2022 Mercedes GLE400d

[PinkHouse]

ST565NP said:

cerb4.5lee said:

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My missus is really peed off with the car now(she does a lot of miles in it, so she's lost confidence in it), so I reckon there will be a good chance that it will get swapped for something else. Although I'm/we're not sure what to go for though. Time will tell.

Mazda CX-60 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKA82wFx88

Aston DBX!

[cerb4.5lee]

PinkHouse said:

ST565NP said:

cerb4.5lee said:

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My missus is really peed off with the car now(she does a lot of miles in it, so she's lost confidence in it), so I reckon there will be a good chance that it will get swapped for something else. Although I'm/we're not sure what to go for though. Time will tell.

Mazda CX-60 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKA82wFx88

Aston DBX!

I wasn't aware of the CX-60 thanks. Plus I wouldn't say no to the DBX either!

[cerb4.5lee]

cerb4.5lee said:

I had the fifth set of rear tyres fitted yesterday, and it will be interesting to see how long these last. Hopefully longer than 3 months/8.5k miles though!

If they don't last, I will go back to Pirellis if I can get them.

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

[cerb4.5lee]

cerb4.5lee said:

It had another hissy fit yesterday, and it went into limp mode, and the fans came on, and they sound like an aeroplane taking off when they do. It disconnects the turbos, and you lose loads of power, and the revs sit really high versus normal.

I think the car thinks that it is overheating, although it actually isn't though. So I reckon there must be a dodgy sensor somewhere I think.

I don't want to tempt fate but the car has behaved itself(touchwood) since March. The only thing we've done differently is actually use the stop/start(leave it operating). Whereas prior to then we always switched it off though.

It might not be linked of course, but it has been behaving ever since though.

[cerb4.5lee]

It is back on the Pirelli P-Zero now, so we will see how they fair wear wise. The original set that were on it from the factory did wear well though in fairness. I also had a 4 wheel alignment done at the same time, because it has been running the outside edge off a bit on the front passenger side.

[Wheelspinning]

cerb4.5lee said:

It is back on the Pirelli P-Zero now, so we will see how they fair wear wise. The original set that were on it from the factory did wear well though in fairness. I also had a 4 wheel alignment done at the same time, because it has been running the outside edge off a bit on the front passenger side.

An incredible amount of tyres.

For what it's worth, until 2 years ago we always ran AMGs from around 2001, the last being a GLS63 and a V250 AMG at the same time.

Every single one of them scrubbed the outers on the front at a frightening rate.

Since moving to Range Rover, no crabbing and no outer wear.

I'm not sure how MB manage it.

[cerb4.5lee]

Wheelspinning said:

An incredible amount of tyres.

For what it's worth, until 2 years ago we always ran AMGs from around 2001, the last being a GLS63 and a V250 AMG at the same time.

Every single one of them scrubbed the outers on the front at a frightening rate.

Since moving to Range Rover, no crabbing and no outer wear.

I'm not sure how MB manage it.

It is mental how it eats through rear tyres as you say for sure. The fronts don't do too bad wear wise though in comparison.

It is funny that you mention the scrubbing on the outer edge too, because our old GLC350d was bad for that on the front passenger as well.

I did manage to get these P-Zero for a £100 cheaper than everyone else was selling them at on Asda Tyres(£346 each instead of £457). However I think someone had made a mistake with the price though, because they've gone back up to £457 again now.

The wear(especially the rears) and cost of the tyres is definitely something to think about with these when you're running the 22" wheels I reckon.

[Wheelspinning]

cerb4.5lee said:

It is mental how it eats through rear tyres as you say for sure. The fronts don't do too bad wear wise though in comparison.

It is funny that you mention the scrubbing on the outer edge too, because our old GLC350d was bad for that on the front passenger as well.

I did manage to get these P-Zero for a £100 cheaper than everyone else was selling them at on Asda Tyres(£346 each instead of £457). However I think someone had made a mistake with the price though, because they've gone back up to £457 again now.

The wear(especially the rears) and cost of the tyres is definitely something to think about with these when you're running the 22" wheels I reckon.

I put up with it without too much thought at the time, but now after 2 years and no new tyres required with Range Rovers, I now see it as a totally unacceptable expense and won't be going back to MB.

[Wills2]

cerb4.5lee said:

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

God that is poor my X3M wasn't great on tyres they lasted about 14k continentals I think, heavy AWD cars tend to eat tyres, I get well over 30,000 miles on the 7 series but to be fair I'd get 25k+ on all the RWD M cars as well.

[peetee7]

Hiya mate! I’m thinking of picking up a GLE400d for dad. Thank you for the thread it’s very informative. Just my 2 pence about the tyre situation. It is generally good practice to buy tyres which are SUV rated. They are manufactured to cope with the higher weight of an SUV. I know as car enthusiasts we naturally lean towards Eagle F1’s, Michelin PSX’s and ContiSport 7’s etc , but they’ll wear fast on a heavy car with a high centre of gravity

Just my personal reconmendation, the Pirelli Scorpions are an excellent choice. It’ll make your GLE400d unstoppable in all weather, snow, rain etc In my opinion an all wheel drive SUV must be absolutely unstoppable in all weather therefore a good SUV all season tyre is the way to go. I’m not 100% sure what the wear rate will be like but I’m sure it’ll be decent

[Sheepshanks]

cerb4.5lee said:

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

Wonder how US owners get on - mileage warranties are common there.

[cerb4.5lee]

Wills2 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

God that is poor my X3M wasn't great on tyres they lasted about 14k continentals I think, heavy AWD cars tend to eat tyres, I get well over 30,000 miles on the 7 series but to be fair I'd get 25k+ on all the RWD M cars as well.

Yes bud and I managed just over 25k miles on both the front and rear in the M4 on the MPSS too. So in general the Michelins are pretty good wear wise I reckon...just not on this thing though!

[cerb4.5lee]

peetee7 said:

Hiya mate! I’m thinking of picking up a GLE400d for dad. Thank you for the thread it’s very informative. Just my 2 pence about the tyre situation. It is generally good practice to buy tyres which are SUV rated. They are manufactured to cope with the higher weight of an SUV. I know as car enthusiasts we naturally lean towards Eagle F1’s, Michelin PSX’s and ContiSport 7’s etc , but they’ll wear fast on a heavy car with a high centre of gravity

Just my personal reconmendation, the Pirelli Scorpions are an excellent choice. It’ll make your GLE400d unstoppable in all weather, snow, rain etc In my opinion an all wheel drive SUV must be absolutely unstoppable in all weather therefore a good SUV all season tyre is the way to go. I’m not 100% sure what the wear rate will be like but I’m sure it’ll be decent

Thanks a lot for this, and I'm pleased that the thread has been of some interest to you.

When I was on my recent tyre search I did notice that you can get both winters and all seasons in this tyre size now. Whereas when we first got the car the choice of tyres was much more limited in comparison.

Should we keep the car for the longer term, then the all seasons will definitely be the way forward I think. The all seasons were fantastic wear wise on the previous GLC350d we had for sure(50k miles on the front and 75k miles on the rear!).

[cerb4.5lee]

Sheepshanks said:

Wonder how US owners get on - mileage warranties are common there.

Yes and I believe that Michelin offer around a 30k mile warranty on their tyres as you say. 8.5k miles has fell well short on this for sure.

[Mandat]

Hi Lee

Do you mind me asking who you insure the GLE with?

As per my own recent thread, I am having difficulties with getting quotes for my GLE, as many mainstream insurers are refusing to quote because of the mild hybrid element to the car.

I'm currently insured with Aviva but I'm looking for alternative quotes as Aviva's renewal is very high.

Thanks.

[cerb4.5lee]

Mandat said:

Hi Lee

Do you mind me asking who you insure the GLE with?

As per my own recent thread, I am having difficulties with getting quotes for my GLE, as many mainstream insurers are refusing to quote because of the mild hybrid element to the car.

I'm currently insured with Aviva but I'm looking for alternative quotes as Aviva's renewal is very high.

Thanks.

Hi mate, we are insured with LV. It does keep climbing in price each year(like most cars are in fairness), but it isn't totally daft money yet. I think it is currently around £1,100 a year for us. I'm in my 50's though, and my missus is late 40's for reference.

We were considering the current Range Rover Sport(diesel) recently, and that was coming out at £2,400 for the insurance for example in comparison. I think this will get swapped soon for the facelifted GLE450d though more than likely.

I really liked the idea of the current 3dr Defender, and the insurance is pretty decent on those, and that was coming out at under £900. But my missus doesn't like the relatively low rent interior in them though sadly. I personally think that they're a properly cool car myself though.

[Mandat]

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Mine is the 450 model, with the 3 litre petrol engine. I've tried LV and they have refused to quote, because of the mild hybrid element of the car.

I presume that your 400d doesn't have the MHEV element.

[cerb4.5lee]

Mandat said:

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Mine is the 450 model, with the 3 litre petrol engine. I've tried LV and they have refused to quote, because of the mild hybrid element of the car.

I presume that your 400d doesn't have the MHEV element.

You're welcome.

No and the 400d doesn't have the MHEV element as you say, but the GLE450d that we are thinking about next does though. So that could possibly cause us some headaches with the insurance as well then...

I only thought that it was a tiny electric motor to smooth the stop/start out a bit, and help with making the engine feel a bit less laggy though(obviously you get a bit more bhp/torque as well). So it is weird that it seems to have such an impact on the insurance I reckon. Maybe the system is unreliable or something then?

[cerb4.5lee]

Someone asked about these on the Car Buying forum, so I thought I'd add what I wrote here as well....


They're lovely cars I reckon for sure. Comfortable with the air suspension, roomy/good performance/mpg(around 40mpg), and for me the interior is really nice too.

We've had ours almost 3 years and 78k miles now, but they aren't immune to niggles though. We had a big issue with the windscreen cameras, and that took 3 visits to fix at the dealer. But I'm still not sure if the none OEM windscreen that we had fitted after only 9 weeks of ownership(we picked up a chip annoyingly that quickly turned into a crack) caused that though(or the camera was faulty anyway).

Ours absolutely eats through rear tyres as well, and it is about to have its 7th set of rear tyres fitted, but it is only on its third set of fronts though. Plus the rears tyres are 325/35/22...so not cheap!

However it went in for a service on Monday, and I'd noticed a humming/turbine like noise that it was making, so I asked the dealer to look into for me. They found out that the rear diff was faulty, and it was an imminent fail, and too dangerous to drive. So I'm now without it for about a week(I do at least have an A-Class as a loan car though), while I wait for parts from Germany. Thankfully it is still under the 3 year manufacturer's warranty(just!).

I'm starting to think that the rear diff has always been faulty though, and that would explain why it eats through rear tyres I reckon.

We also had a period of the car thinking that it was overheating(it wasn't), but it kept throwing it into limp mode, and the fans were mega loud like an aeroplane taking off! Merc couldn't get to the bottom of it, but all we've done differently is use the stop/start, whereas before we'd always turn it off in comparison. It hasn't thrown itself into limp mode since(touchwood).

Hope that gives you a feel of them. We both still love the car, but are not sure what to do next now really though at the moment.

[cerb4.5lee]

We've just swapped this after 3 weeks short of owning it 3 years and 81.5k miles. I'm going to miss it to be honest, even though it actually wasn't the easiest thing we've ever had to own.

It has been swapped with a 4 month old/2200miles X5 40d. My first impressions are that I actually prefer the looks/interior/engine in the GLE, but the X5 does drive better overall though. Plus I'm glad that the X5 doesn't have the same annoying skipping over potholes across it's rearend like the GLE had.

The X5 is a lovely spec with air suspension/soft close doors/heated rear seats/massage seats/cooled seats/heated steering wheel/pan roof/HUD/HK etc though.

For me personally the X5 doesn't have the wow factor to sit in or look at in comparison to the GLE, but I think it will be a nice car overall to drive in fairness. Looking forward to getting to know it a bit more(especially all the touchscreens!).