Peugeot 205 XR

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ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Have you thought about pricing up a complete new rear beam? Would save a lot of hassle - here's one that looks decent at £75:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-Rear-Beam-c...

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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ReverendCounter said:
Have you thought about pricing up a complete new rear beam? Would save a lot of hassle - here's one that looks decent at £75:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-Rear-Beam-c...
I haven't - is it an easy driveway job to remove and refit?

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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PrinceRupert said:
I haven't - is it an easy driveway job to remove and refit?
Actually one of the easier jobs on a 205 IMO.

Drop backbox, disconnect handbrake cables, and spare wheel. If it's a bare beam you won't need to disconnect brake wheel cylinders hopefully.

Cambs_Stuart

2,855 posts

84 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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I've been looking at replacing the rear beam on my clio. But there is a lot of crusty looking bolts putting me off.

ReverendCounter

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
PrinceRupert said:
I haven't - is it an easy driveway job to remove and refit?
Actually one of the easier jobs on a 205 IMO.

Drop backbox, disconnect handbrake cables, and spare wheel. If it's a bare beam you won't need to disconnect brake wheel cylinders hopefully.
This might give you a good idea of whether you'd want to tackle it:

https://www.205gtidrivers.com/articles/articles-gu...

PrinceRupert

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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Successful day today.



Drilled a hole in the bolt, screwed in my screw extractor. Bolt wouldn't budge. Applied a lot of heat with a blowtorch through shank of extractor, turned, it moved! Got it about halfway out...extractor snapped cry drilled the remains out. Will need to re tap the thread. Bought a set today but stupid me bought the wrong size. Got an m8 coming from amazon...



Seats out! Simply drilled it out. Still need to get the bolt free thats still in the rail and probably re tap the thread in the floor. Good news - the front isnt rotten. I think i can fix it without welding by simply bolting a plate across the gap. Gonna try that....

ReverendCounter

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176 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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REEZULT! I mean, having to tap a new thread is a bit of ball ache but it's better than dealing with removing/fitting another beam. I think your seat fix is a good alternative to getting a new captive nut welded in or whatever.

PrinceRupert

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Sunday 31st January 2021
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Helicoiling appears to have been a success. Just need some M8 bolts now. Also got to use my angle grinder to grind the remaining bolt from the seat rail. Always good fun. Need to find an appropriate bracket to use to fix/bodge the front seat mount.

PrinceRupert

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Monday 8th February 2021
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Progress has slowed on the little Peugeot as the weather has got colder. However I did complete one job today - rear bump stops are now fitted. And no need to drop the axle as was threatened! Drilled it out, helicoiled it (was a bit difficult given the angle but got the threads cut straight eventually) and in fact reused a seat bolt which was the right size.



I need to get the seat refitted as a priority and then the radiator replaced. I'm pretty sure the radiator i have won't work with my coolant level sensor again, may just need to get a cap and go without a coolant level sensor...

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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You'll get there!

It's more than I've done, have you a garage?

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 9th February 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
You'll get there!

It's more than I've done, have you a garage?
No garage, but I do have a carport which is reasonably well protected at three sides which helps. Though the Peugeot will be getting chucked out of the carport as my third car will be arriving soon ...



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Cambs_Stuart

2,855 posts

84 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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That is fantastic. Good purchase!

PrinceRupert

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85 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Taking advantage of the warmer weather to get back at the 205.

Radiator back out.




Turns out with a bit of filing down of plastic flashing and persuasion the coolant sensor fits in the new radiator. It may have fitted in the old one after all...


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Old thermostat was not faulty but good to replace it whilst I'm in there. My better half was delighted at the boiling of car parts in her kitchen...



PrinceRupert

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Saturday 20th February 2021
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Snapped another feckin bolt. This time in the thermostat housing. Can't drill the stupid thing out, managed to drill part of the bloody housing in trying. Dismantled half the car to get better access. What was an easy one hour job is now gonna be days of pain trying to get this stupid bolt out. Arrgghhhhh

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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Where did you get that thermometer from? Great idea as it tells you the opening temperature!

I also use that trick, but she says as long as I clean the pot I'm fine. I do more car-related stuff in the house (should see the dining room!) but she knows it's my passion and hobby and would rather me be inside than outside soaking wet and ill!

Send a pic of the broken bolt, might be able to sort that with some of those extractor drill things I bought a few years ago for a broken stud in the exhaust housing of a turbo. Managed to get it out without damaging the thread. These are the Laser ones, available in your local Halfrauds:

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/automoti...

They aren't amazing, but drilling the centre of the remains of the bolt, some heat (if safe) and some penetrating oil down the centre drilled portion (hopefully the bolt doesn't go as far as the end of the threaded hole), leave it for an hour, more heat, more oil and use the extractor.

PrinceRupert

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Saturday 20th February 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
Where did you get that thermometer from? Great idea as it tells you the opening temperature!

I also use that trick, but she says as long as I clean the pot I'm fine. I do more car-related stuff in the house (should see the dining room!) but she knows it's my passion and hobby and would rather me be inside than outside soaking wet and ill!

Send a pic of the broken bolt, might be able to sort that with some of those extractor drill things I bought a few years ago for a broken stud in the exhaust housing of a turbo. Managed to get it out without damaging the thread. These are the Laser ones, available in your local Halfrauds:

https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/automoti...

They aren't amazing, but drilling the centre of the remains of the bolt, some heat (if safe) and some penetrating oil down the centre drilled portion (hopefully the bolt doesn't go as far as the end of the threaded hole), leave it for an hour, more heat, more oil and use the extractor.
Tried with an extractor, didn't work. think I've fked it by not drilling straight. Given up for the day but hoping I can drill it out and then helicoil it...

mercedeslimos

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169 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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PrinceRupert said:
Tried with an extractor, didn't work. think I've fked it by not drilling straight. Given up for the day but hoping I can drill it out and then Helicoil it...
Not the end of the world, what part of the engine are you drilling into? Worst case you drill slightly oversize. If this happens get some JB Weld. Get the bolt you want to use (or better again, get a stud, exhaust stud, or something). JB weld it into place if the hole is gone oval and screw it in, taking JB weld in with it. This will strengthen the hole up. Let it dry and use a nut on the stud instead of a bolt.

Fingers crossed. None of it is the end of the world, at least there's a half-decent amount of space in that bay.

PrinceRupert

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Sunday 21st February 2021
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Mixed day today. Starting to get pissed off at this stupid car...or should I say my poor mechanics skills.

After several hours of suffering I managed to get the bolt drilled out and helicoiled, and managed to get the thermostat installed. Success! Put it all back together, filled up the coolant. Coolant started pissing out the bottom of the thermostat housing onto my drive. Plugged it with a finger and couldn't for the life of me find the bloody hose that should connect to the housing. Eventually found it and connected it up and put more coolant in. Thought it was sorted...nope. leaking out the bottom of the thermostat housing I just fitted. Fml. Not sure why. I didn't tighten the bolts super tight as I was worried about snapping another bolt, so maybe it's that. Or maybe the hole I drilled was slightly in the wrong place and broke the seal. Don't know. All I know is I need to take it apart again and I really cba...

...could I use some sort of liquid gasket to ensure a decent seal?

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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You might have to bite the bullet and tighten the thermostat housing down beyond what you currently feel comfortable with. I would try doing this bit by bit while the coolant is trickling out and only tighten it to the point it stops, maybe just past there, rather than up tight from the outset, but the new threads should be capable of taking a bit of torque.

Maybe there's an issue with the thermostat housing gasket/seal. You could probably get away with either making one out of some silicon sheet or like you say some sealant which is OK with higher temps.

Obviously the coolant system is pressurised so that needs to be taken into account when you're tightening things up.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 21st February 2021
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Thanks. If it is just it needs to be tighter then that would be great as I probably wouldn't need to dismantle it again. I really don't want to snap another bolt though...