Everything came apart nicely which was good. There’s a big bracket over the top of the oil filter housing which needed to be removed but that was easy enough once I worked out how. It took the whole 5 litres to fill back up. The old oil was black but nothing of any concern.
Next up was to investigate why the headlamp washers don’t work. I can hear the pump but nothing was wet. A look around the car revealed this;
Bearing in mind it was dry yesterday a wet wheel arch wasn’t a good thing. I needed to take the liner out to get to the fog light anyway so I got it out and found this;
Which should have been attached to where the other end of this pipe still is just above the rusty metal part;
After a long time cutting, pulling, undoing one of those stupid crimp on clips I got the broken piece off and reconnected it up. Now I’ve not tested them yet but I expect them to work unless there is an electrical connection to the washers that I don’t know about. Can anyone tell me how they work?
Whilst the arch was out I managed to pull all this out from behind the wing;
Don’t worry the car was on jack stands as well as the jack. I’m amazed I didn’t find any rust behind the wing with all that in there but there wasn’t so I’m happy.
The other job was the front foglight which was what I first noticed when I looked at the car.
That wasn’t as hard to do as I was expecting but access isn’t great.
Again after much swearing dropping the screws that hold it in, it’s in and working.
That was it for yesterday’s work. Surprisingly the Skoda hasn’t been driven since picking this up. For normal daily driving it’s nice not having to worry about going over speed bumps, getting close to kerbs or getting doors dinged, it’s just always relaxing.
First off was an oil and filter change.
This went pretty smoothly. Everything came apart nicely which was good. There’s a big bracket over the top of the oil filter housing which needed to be removed but that was easy enough once I worked out how. It took the whole 5 litres to fill back up. The old oil was black but nothing of any concern.
Next up was to investigate why the headlamp washers don’t work. I can hear the pump but nothing was wet. A look around the car revealed this;
Bearing in mind it was dry yesterday a wet wheel arch wasn’t a good thing. I needed to take the liner out to get to the fog light anyway so I got it out and found this;
Which should have been attached to where the other end of this pipe still is just above the rusty metal part;
After a long time cutting, pulling, undoing one of those stupid crimp on clips I got the broken piece off and reconnected it up. Now I’ve not tested them yet but I expect them to work unless there is an electrical connection to the washers that I don’t know about. Can anyone tell me how they work?
Whilst the arch was out I managed to pull all this out from behind the wing;
Don’t worry the car was on jack stands as well as the jack. I’m amazed I didn’t find any rust behind the wing with all that in there but there wasn’t so I’m happy.
The other job was the front foglight which was what I first noticed when I looked at the car.
That wasn’t as hard to do as I was expecting but access isn’t great.
Again after much swearing dropping the screws that hold it in, it’s in and working.
That was it for yesterday’s work. Surprisingly the Skoda hasn’t been driven since picking this up. For normal daily driving it’s nice not having to worry about going over speed bumps, getting close to kerbs or getting doors dinged, it’s just always relaxing.
Got a bit more done in the morning. First was replacing some of the missing/broken clips around the car.
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|https://thumbsnap.com/MFy0ZZnE[/url]
The clips were cheap at £6 for 200 of them in different sizes and aren’t that far off the original ones.
I’ve been dying to clean the interior since I got the car last week. Although most people get in the car and can’t believe how clean it is, I know it can be better. It didn’t come with floor mats and the ones I ordered got lost in the post so I’m still waiting for them. As I’m still waiting I thought I’d give the leather a clean as there’s quite a bit of it.
Before;
I think you’ll agree that they don’t look very dirty. After doing the drivers seat the cloth told a different story!
It’s not as noticeable in the pictures but after the seats aren’t as shiny.
Other jobs included putting some valve caps on all the wheels, cleaning the mucky fingerprints I put on the headlining when removing the handsfree kit and pulling mud out of the left hand inner arch as I had a feeling it would be the same as the other side, which it was...
I’ve done just under 500 miles in the car since last Tuesday which has shown how much mileage I end up doing that I don’t really take much notice of. My commute is 5 miles each way however I’ve done several miles picking up and dropping people off so they can help out at work. It’s done 42.8mpg at an average speed of 26mph so far which I think is pretty good given it’s spent most of its time doing town driving. I’m sure 50+mpg would be easy enough on the motorway.
Finally does anyone know of any parts fiche websites that do Peugeot’s? The wheel centres are all warped and the paint has gone crusty but I can’t seem to find them for sale anywhere.
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|https://thumbsnap.com/MFy0ZZnE[/url]The clips were cheap at £6 for 200 of them in different sizes and aren’t that far off the original ones.
I’ve been dying to clean the interior since I got the car last week. Although most people get in the car and can’t believe how clean it is, I know it can be better. It didn’t come with floor mats and the ones I ordered got lost in the post so I’m still waiting for them. As I’m still waiting I thought I’d give the leather a clean as there’s quite a bit of it.
Before;
I think you’ll agree that they don’t look very dirty. After doing the drivers seat the cloth told a different story!
It’s not as noticeable in the pictures but after the seats aren’t as shiny.
Other jobs included putting some valve caps on all the wheels, cleaning the mucky fingerprints I put on the headlining when removing the handsfree kit and pulling mud out of the left hand inner arch as I had a feeling it would be the same as the other side, which it was...
I’ve done just under 500 miles in the car since last Tuesday which has shown how much mileage I end up doing that I don’t really take much notice of. My commute is 5 miles each way however I’ve done several miles picking up and dropping people off so they can help out at work. It’s done 42.8mpg at an average speed of 26mph so far which I think is pretty good given it’s spent most of its time doing town driving. I’m sure 50+mpg would be easy enough on the motorway.
Finally does anyone know of any parts fiche websites that do Peugeot’s? The wheel centres are all warped and the paint has gone crusty but I can’t seem to find them for sale anywhere.
SAS Tom said:
Finally does anyone know of any parts fiche websites that do Peugeot’s? The wheel centres are all warped and the paint has gone crusty but I can’t seem to find them for sale anywhere.
http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/pages/index.j...
Sign up and use your chassis number to bring up your vehicle.
Custard400 said:
Yes Peugeot/Citroen have their own parts look up free and online.....
http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/pages/index.j...
Sign up and use your chassis number to bring up your vehicle.
Yeap, servicebox is ace, and you can get your detailed vehicle specs as well off of it. If you can't register/log in (I find it's a bit IP-sensitive, not sure why), catcar.info is another good call (parts catalog like servicebox but without the vehicle spec info). http://public.servicebox.peugeot.com/pages/index.j...
Sign up and use your chassis number to bring up your vehicle.
SAS Tom said:
Previously I’ve never taken any notice of the 607....
Peugeot lent me one for a few weeks when my rep-mobile 406 HPi had a problem with its engine that they couldn't fix (they eventually took the 406 back and discontinued the HPi engine). I thought the electric headrests were the 607's most amazing feature!I did find it very strange that everyone seemed to look at me / the car - I reckon it was because they were were wondering who on earth would buy one!
I also wonder who would have bought a new one! Interestingly my dad bought a Honda Civic in 2007. The Peugeot was twice the price of the Civic! 12 years later and the Civic is worth more than the Peugeot, that’s how bad the depreciation must have been.
Add to that by 2006 it was a 6 year old design based on an even older Chassis. A 2006 Audi, BMW or Merc was definitely a way better car!
I do like the car but I couldn’t imagine paying a lot of money for it!
Add to that by 2006 it was a 6 year old design based on an even older Chassis. A 2006 Audi, BMW or Merc was definitely a way better car!
I do like the car but I couldn’t imagine paying a lot of money for it!
Yeah that’s the one. With VAT though it’s about £130 and it looks like they all do the same thing as I suspect they are hard to get off.
I have a couple of ideas;
Leave it as is although I don’t like the wheels looking scruffy.
Buy the centre caps and have the same issues plus my wheels will need refurbing.
Get some different second hand Peugeot wheels to put on without the silly centre cap. There’s a few I like and they’re not expensive but I’ll probably get them refurbed if I do buy some.
I have a couple of ideas;
Leave it as is although I don’t like the wheels looking scruffy.
Buy the centre caps and have the same issues plus my wheels will need refurbing.
Get some different second hand Peugeot wheels to put on without the silly centre cap. There’s a few I like and they’re not expensive but I’ll probably get them refurbed if I do buy some.
SAS Tom said:
Yeah that’s the one. With VAT though it’s about £130 and it looks like they all do the same thing as I suspect they are hard to get off.
I have a couple of ideas;
Leave it as is although I don’t like the wheels looking scruffy.
Buy the centre caps and have the same issues plus my wheels will need refurbing.
Get some different second hand Peugeot wheels to put on without the silly centre cap. There’s a few I like and they’re not expensive but I’ll probably get them refurbed if I do buy some.
why not get some from a scrappy that may be in decent condition?I have a couple of ideas;
Leave it as is although I don’t like the wheels looking scruffy.
Buy the centre caps and have the same issues plus my wheels will need refurbing.
Get some different second hand Peugeot wheels to put on without the silly centre cap. There’s a few I like and they’re not expensive but I’ll probably get them refurbed if I do buy some.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-607-2-2-Hdi-Aut...
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