The Alternative Italian Job - A Classic Mini Build
The Alternative Italian Job - A Classic Mini Build
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Fast Bug

13,242 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Superhoop said:
andy43 said:
Spotted the english wheel in one of the pics. This could be interesting!
From this, I can only assume you haven't read through the OP's M Compact thread.. ?? If you haven't, it's worth a read - Be prepared to lose a few hours of your life though..
This, pop the kettle on and grab yourself a biscuit or 2 and have a read. It's worth looking just to spot the worlds greatest dustpan biggrin

ayedubya

253 posts

68 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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a definite bookmark worthy thread! dream since i was a kid to do up a classic mini. alas i am cack-handed with no mechanical skills whatsoever and living in an apartment with no garage also contributes to this remaining a pipe dream! biggrin i will live vicariously through you in this build. thanks for sharing! a true craftsman!

Superhoop

4,859 posts

216 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Fast Bug said:
Superhoop said:
andy43 said:
Spotted the english wheel in one of the pics. This could be interesting!
From this, I can only assume you haven't read through the OP's M Compact thread.. ?? If you haven't, it's worth a read - Be prepared to lose a few hours of your life though..
This, pop the kettle on and grab yourself a biscuit or 2 and have a read. It's worth looking just to spot the worlds greatest dustpan biggrin
I was just going to say the same about the world's best dust pan.. I've popped a link in for the thread..

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

B'stard Child

30,798 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Superhoop said:
Fast Bug said:
Superhoop said:
andy43 said:
Spotted the english wheel in one of the pics. This could be interesting!
From this, I can only assume you haven't read through the OP's M Compact thread.. ?? If you haven't, it's worth a read - Be prepared to lose a few hours of your life though..
This, pop the kettle on and grab yourself a biscuit or 2 and have a read. It's worth looking just to spot the worlds greatest dustpan biggrin
I was just going to say the same about the world's best dust pan.. I've popped a link in for the thread..

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Or the "life size" airfix kit - in shot in an earlier picture

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Jonmx said:
Awesome!

I remember as a kid my dad buying a mini that had sat in someone's hedge for 10 years and we spent a good month getting it up and running (circa 1990). Everyone should have a Mini story in their lives.
Its surprising how many Mini's ended up being garden features, I remember a few local to me being in hedges etc. Probably all scrapped now!

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Terzo123 said:
Brilliant stuff.
Thanks thumbup

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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n3il123 said:
Stop teasing!

I've always had a bit of a thing for the classic mini, never got around to owning one, just checked the prices of them ..... ouch!
Yep, the prices of them keep going up.... even ones that are strong money are more than likely hiding some horrors!

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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B'stard Child said:
I'm gonna bookmark this just for the journey...............

I actually hate minis after I spend 5 years welding up one for a nephew to see it sold when it was finished!!! The are awful things to work on and rust everywhere (I like Opels and I thought they were bad)

It's probably gonna trigger bad memories biggrin
Well, I bet that was a kick in the balls!. When the bodyshells are un-blasted they are quite grotty to work on, once they are blasted and you can actually see what your looking at they are relatively simple things.


amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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RoadRunner220 said:
After reading, and being utterly amazed by, your BMW thread, this one is a must subscribe.

Can't wait to see how this turns out.
Thank you, I can see this being quite a long involved thread thumbup

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Fast Bug said:
I sold Rovers in 98-00ish, so sold a fair few Mini's as the other sales guys hated them. Quite often they were delivered with rust starting to appear in the gutters, so the state of that doesn't surprise me laugh
Brilliant laugh , I remember being told that in the last few years of production the steel was sourced elsewhere and was more likely to suffer with corrosion.

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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ayedubya said:
a definite bookmark worthy thread! dream since i was a kid to do up a classic mini. alas i am cack-handed with no mechanical skills whatsoever and living in an apartment with no garage also contributes to this remaining a pipe dream! biggrin i will live vicariously through you in this build. thanks for sharing! a true craftsman!
Thank you, I shall try my best to keep everything well documented!

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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B'stard Child said:
Superhoop said:
Fast Bug said:
Superhoop said:
andy43 said:
Spotted the english wheel in one of the pics. This could be interesting!
From this, I can only assume you haven't read through the OP's M Compact thread.. ?? If you haven't, it's worth a read - Be prepared to lose a few hours of your life though..
This, pop the kettle on and grab yourself a biscuit or 2 and have a read. It's worth looking just to spot the worlds greatest dustpan biggrin
I was just going to say the same about the world's best dust pan.. I've popped a link in for the thread..

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Or the "life size" airfix kit - in shot in an earlier picture
Thanks guys! Yes, if your going to read that whole thread you'll need a few hours! That bloody dustpan laugh


amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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So with the Mini blasted, braced and on the rotisserie it was time to start cutting it up and fitting some of the new panels.

The first items to replace were the Inner/Outer Sills and Heel Boards, these were either rusted away, showing signs of corrosion or had some past "iffy" repairs (not my work).

The "iffy" repairs (welding looks like bird poo)



After marking a centre line in the middle of the car, measurements were taken from this to the centres the bolt holes where the rear subframe mounts to the heel board panel. Once the Inner Sills and Heel Board had been very carefully marked out, all the spot welds were drilled and the rest was cut using a grinder,



The new panels were prepared, butted up (no overlapping) and tacked into place using a MIG welder as it's easier to align them like this.



All the MIG tacks were flatted off lightly with the grinder, and then the Inner Sill was fully TIG welded into place, as was the Heel board. Where the spot welds would have been originally, the panels were puddle welded.

The welds were hammer and dolly'd smooth to remove any heat distortion, then ground smooth.









The Inside of the Outer Sill panel was painted (with something, I can't remember what) to help future proof them, as was the outside of the Inner Sill (basically the cavity inbetween the two Sills). Any where that was going to be exposed to heat from welding a zinc weld through primer was used.

The new Outer Sill was then Puddle Welded into place and then the welds were ground smooth,





This process was also repeated on the other side.

A Jig/fixture was then made that went inside the boot area, it was bolted to the parcel shelf and picked up on the rear arch tubs where the shocks are mounted, the car was then moved onto some hefty tressels where the car was levelled.

I then carefully chopped the rear quarter off and removed the arch tub,



That's all for now!








Stick Legs

8,283 posts

188 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Love a project like this, the knowledge that everything is just right must be so satisfying!

ndtman

752 posts

204 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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+1 thumbup

Krikkit

27,831 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Love this so far, very jealous of your mad skills.

ATM

20,939 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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amc_adam said:
I had also bought a VW MK1 Caddy unfinished project, which turned out to be quite a big project in the end as the majority of it was bodged. I ended up respraying it it the garage, made the one-off wheels etc,



Whoah there cowboy

We need a lot more details on this or another thread in its own right surely

R56Cooper

2,533 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Awesome thread, loving the back story and your skills are immense. Defo here for the journey.

Always loved Minis, biggest regret is when I was 18 not buying a couple when they could be had for a few hundred quid.

I know the BINI doesn't really count but I love hooning around in my R56 smile

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Stick Legs said:
Love a project like this, the knowledge that everything is just right must be so satisfying!
It will be as close as it was originally, not that they were very close out of the factory... half of them crab down the road laugh

amc_adam

Original Poster:

393 posts

93 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Krikkit said:
Love this so far, very jealous of your mad skills.
Thanks, plenty more to come!