I bought an SV - BIG Build thread

I bought an SV - BIG Build thread

Author
Discussion

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Scrump said:
The rules on YT videos have been relaxed recently. A link to your YouTube channel about the build of this would be welcome.
Scrump
Moderator

Edit:
Here it is (I hope this the correct channel!):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLLiTPhVCIBHQZ7J8...
Yes, that’s the one. Thanks Scrump.

I am really happy that so many people are interested. As petrolhead you think ‘are people going to care about a big smelly diesel truck that caps out at 56mph? ‘ biggrin

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
irocfan said:
Or...

Yeah, that doesn’t do it for me. I think that’s OK (Oshkosh) missile launcher or something with an RV body nailed on (literally).

When you go to some places there are road surfaces that will literally shake that to pieces (the motorhome bit, not the OK).
And the OK bit will do about 8mpg and the tyres impossible to find etc etc.
But then you probably weren’t being serious right? biggrin

unseen

169 posts

161 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Inspiring stuff, look forward to seeing the updates on here and on Youtube

irocfan

40,425 posts

190 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Projectblue51 said:
Yeah, that doesn’t do it for me. I think that’s OK (Oshkosh) missile launcher or something with an RV body nailed on (literally).

When you go to some places there are road surfaces that will literally shake that to pieces (the motorhome bit, not the OK).
And the OK bit will do about 8mpg and the tyres impossible to find etc etc.
But then you probably weren’t being serious right? biggrin
yeah I saw that and thought you'd get laugh out of it. thumbup

CharlesdeGaulle

26,263 posts

180 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Will you keep it green? I was chatting to a chap on a camp-site who'd converted an ex-German Army box body and who had decided to paint it in a less-militaristic colour to avoid any difficulties with varying perceptions around the planet. Seemed an odd thing to be aware of but he was pretty serious about it.

He'd made a cracking job of the conversion and planned to travel the world with his German girlfriend and her daughter. I often wonder how they got on.

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Will you keep it green? I was chatting to a chap on a camp-site who'd converted an ex-German Army box body and who had decided to paint it in a less-militaristic colour to avoid any difficulties with varying perceptions around the planet. Seemed an odd thing to be aware of but he was pretty serious about it.

He'd made a cracking job of the conversion and planned to travel the world with his German girlfriend and her daughter. I often wonder how they got on.
Absolutely not keeping it green, he was right. It's one of the luxuries of living in the UK, we don't pick up on stuff like this. But if you plan to cross many borders (as I do), the last thing you want to be in is in something that looks like an Army truck. You will get shot at. Literally. If you are lucky, worse thing is getting a st load of attention at border crossings.

There is a debate about painting it bright colour for visibility/vs darker colour so it doesn't stand out when parked "somewhere you maybe shouldn't". Some folks are worried about attracting the wrong kind of attention and in the UK, the worst thing we think of is robbery. Which tends not to happen to be honest. You are more likely to get shot at or blown up by at trigger happy bored border guard than you are robbed.

I'm opting for, er 'be seen, be safe' attitude. Crash into this, they can't say "didn't see you coming" biggrin



MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
I suspect that will stand out wherever it is if you are trying to stealth camp.

Go bright. Or Jackson Pollock style.

I think this is a fantastic project.

dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Projectblue51 said:
Doesn’t need an SVA, just registered as PHGV and MOTD.
Cool I guess you're not altering the chassis?

When we went to Albania and drove around the mountains the tyres were pretty rubbish. The rocky mountain roads would tear up the inside of the tread and a load had to get shipped over to be fitted before we drove back to the UK by the very happy Albanian MAN dealer. There were also run flat versions with an inner liner fitted but these were mostly used on the recovery SVR.

Depending on what you end up doing it may have been worth hunting out a Marines Waterproof and Winterised one. I've not compared it to a non W&W but we were told they were a lot more expensive as they had to wade up to 1.5m. The breather pipes for things like the diffs, gearbox, and even the lights are all up high behind the cab. There is a fuel burning heater for the coolant and one in the cab to heat it up. It also has heater elements in the fuel system.

For wading all the drivers have to do is grease everything, fit putty to the door drain holes, close the heater flap, lock the diffs, open the capola and fit an emergency recovery strop and air lines. A lot less labour and spares than a Land Rover but they still got it wrong such as leaving the flap open which flooded the cab or not locking the diffs so they got stuck in the sea.

Evanivitch

20,068 posts

122 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Epic thread. Only 1% less epic than if you had a Pinz, but SV are mutt's nuts. Can't believe they're getting auctioned so early on.

Do you have 12V or 24V in the cabin?

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
dai1983 said:
Cool I guess you're not altering the chassis?

When we went to Albania and drove around the mountains the tyres were pretty rubbish. The rocky mountain roads would tear up the inside of the tread and a load had to get shipped over to be fitted before we drove back to the UK by the very happy Albanian MAN dealer. There were also run flat versions with an inner liner fitted but these were mostly used on the recovery SVR.

Depending on what you end up doing it may have been worth hunting out a Marines Waterproof and Winterised one. I've not compared it to a non W&W but we were told they were a lot more expensive as they had to wade up to 1.5m. The breather pipes for things like the diffs, gearbox, and even the lights are all up high behind the cab. There is a fuel burning heater for the coolant and one in the cab to heat it up. It also has heater elements in the fuel system.

For wading all the drivers have to do is grease everything, fit putty to the door drain holes, close the heater flap, lock the diffs, open the capola and fit an emergency recovery strop and air lines. A lot less labour and spares than a Land Rover but they still got it wrong such as leaving the flap open which flooded the cab or not locking the diffs so they got stuck in the sea.
Changing subframe to torsion free - but to my knowledge (which is limited) it doesn't need it. I could well be wrong.
I don't need WW. Just upspec mine to 1.5mm with the bits as you say. Anything that's WW has been sunk in sea water. Not a good thing imho.

The Conti tyres are not great and are getting swapped for the optional Michi XZL's in a teeny 395/85/20 size. They are about an inch and a half wider, but crucially a more aggressive pattern.

I've also sourced some mil spec Hutchinson alloys in 20" that fit. I say sourced. I found 2. So another 4 to go. And everything is bigger, heavier and more expensive.



Evanivitch said:
Epic thread. Only 1% less epic than if you had a Pinz, but SV are mutt's nuts. Can't believe they're getting auctioned so early on.

Do you have 12V or 24V in the cabin?
I like Pinz but they are too small for what I want to do. I know a lovely couple who are converting an ex RAF ambulance 6x6 Pinz and down sizing from their big Expedition truck. For me at 6' 2" and 20 stone - it's not an option.

24v in the cab and 12/240v in the living quarters.


Edited by Projectblue51 on Friday 26th June 22:56

jamesson

2,990 posts

221 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Projectblue51 said:
As petrolhead you think ‘are people going to care about a big smelly diesel truck that caps out at 56mph? ‘ biggrin
I assure you we do. This is completely awesome.

Evanivitch

20,068 posts

122 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Projectblue51 said:
I like Pinz but they are too small for what I want to do. I know a lovely couple who are converting an ex RAF ambulance 6x6 Pinz and down sizing from their big Expedition truck. For me at 6' 2" and 20 stone - it's not an option.

24v in the cab and 12/240v in the living quarters.


Edited by Projectblue51 on Friday 26th June 22:56
More than a few people have made the mistake of plugging in 12V kit in the cab...

I hate being in Pinz when there's tarmac, they're an appalling place to be at that point. Worse if you're towing! Beats a LR BFA though.


jaybarts

316 posts

158 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
Absolutely love this thread, didn’t click on it for a few days thinking it was going to be Lambo content.

I can’t believe some of these are being sold off already, we were always short on 6, 9 and 15t SV’s and would constantly be swapping them around Squadrons due to whole fleet management. Remember when they arrived around 07/08 and they were so much nicer to be in compared to the old 4t bedfords/dafs.

First thing I would change is the step attached with swr, they rattle like crazy. Not sure if you had any of the CES come with it but I could imagine the magnetic window covers still being useful when you travel in hotter climates.

Looking forward to the updates.

Projectblue51

Original Poster:

246 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
quotequote all
jaybarts said:
Absolutely love this thread, didn’t click on it for a few days thinking it was going to be Lambo content.

I can’t believe some of these are being sold off already, we were always short on 6, 9 and 15t SV’s and would constantly be swapping them around Squadrons due to whole fleet management. Remember when they arrived around 07/08 and they were so much nicer to be in compared to the old 4t bedfords/dafs.

First thing I would change is the step attached with swr, they rattle like crazy. Not sure if you had any of the CES come with it but I could imagine the magnetic window covers still being useful when you travel in hotter climates.

Looking forward to the updates.
biggrin cool. I may have put SV because I've been hanging out on Expedition forums and every bugger has a truck there. SV seemed so much more in keeping.

Didn't get any CES, BUT, I have just learned about where there may be some of said window covers.

When you say step, do you mean ladder, or the cab steps on the flex steel rope? I have managed to get a mkII ladder. The modified one that doesn't try to kill you.

Originally I was looking at the Daf t244 (I did my FMT600 in an MK biggrin) but reading up they are becoming more difficult to keep running well ref parts etc. Then the first of these showed up at direct auction and I thought 'no comparison' biggrin

dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
Evanivitch said:
More than a few people have made the mistake of plugging in 12V kit in the cab...

I hate being in Pinz when there's tarmac, they're an appalling place to be at that point. Worse if you're towing! Beats a LR BFA though.
My mate wants to convert a BFA into a camper but could think of loads more I'd rather drive. .

Evanivitch

20,068 posts

122 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
dai1983 said:
My mate wants to convert a BFA into a camper but could think of loads more I'd rather drive. .
Don't let him do it with the standard box and wheelbase. It's a rollover disaster.

jaybarts

316 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
Projectblue51 said:


When you say step, do you mean ladder, or the cab steps on the flex steel rope? I have managed to get a mkII ladder. The modified one that doesn't try to kill you.
The cab steps on the steel rope, even on idle they make a constant irritating rattle.

You’ve made a good choice on a base vehicle though, they would tend to feel bouncy when empty but with the added weight of your conversion on the back it should enhance the drive.

Oh and don’t forget any time you tilt the cab, completely empty it off loose objects unless you fancy driving with goggles wink



dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
Evanivitch said:
Don't let him do it with the standard box and wheelbase. It's a rollover disaster.
I've had the fortune to drive behind one off road and explained to him why it's a crap idea.

Evanivitch

20,068 posts

122 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
dai1983 said:
I've had the fortune to drive behind one off road and explained to him why it's a crap idea.
Apart from maintain NSN, I can not understand why the rear axle is so narrow.

dai1983

2,912 posts

149 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
quotequote all
Just watched your CAD render and looks very impressive. Do they auction the MoD box units with the built in aircon/heater as they'd just fit on the flatbed using a big forklift. They're just a modified shipping container though!

One trick we were taught is to turn the little side light on before you press the battery isolator switch. We were told that it needs to draw a little current to operate the isolator but at worst it gives you an indication everything is isolated when the light goes out.