Recommissioning a barn find Volvo P1800ES

Recommissioning a barn find Volvo P1800ES

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croissant

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1,262 posts

138 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Fastdruid said:
My approach would be to do an oil change first, then I'd stick a healthy squirt of engine oil down the bores. Take the rocker cover off and liberally dose everything up top with oil. inc down the pushrod tubes (if you can).

Then turn over by hand with the rocker cover off and ensure all the valves/rockers/pushrods move freely.

If everything seems to turn over freely then turn it over on the starter until you get decent engine oil pressure. Stick some rags over the holes to ensure you don't spray oil *everywhere*.

Then plugs in, fresh fuel and send it.

EDIT: The worst concern really is sticking rings, either gummed up or just with rust when you turn it over and they scrape the surface rust off the cylinder walls. It will drink oil and have low compression if they are stuck. Then again it may get better over time...or it may not. You can try some of the top-end detergent type things. Basically fill each cylinder with them, leave overnight, empty and then change the oil (as it will typically leak down into the sump).

Edited by Fastdruid on Monday 28th September 17:42
Thanks for the feedback on the bore photos. I don't think they look too bad either all things considered.

My plan is pretty much as you say, but I'm going to fit a new fuel tank, fuel pump and filter first. The fuel is nasty and the tank rusting on the inside. I'm also planning a new ignition system before I go for a start including leads, plugs, rotor, cap, points, condensor and coil.

I have already sprayed some marvel mystery oil into the bores which is soaking in as we speak so I may give it a few turns with a spanner on the crank soon. Hopefully i don't crack a ring!





XRMike

213 posts

126 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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Pretty sure that engine should be OK, Volvo engines of that era are bulletproof.

The injection system on the other hand may cause some grief from my experience.

Good luck

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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After your Mini thread I'm looking forward to this!

croissant

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Monday 28th September 2020
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Greendubber said:
After your Mini thread I'm looking forward to this!
Thanks buddy... It's not been easy to get to the car with a full time job, an 18 month old in the house and the weather taking a turn.

croissant

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138 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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XRMike said:
Pretty sure that engine should be OK, Volvo engines of that era are bulletproof.

The injection system on the other hand may cause some grief from my experience.

Good luck
Yup! You're not the first person to say exactly this to me!!

CharlesdeGaulle

26,264 posts

180 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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What a wonderful car, and I'm in for the journey.

You say 'we', and the Mini thread featured your talented pal, so who is doing this with you? You're clearly very handy yourself, but is this a commercial deal or a bunch of blokes pitching-in free?

(Sorry for the nosiness; I love these threads but am a bit of a biff myself and have to pay everyone so the maths/affordability begins to not add up very quickly).

croissant

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Monday 28th September 2020
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
What a wonderful car, and I'm in for the journey.

You say 'we', and the Mini thread featured your talented pal, so who is doing this with you? You're clearly very handy yourself, but is this a commercial deal or a bunch of blokes pitching-in free?

(Sorry for the nosiness; I love these threads but am a bit of a biff myself and have to pay everyone so the maths/affordability begins to not add up very quickly).
Thanks and fair question. The mini was done with my pal but that’s my car. He just helped on that.

This car is being done with my brother who’s also a petrol head. He’s local and it’s a great excuse to spend time together and escape our respective families! We’ll have joint ownership of this... it will also splits the burden of inevitable incoming costs

itz_baseline

821 posts

221 months

Monday 28th September 2020
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This looks great to me. Looking forward to the updates.

e46m3c

874 posts

155 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Looking forward to seeing this progress.

Interestingly there was a car identical to this on a trackday at thruxton yesterday. Volvo are investing in this car for restomods and they were there with ohlin developing the suspension system.

croissant

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Tuesday 29th September 2020
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e46m3c said:
Looking forward to seeing this progress.

Interestingly there was a car identical to this on a trackday at thruxton yesterday. Volvo are investing in this car for restomods and they were there with ohlin developing the suspension system.
That sounds interesting! Did you get an pics?

Polestar have recently built a restomod coupe version with 400bhp.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-volvo-cyan-p1...

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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What a delightful fraternal project, OP. I hope that it goes well. I sadly said no to a 1970 Volvo 145 a few months ago, because it had too much rust underneath, but I was very impressed by the engineering and build quality on that car. Hopefully that quality will shine through on the P1800 as you proceed with the recommissioning

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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I add that shooting brakes are in my view amongst the best sort of cars ever, and I am surprised that there are so few of them. An elegant, low slung, sporty estate with two doors, four or five seats, and a big hatch is a great combo. Think Lancia HPE, Scimitar GTE, Lotus Elite, and a handful of others. For things such as Lotus Elan and Jaguar XJS shooting brakes, you have to look to very rare and very expensive aftermarket conversions.

lockhart flawse

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235 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Agreed BV. It's my ideal sort of car. The Brera is the closest I can find/afford at the moment but that's really a coupe although the back seats do fold down to give a decent loading area. The back seats are too small to sit in if you have legs and I think the car would have been better as a 2 seater.

Great project OP.

croissant

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Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
What a delightful fraternal project, OP. I hope that it goes well. I sadly said no to a 1970 Volvo 145 a few months ago, because it had too much rust underneath, but I was very impressed by the engineering and build quality on that car. Hopefully that quality will shine through on the P1800 as you proceed with the recommissioning
Thanks! We're looking forward to getting stuck into this. I'm itching to get back to it, but work commitments and weekend arrangements are taking up all my time currently.

It certainly is built like a tank. The doors close with a reassuring thump and clunk as they latch and even the bonnet release is 9" long metal lever under the dash that swings 90 degrees and locks into place. It's like latching a submarine door.

As far as condition goes, it seems to be in top order with only surface rot evident on a few suspension arms. We'll see what we unearth as we delve into it though!


Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,899 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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I’ve just read your Mini thread, and it has been one of my favourite threads in a long time. The finished car looks brilliant.

With this (I know it’s not the norm) but with it needing so much mechanically, would you not fancy 'modernising' it, rather than recommissioning it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Noooooooooo!

A few sympathetic modernisations such as electronic ignition are fine, but I can never understand why people do things such as put modern engines into classic cars. The character of a 1960s or 1970s car is based on its engine, drivetrain, suspension, and so on.

croissant

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Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Lord_Howit_Hertz said:
I’ve just read your Mini thread, and it has been one of my favourite threads in a long time. The finished car looks brilliant.

With this (I know it’s not the norm) but with it needing so much mechanically, would you not fancy 'modernising' it, rather than recommissioning it?
Thanks! The mini project was a lot of fun and only possible with the help of my friend and his workshop. If this was a rolling shell then maybe I'd consider something wild. I had thought that this would look great lowered on air ride with some nice dished 20" wheels and a modern straight 6 up front.

The reality is I wouldn't have purchased this car if that was the case as I don't currently have tools, time or space for a project on that scale.

This car is complete and it deserves to be kept original. It wasn't that long ago I was tuning 90s Japanese turbo cars within an inch of their lives, but lately I'm only interested in return classics to original factory spec.




anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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You are a hero!

CallThatMusic

2,565 posts

88 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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croissant said:
Lord_Howit_Hertz said:
I’ve just read your Mini thread, and it has been one of my favourite threads in a long time. The finished car looks brilliant.

With this (I know it’s not the norm) but with it needing so much mechanically, would you not fancy 'modernising' it, rather than recommissioning it?
Thanks! The mini project was a lot of fun and only possible with the help of my friend and his workshop. If this was a rolling shell then maybe I'd consider something wild. I had thought that this would look great lowered on air ride with some nice dished 20" wheels and a modern straight 6 up front.

The reality is I wouldn't have purchased this car if that was the case as I don't currently have tools, time or space for a project on that scale.

This car is complete and it deserves to be kept original. It wasn't that long ago I was tuning 90s Japanese turbo cars within an inch of their lives, but lately I'm only interested in return classics to original factory spec.

Good man.
Good luck , will follow with interest.

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Tuesday 29th September 2020
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Enjoyed the Mini thread and looking forward to this one! Don't finish it too quickly this time!