Abandoned Range Rover P38... Resurrection or Bust
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C70R said:
As others have said, I've really enjoyed your attitude towards this old truck, and admire your persistence to getting it roadworthy again.
All that being said, it was always going to be a challenge to press this Range into regular service, moreso if your partner struggles to get in easily.
Even if you do move it on, you can take comfort in knowing that you saved one from scrap.
As mentioned above, there's no need to go 'full Avensis' from here, even if you need sensible motoring. You could always compromise with something a bit more rugged, like a Subaru Forester/Legacy/Outback or V70XC.
Thank you for your kind words.All that being said, it was always going to be a challenge to press this Range into regular service, moreso if your partner struggles to get in easily.
Even if you do move it on, you can take comfort in knowing that you saved one from scrap.
As mentioned above, there's no need to go 'full Avensis' from here, even if you need sensible motoring. You could always compromise with something a bit more rugged, like a Subaru Forester/Legacy/Outback or V70XC.
No Subarus for me I'm afraid. I'm not that much of a masochist.
A friend recently caught an old V70 as a daily and I've spent quite a few hours helping him trying to get it reliable and useable so I'll pass on that.
I love the reliability of the Lexus, hence my move towards either Honda or Toyota for SWMBO's daily. I can then concentrate resources (time and money) on the TVR and Rover or maybe even begin a new car based adventure.
If only she'd drive the Lexus it would make life so much easier. She's usually easy going about this stuff but she prefers a manual as she thinks driving an auto will de-skill her driving
Edited by Tyre Tread on Thursday 23 March 16:06
Tom4398cc said:
Worried about de-skilling her driving? Simple - she can daily drive the auto Lexus but do 3 or 4 tracks days a year in anything manual to keep her hand in!
She's in her 60's with a bad hip and I refer to her as my rev limiter. The one occasion she has driven me in the TVR, we were overtaken by a Diesel discovery 5 up going up a hill on the 4 lane A6. The idea of her driving on a track is amazing but unlikely.agent006 said:
Get her to do IAM Masters in an auto if she's worried about de-skilling.
Her driving is very good if, to me at least, a bit pedestrian.I think it's more to do with the fact that when her old dad started to drive autos into his late 50's his driving became sloppy so she is wary of falling into the same trap. I've tried to tell her that the fact she is aware of that potential trap is indicative of the fact she is unlikely to go the same way but... woman.
I had an XFS jag for a while which Mrs TT drove a few times and each time she drove it there was a gearbox fault warning. It seems she left foot brakes and right foot accelerates and at time she was (slightly) overlapping braking and accelerating and the gearbox detected that as a fault.
In all the cars she has had Mrs TT has never gone through a clutch (that includes an Audi A4 diesel that she took from 20K miles to 196K miles (The buyer wouldn't believe me that it had never had the clutch replaced) . She has much mechanical sympathy and likes to drive. She learned to drive (as a civilian) at Hendon Police driving school when she was 17.
I've widenened the search for a replacement from Auris Estate to Avensis or Mazda 6 Estate. (Petrol, Manual)
If what she end up with is suitable as our main car (our youngest are currently 16 years old i.e the Jazz and Lexus) then I might look at something a bit more fun as the second car (GT86) or even try without one for a while and make more use of the TVR and Rover P5
Huntsman said:
Nice P5. Jensen wheels?
Thank you. Yes. The originals were way past their best and I like to Jensen Wheels which are a direct replacement (different nuts obvs) and I always thought the Coupe should have had different wheels to differentiate it further from the saloon.I still have the original wheels in the loft but they're pricey to refurb
Tyre Tread said:
Thank you. Yes. The originals were way past their best and I like to Jensen Wheels which are a direct replacement (different nuts obvs) and I always thought the Coupe should have had different wheels to differentiate it further from the saloon.
I still have the original wheels in the loft but they're pricey to refurb
I have a set of 14" Wolfies to out on my estate P6 , but a 14" set of Rostyles would be perfect.I still have the original wheels in the loft but they're pricey to refurb
Huntsman said:
Tyre Tread said:
Thank you. Yes. The originals were way past their best and I like to Jensen Wheels which are a direct replacement (different nuts obvs) and I always thought the Coupe should have had different wheels to differentiate it further from the saloon.
I still have the original wheels in the loft but they're pricey to refurb
I have a set of 14" Wolfies to out on my estate P6 , but a 14" set of Rostyles would be perfect.I still have the original wheels in the loft but they're pricey to refurb
I believe there are reproduction Ro-styles available. : https://www.martinrobey.com/part/15532
My phone has just popped up with an "On this day..." reminder that it is a year today since I went and viewed the Lord Nelson.
Not much happened with it recently except I have given it a second wash (TFR, snow foam, Hand wash) and it looks a little better (well it did until I went out in it on these horribly wet Welsh roads).
I tried taking it for a local garage (that did the ball joints and last MOT) to look at the suspension knock but for stupid reasons it didn't happen and I need to get it booked in again.
Still waiting for friend's Nanocom to come back from the manufacturer replaced or repaired so I can accurately diagnose and sort the intermittent SRS light and the HeVAC.
Friend came to visit in his 2017 supercharged RR Sport over the weekend. Although the interior is more modern and obviously it has more power it's clear the recipe hasn't changed and although the cars are almost 20 years apart, there's not much changed in terms of what goes into them to give that feel good factor.
The hunt continues for a sensible dogmobile for Mrs TT but she does very little mileage so reluctant to throw substantial money at it. Really we need to sell 3 cars and buy 1 (If she's just accept that autos are OK we could just use the bloody Lexus!). Oh well.
Not much happened with it recently except I have given it a second wash (TFR, snow foam, Hand wash) and it looks a little better (well it did until I went out in it on these horribly wet Welsh roads).
I tried taking it for a local garage (that did the ball joints and last MOT) to look at the suspension knock but for stupid reasons it didn't happen and I need to get it booked in again.
Still waiting for friend's Nanocom to come back from the manufacturer replaced or repaired so I can accurately diagnose and sort the intermittent SRS light and the HeVAC.
Friend came to visit in his 2017 supercharged RR Sport over the weekend. Although the interior is more modern and obviously it has more power it's clear the recipe hasn't changed and although the cars are almost 20 years apart, there's not much changed in terms of what goes into them to give that feel good factor.
The hunt continues for a sensible dogmobile for Mrs TT but she does very little mileage so reluctant to throw substantial money at it. Really we need to sell 3 cars and buy 1 (If she's just accept that autos are OK we could just use the bloody Lexus!). Oh well.
Tom4398cc said:
Mr Tyre Tread,
With all the skill and perseverance you’ve shown with the P38 over the last 12 months, it strikes me that you’d be able to tackle and succeed at a gearbox change. So how about keeping the Lexus but changing the gearbox to a manual for Mrs TT?
Thank you for the vote of confidence but it would be easier and cheaper to sell the auto and buy a manual but the manual is more expensive to tax and I like the Auto as it suits the Lexus.With all the skill and perseverance you’ve shown with the P38 over the last 12 months, it strikes me that you’d be able to tackle and succeed at a gearbox change. So how about keeping the Lexus but changing the gearbox to a manual for Mrs TT?
Just a brief update. The Nanocom returned at long last and today, in between working on the house, I managed to resolve the SRS light issue so I can book it in for a MoT this week.
Haven't managed to resolve the HeVAC issue but that can wait and be the new owners challenge I think.
The shame is that the car is now running really well and I have been using it quite a bit. I did 2 X 50 mile round trips yesterday without a hiccup and was quite enjoying cruising up and down the A470 on cruise control at 60 watching the plebs go by.
I picked a a huge rug and a stone bench and the old boy just swallowed them in the cavernous boot and completely ignored the weight.
Oh well.
Haven't managed to resolve the HeVAC issue but that can wait and be the new owners challenge I think.
The shame is that the car is now running really well and I have been using it quite a bit. I did 2 X 50 mile round trips yesterday without a hiccup and was quite enjoying cruising up and down the A470 on cruise control at 60 watching the plebs go by.
I picked a a huge rug and a stone bench and the old boy just swallowed them in the cavernous boot and completely ignored the weight.
Oh well.
Got4wheels said:
Thats a real shame that you're moving it on TT, but I can completely understand after everything it has put you through. Are you sure you won't have a change of heart again?
Michael
Can't justify it if SWMBO can't drive it. So someone will get a reasonably well sorted P38 that goes, stops, rises and falls and turns as it should. Will just need some cosmetics and things like the aircon sortingMichael
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