Citroen 2cv V8 Racer

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grumpy52

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Saturday 8th August 2020
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The rear wings will be on Dzus fasteners and slave wheels will be used on the rear . The car won't fit on the trailer or in the transporter in its race setup . The trailer has already been widened to take a Holden Commodore race car .

grumpy52

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Tuesday 11th August 2020
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A bit more done, steering column mounting tubes tacked into place and seat trial fitted . The seat is about an inch out so needs doing again .
When everything has found its place the body and mechanicals will come off , everything will be fully welded the chassis will then be stripped and painted ,all the components will be refurbished then assembly will begin but that won't be until early next year probably .

Edited by grumpy52 on Tuesday 11th August 23:43

Petrolism

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Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Nice progress.

Question: Won't it be a bit odd-looking out of the windscreen from that far back, with perspex windows for the rest of the driver's peripheral vision?

grumpy52

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Wednesday 12th August 2020
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Petrolism said:
Nice progress.

Question: Won't it be a bit odd-looking out of the windscreen from that far back, with perspex windows for the rest of the driver's peripheral vision?
All of these specials are a compromise with vision but I am told that you soon get used to it .
It has already been discovered that having the air vent open improves vision to a degree .
It was thought that vision in modern single seater racers would be a problem with the halo system but this hasn't proved to be so .
The biggest change that many have reported is getting used to an altered position caused by the Hans device especially by those that like to sit fairly upright.


irocfan

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Wednesday 12th August 2020
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scottos said:
Excellent, you had me at 2cv and v8 laugh
This ^^^

grumpy52

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Wednesday 12th August 2020
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This was the original trigger for building the Caterham chassis special.
The builder was driving the Honda Prelude ( ex Rod Birley , Thunder saloons championship winning car )
500+BHP , Spice C2 underpinnings .
The Caterham just drove around him at Paddock bend but the Honda had him on the straights .
A Caterham with a body would be the way to go , 16 years later it's finally happening.

Petrolism

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Wednesday 12th August 2020
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grumpy52 said:
All of these specials are a compromise with vision but I am told that you soon get used to it .
It has already been discovered that having the air vent open improves vision to a degree .
It was thought that vision in modern single seater racers would be a problem with the halo system but this hasn't proved to be so .
The biggest change that many have reported is getting used to an altered position caused by the Hans device especially by those that like to sit fairly upright.
I drove a friend's Caterham R300 a few years ago, up a well-known test road here in Japan. Was fun, but did feel a little unusual turning the steering wheel, before the rear end followed when sitting so far back. No doubt it'll work in the 2CV, with a V8 at the front. I'd have chosen a high-revving 4-cylinder 2.7L Millington Diamond, myself, for the noise and the extra revability, notwithstanding cost though!

Looking forward to seeing it as progress develops.

grumpy52

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Friday 14th August 2020
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Engine mounts made and welded into place .

grumpy52

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grumpy52

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Sunday 16th August 2020
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Things might slow down for a while .
Peter , who is the owner , builder of the car , has a son Sammy who is 14 years old and a very keen speedway rider . He is the junior ambassador for Kent Invicta Speedway team . Unfortunately Sam had a big off today at Lydd and has broken both bones in his right ankle . He will find out overnight if he needs an operation to pin the fractures .
It doesn't help that he is in hospital 40 odd miles away from where they live .
Get well soon Sammy .

grumpy52

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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Radiator mounts finished and rad fitted .
Hoses to be sourced and fitted and brake ducts fabricated and fitted next .
The remote gear linkage is almost finished and the seat and steering column is all mounted properly.
The seat is that comfortable that Peter informs me he uses it when he has back aches or when he has longer phone calls to customers or suppliers to make .
His son is home from hospital after his speedway accident . They didn't pin his fractures but have plastered him from toes to upper thigh and recommend using a wheelchair for mobility . It will be 3 months before he is allowed on a motorcycle again.

GC8

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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Is this going to be raced? Has he spoken to the series scrutineer about the ROPS? Im not a scrute, but I would be surprised if they sign off on it with just a single roll hoop.

I realise that the car is built using an open type chassis, but it has a metal body and it is going to require a front section in order to protect the driver from the 2CV body, in the event of an accident.

grumpy52

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Thursday 20th August 2020
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It is going to be raced and will have a full cage .
The front cage will be added when all the other supports have been fabricated for the bodywork and ancillary systems. It's easier to do this without the front cage being in the way .
He does have nearly 40 years of experience with classic and racing cars and motorcycles .

grumpy52

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Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Gearbox all mounted , Radiator plumbed in and brake ducts fabricated .

grumpy52

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Saturday 22nd August 2020
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grumpy52

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All the parts are bits that have been hoarded over a 20 year period!
As the body will be totally detachable swaps could be a possibility, as the builder is a classic jaguar specialist it might be a coincidence that e types are of very similar dimensions and he does have access to a modsports shell .

grumpy52

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Wednesday 26th August 2020
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The car was put on the scales today.
The target is 600 kg .
It hit 495kg today but still needs fuel cell , front cage , carbs ( 4 x48 IDA ) and wiring, instruments , rear aerosol, flooring and front splitter .
There is some lightening of the panels and doors still to do .
It will be close but with an expected 400 -420 BHP, the power to weight ratio is looking pretty good .
The colour choice keeps changing, it was going to be along the lines of the black and yellow of factory Citroen 2CVs now it's erring towards black and silver . The Joy of doing it all in house is it can be changed very easily . It will be old school 70s style Special saloon scheme.

Don1

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Wednesday 26th August 2020
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White and green in true Dolly fashion?

anonymous-user

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Wednesday 26th August 2020
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grumpy52 said:
It will be close but with an expected 400 -420 BHP, t
Is it turbo'd?

Petrolism

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Aside from possibly using old parts, why not sell the carbs and put Jenvey throttle bodies on? Surely a decent modern closed loop ECU will make initial and further tuning a lot easier, whilst also allowing flat shifting, etc.?