£600 Rover 75 Connoisseur SE, 2.5 v6

£600 Rover 75 Connoisseur SE, 2.5 v6

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Cascade360

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11,574 posts

85 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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£209, not bad at all - Klarius backbox charged at cost and an hours labour. Apparently it was properly welded on with rust so glad I didn't try it on axle stands, on my back, in the cold ...

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Friday 18th February 2022
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It's not too bad to have it operational again. The last rear box I had replaced was cut off with a torch which looked dramatic but the garage said it was rusted on.

Spinakerr

1,178 posts

145 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Cascade360 said:
£209, not bad at all - Klarius backbox charged at cost and an hours labour. Apparently it was properly welded on with rust so glad I didn't try it on axle stands, on my back, in the cold ...
Money well spent -- trust me you definitely don't want to attempt on axle stands!

This is the season of PH 75s having their exhaust changed - glad to hear its back providing proper service.

Cascade360

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11,574 posts

85 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Hmmm...suspect it doesn't have another MOT in it.

Bit of prodding of a soft sill this morning:



Drat

sjc

13,964 posts

270 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Cascade360 said:
Hmmm...suspect it doesn't have another MOT in it.

Bit of prodding of a soft sill this morning:



Drat
With getting a quote from Tom Force for that,he does loads for resonable money .

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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So, MOT tomorrow.

It should fail on the aforementioned rusty sill, and was of the view if that was all it failed on (we will see ...) I'd try and get a patch welded on and run it for another year. It isn't worth spending proper money getting the sills done as the rear wheel arch and door should be done too, which would not be cheap.

However, in my pre-MOT checks noticed it was losing coolant. On investigation it seems the thermostat is leaking, plus some weeping from other pipes:





It may be coming to the end of the road ...

SirGriffin

177 posts

68 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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It's possible to replace the thermostat from the side without removing the manifolds and other gubbins, if you lather your hand with something slippery like margarine. (Ask me how I know...ouch!). Don't bother with all the guff that's pedalled about the "rubbish" plastic thermostat housing - it's plastic for a reason. Replace it and you won't have to do it again, they don't fail that often.

When refilling the cooling system it is essential to unbolt the expansion tank and raise it up to allow for removal of airlocks. Just put a box of some kind underneath it so it can sit on top of it while the engine is running. Many fail to do this when refilling and suffer difficulties with airlocks - I never had any problems using this method.

The 75 is well made and I've seen a lot worse corrosion than that, it looks quite weldable.

Edited by SirGriffin on Sunday 5th June 22:52

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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Agreed, that hole looks like it could be patched if that's all it fails on.

Cambs_Stuart

2,868 posts

84 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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I agree, if that rust is the only bit of welding that needs doing and assuming the coolant leak is relatively easy to fix then it'd be a shame to scrap it for what could be a few hundred pounds to repair.
Espcially as find good, cheap, reliable cars is quite hard at the moment.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Just dropped it off. Of course a bloody bulb warning popped up on the way there. The same tail light that was giving me issues last week, and a new bulb hasn't sorted it, so must be an issue with the connections or wiring. It also went from max to min coolant overnight, topped up and was back to min before i got to the garage which is five minutes away, so leak is serious.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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So, it did fail - welding and front ball joint. Let's see how much the welding would be, if I can even find someone to do it - if it was a few hundred quid, I am sure I could replace the stat and suspension arm myself for a few hundred quid.

Repair immediately (major defects):
Nearside Front Suspension arm ball joint excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Offside Front Outer Integral body structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced sill (6.1.1 (c) (i))

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Rear Anti-roll bar corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))



JeremyH5

1,584 posts

135 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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There’s still hope then!

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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There is, though a bit of Googling suggests the front suspension arm can be a bit of a pain ...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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PrinceRupert said:
There is, though a bit of Googling suggests the front suspension arm can be a bit of a pain ...
Suspension arms on all old cars have the potential to turn into a day long struggle, I don't think it'll be Rover 75 specific ballache they're talking about, from what I remember they're totally conventional.

I've discovered that finding someone to do welding to a "just get it through the MOT" standard is getting harder by the year as the old boys retire, I suppose nothing really rusts until it's 15+ years old now when you're inclined to just bin the car, so it's a dying skill outside of proper restorations.

PrinceRupert

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Monday 6th June 2022
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stickleback123 said:
PrinceRupert said:
There is, though a bit of Googling suggests the front suspension arm can be a bit of a pain ...
Suspension arms on all old cars have the potential to turn into a day long struggle, I don't think it'll be Rover 75 specific ballache they're talking about, from what I remember they're totally conventional.

I've discovered that finding someone to do welding to a "just get it through the MOT" standard is getting harder by the year as the old boys retire, I suppose nothing really rusts until it's 15+ years old now when you're inclined to just bin the car, so it's a dying skill outside of proper restorations.
Yup, none of the garages round me to do it, my usual one it is in with don't do it, though they said they might be able to find someone to stick a patch on. Let's see, it looks like it will be 95 quid for the suspension arm, 65 quid for the thermostat kit, plus probably a day of me faffing about and hoping it all goes smoothly (its always easy in theory...), so if I can get it welded for less than a few hundred quid probably worth it, if it is going to be more than that will be tempting to chuck it ...

Decky_Q

1,510 posts

177 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Surely man maths says that even changing car you will get a higher sale price if you get the work done and pass MOT, by which time man maths will dictate you keep it as you know its issues and what else can you buy for £1k these days?

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Decky_Q said:
Surely man maths says that even changing car you will get a higher sale price if you get the work done and pass MOT, by which time man maths will dictate you keep it as you know its issues and what else can you buy for £1k these days?
Indeed, though the problem is the cosmetics (see earlier in the thread) are such that it would probably struggle to make much more than £500 when fixed, though if I can replace the thermostat and lower arm myself for less than 200 quid and get the welding done for a few hundred quid it is probably worth fixing.

Man maths could also say scrap it and use it as an excuse to buy a new car ...

The garage just rang me to say they're struggling to find anyone to do the welding, but have one last guy to try and will let me know ...

defblade

7,433 posts

213 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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Man maths says it's time to buy your own welding kit wink

Cambs_Stuart

2,868 posts

84 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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Decky_Q said:
Surely man maths says that even changing car you will get a higher sale price if you get the work done and pass MOT, by which time man maths will dictate you keep it as you know its issues and what else can you buy for £1k these days?
I was going to say the same. The chances of finding another comfortable, interesting £1k car that doesn't need a few hundred spending on it are pretty slim these days.

sjc

13,964 posts

270 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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PrinceRupert said:
Decky_Q said:
Surely man maths says that even changing car you will get a higher sale price if you get the work done and pass MOT, by which time man maths will dictate you keep it as you know its issues and what else can you buy for £1k these days?
Indeed, though the problem is the cosmetics (see earlier in the thread) are such that it would probably struggle to make much more than £500 when fixed, though if I can replace the thermostat and lower arm myself for less than 200 quid and get the welding done for a few hundred quid it is probably worth fixing.

Man maths could also say scrap it and use it as an excuse to buy a new car ...

The garage just rang me to say they're struggling to find anyone to do the welding, but have one last guy to try and will let me know ...
Get a quote off Tom Force,for the cills etc he's done loads of them with good reports