Fury "Egoboost 2.0" - CBR1000RR to Ecoboost

Fury "Egoboost 2.0" - CBR1000RR to Ecoboost

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MagicalTrevor

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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How's about a good old engine replacement build thread?



I bought this Fury as an ex-750MC race car. It was fitted with a decent amount of toys and gadgets but with an older 2005 CBR1000RR engine with 165bhp. That's decent for an engine of its age but I compete in Sprinting and my class has the 375bhp SBD Westfield. I needed more!

I had an electric issue and the ECU no longer worked so rather than the easy option of changing the ECU, I decided to change the entire engine instead.

Why "Egoboost 2.0"? I used to own Ash Sutton's old Formula Ford Ecoboost, with a friend, which we dubbed "Egoboost". It was a brilliant car and I missed the buzz I got from it, this was my opportunity to try and recreate some of that.



Will it fit in the Fury chassis? Well that's a very good question, we knew the engine was around the same size as the Duratec and they fit in the chassis of a Stylus. The Fury is a very similar chassis so it must fit, right?

MagicalTrevor

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I created some funds by selling some of the old bits. Engine came out and then I started to clear some space in the engine bay.

I bought a 2015 1.6 Ecoboost engine with ~10k miles on it and then went about getting all the extra bits.

  • SCS Delta GDI4 Ecu with a 300bhp map
  • SCS Delta modified wiring loom
  • Titan dry sump
  • Titan bellhousing for a Type 9 gearbox
  • Turbo Technics S242 hybrid turbo good for 315bhp
  • SBD thermostat housing
  • SBD vacuum pump blanking plate
  • SBD rear heater solenoid blank
I'm going to have trouble with:
  • Pedal box as the turbo is extremely close to all the MCs
  • Finding a suitable gearbox for the torque.

MagicalTrevor

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Collected the engine and set about lowering the engine into place as it was to see what needed to be immediately removed. I'd already removed the ARB and a front chassis brace which will need to be refabricated







You can see that it looked tight but the aircon compressor was still attached, so that came right off! Then then massive alternator was in the way so that came off as well. I had my eye on a lighter one anyway but hopefully it doesn't need relocating.

MagicalTrevor

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Well it fits!

Left hand side


Front


Right hand side


Rear

Greg_D

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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that will be fun. 300 hp out of a 1.6.....
what are the regs for the class and motors, it always used to be 1.4 x capacity for turbos, so for a 1.6 would be 2.24 litres.
what does the sbd car run?

did you consider a rotary? 220 hp which is light, revs and doesn't have too much torque.

MagicalTrevor

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Greg_D said:
that will be fun. 300 hp out of a 1.6.....
what are the regs for the class and motors, it always used to be 1.4 x capacity for turbos, so for a 1.6 would be 2.24 litres.
what does the sbd car run?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it will be a lot of fun!

I'm in a Modified Specialist Production class, so that's not-road legal, slicks and it's an unlimited class so I could run any engine. The SBD Westfield also runs the 1.6 Ecoboost but with a much, much higher budget because it's their development car.

You're right, my equivalence is 2.24 litres but it doesn't make whether you have 1000cc or 6200cc in this class.

Greg_D

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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does anyone go completely batst in your class? ie: 4wd dax with 900 hp twin turbo LS etc... or is it all halfway sensible people just having fun?

MagicalTrevor

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The other concern was how high it might sit because it's quite a tall engine.



This is with the standard sump but I'm going to be fitting the Titan dry sump so this won't be a problem.



And then height looks ok to me. The Fury has different bonnets available and mine is the Le Mans bonnet with a bulge for bike engines. If it needs modifying then that's fine.

MagicalTrevor

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Greg_D said:
does anyone go completely batst in your class? ie: 4wd dax with 900 hp twin turbo LS etc... or is it all halfway sensible people just having fun?
SBD have gone pretty batst! I wouldn't say it was "sensible people just having fun", it's pretty serious and competitive but we are all friendly. I suppose nobody really wants to upset the balance and a nutter car like you've mentioned about would be quite costly and undriveable but feel free to enter with that! wink

joshleb

1,476 posts

116 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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That looks like it would be great fun!

Will you be doing any hillclimbs in that?

Mark Benson

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241 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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MagicalTrevor said:
Will it fit in the Fury chassis?
Pfft! We got a Rover V8 in a Fury once.

Was st, wheelspan in every gear, steering was awful and it understeered like a pig, but we got it in....

Evanivitch

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94 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Mark Benson said:
Pfft! We got a Rover V8 in a Fury once.

Was st, wheelspan in every gear, steering was awful and it understeered like a pig, but we got it in....
What power were you getting from it? I've seen some thoroughly unimpressive numbers stated for RV8 at times.

Mark Benson

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Evanivitch said:
Mark Benson said:
Pfft! We got a Rover V8 in a Fury once.

Was st, wheelspan in every gear, steering was awful and it understeered like a pig, but we got it in....
What power were you getting from it? I've seen some thoroughly unimpressive numbers stated for RV8 at times.
I suspect you'll remain unimpressed - around 160bhp from a 3.5 with a stonking great Edelbrock header. This was 15 years ago when 160bhp was...well, it was still unimpressive actually....

Evanivitch

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94 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Mark Benson said:
I suspect you'll remain unimpressed - around 160bhp from a 3.5 with a stonking great Edelbrock header. This was 15 years ago when 160bhp was...well, it was still unimpressive actually....
But it was fun nonetheless!


MagicalTrevor

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joshleb said:
That looks like it would be great fun!

Will you be doing any hillclimbs in that?
I'm scared of hillclimbs! laugh I don't like the proximity to trees, so it's just circuits for me.

Edited by MagicalTrevor on Friday 28th August 08:05

MagicalTrevor

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Mark Benson said:
I suspect you'll remain unimpressed - around 160bhp from a 3.5 with a stonking great Edelbrock header. This was 15 years ago when 160bhp was...well, it was still unimpressive actually....
But it'll sound better thumbup

MagicalTrevor

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Next step is to fit the dry sump as the height of that from the floor is critical to fitment of the engine mounts.

Konrod

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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Is that a Sylva Stylus in the background? Takes me back.......

MagicalTrevor

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For reference, the turbo I'm using was previously fitted to a Mygale Formula Ford with a similar spec engine. This was the dyno chart. I'm expecting similar as I would like the nice flat torque curve.


MagicalTrevor

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Konrod said:
Is that a Sylva Stylus in the background? Takes me back.......
It certainly is. Just going through a Duratec upgrade.