2022 Mercedes GLE400d

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The car is still playing up, but understanding why is baffling though. My missus did a load of miles in it on Friday and it was fine, but she did a load more miles in it on Saturday and it threw the engine light up and put itself into limp mode again.

The RAC came out to it on Saturday and they got rid of the engine light, and it ran fine again all day yesterday. So it goes back into Merc again tomorrow, and hopefully(I won't hold my breath) they will find out what is wrong with it.

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Wish said:

Do you not fancy a X5M ?..

I'd love a X5M, and I really liked the X5 4.8iS that I had years ago as well. I just think the fuel bills could hurt in a X5M with the mileage we do. They are lovely cars though for sure.

We were considering a X5 40d the other day funnily enough too.

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Wills2 said:

Can I interest you in an X5 50e Lee? I've had one for a few days and it's an amazing piece of kit with 490hp it goes well despite the weight, rides wonderfully on the air suspension, it goes back tomorrow as my 7 series is fixed and if I could I would get one but the £90k+ list price of the one I'm borrowing is too steep for me.

Worth a look if they are doing deals on them.

We actually had a test drive of an X5 45e before we went for the GLE. We were put off it a bit though, because the one we were meant to be driving had a fault with the hybrid battery so it couldn't be used. So we took the dealer principals X5 45e out instead.

Neither of us were all that impressed with it to be honest, we both said how heavy it felt, and the performance didn't match up to the on paper stats for us either. However I have read some really good things about the X5 50e though.

I'm pleased to hear that your issues with the 7 Series have been sorted bud.

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cerb4.5lee said:

The car is still playing up, but understanding why is baffling though. My missus did a load of miles in it on Friday and it was fine, but she did a load more miles in it on Saturday and it threw the engine light up and put itself into limp mode again.

The RAC came out to it on Saturday and they got rid of the engine light, and it ran fine again all day yesterday. So it goes back into Merc again tomorrow, and hopefully(I won't hold my breath) they will find out what is wrong with it.

Just an update on this.

Merc had it for 3 days and they took it on a long run each day, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. However it has been behaving itself since to be fair(touchwood).

It is having some more new rear tyres fitted on Friday(that will the fifth set of rears including the ones that were on it from the factory, and it isn't even 2 years old yet!).

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S have only last 3 months/8.5k miles this time, whereas the previous set of MPS4S lasted 6 months/15k miles in comparison. They are £400 each, so obviously I've been moaning about it as usual to my missus!

While I was tyre shopping, I did notice that the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory are back available again. So if the Michelin only last 2 minutes again, I will swap back to the Pirelli, because they lasted 20k miles in comparison.

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I had the fifth set of rear tyres fitted yesterday, and it will be interesting to see how long these last. Hopefully longer than 3 months/8.5k miles though!

If they don't last, I will go back to Pirellis if I can get them.

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DamienCBR said:

Hi lee,
just read the thread. How are you going with the latest tyres?
I am thinking of changed my E220d Night edition Premium plus to a GLE 400D premium plus so your thread has been interesting.
I have a the PS4s on mine and they have been good 27k all round at the moment, obviously the e class estate is a lot lighter.
Keeping an eye on the second hand market at the moment.
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Hi Damien, the tyres have started well thanks, however it hasn't done a lot of miles yet since they were put on. It will be doing a load of miles from Wednesday though, so that will give me a better idea.

I have MPS4 on the 370Z and they have worn well, plus I have MPSS on the M4 and they have worn well too(28k miles from the fronts and currently on 24k miles on the rears as well).

So I can only put the wear down to the weight of the GLE I think, although the front tyres aren't doing too bad(MPS4S), and they've done 16k miles up to yet with a fair bit of wear left in them.

If you don't do loads of miles yourself, I don't think that you'll notice the wear as much as we do I reckon. We both do love the car though, and it is a lovely thing to drive/sit/travel around in for sure. It also has a decent turn of pace for something that weighs 2300kg I think too.

Wishing you all the best with your search if you end up going for one.

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I managed to get caught speeding in it on Tuesday for the very first time in 33 years of driving!

I got caught doing 35 in a 30 with a radar gun at the side of the road, however more worrying was that I didn't even realise that I'd been caught though!

I'm fuming...because I thought that if I ever got caught I'd be in one of the more sporty cars that I have to be honest, because I generally drive this really steady.

When I looked on Google maps, I realised that I had my missus in with me at the time as well, so I presume that I was chatting to her rather than looking at the road!

I'm hoping that I get offered a speed awareness course so I can keep my licence clean though.

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I've given it a rare wash today. I never like doing it all that much, but when I have done it I'm pleased that I have. I gave the inside a good going over as well.

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It had another hissy fit yesterday, and it went into limp mode, and the fans came on, and they sound like an aeroplane taking off when they do. It disconnects the turbos, and you lose loads of power, and the revs sit really high versus normal.

I think the car thinks that it is overheating, although it actually isn't though. So I reckon there must be a dodgy sensor somewhere I think.

My missus is really peed off with the car now(she does a lot of miles in it, so she's lost confidence in it), so I reckon there will be a good chance that it will get swapped for something else. Although I'm/we're not sure what to go for though. Time will tell.

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PinkHouse said:

ST565NP said:

cerb4.5lee said:

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My missus is really peed off with the car now(she does a lot of miles in it, so she's lost confidence in it), so I reckon there will be a good chance that it will get swapped for something else. Although I'm/we're not sure what to go for though. Time will tell.

Mazda CX-60 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRKA82wFx88

Aston DBX!

I wasn't aware of the CX-60 thanks. Plus I wouldn't say no to the DBX either!

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cerb4.5lee said:

I had the fifth set of rear tyres fitted yesterday, and it will be interesting to see how long these last. Hopefully longer than 3 months/8.5k miles though!

If they don't last, I will go back to Pirellis if I can get them.

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

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cerb4.5lee said:

It had another hissy fit yesterday, and it went into limp mode, and the fans came on, and they sound like an aeroplane taking off when they do. It disconnects the turbos, and you lose loads of power, and the revs sit really high versus normal.

I think the car thinks that it is overheating, although it actually isn't though. So I reckon there must be a dodgy sensor somewhere I think.

I don't want to tempt fate but the car has behaved itself(touchwood) since March. The only thing we've done differently is actually use the stop/start(leave it operating). Whereas prior to then we always switched it off though.

It might not be linked of course, but it has been behaving ever since though.

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It is back on the Pirelli P-Zero now, so we will see how they fair wear wise. The original set that were on it from the factory did wear well though in fairness. I also had a 4 wheel alignment done at the same time, because it has been running the outside edge off a bit on the front passenger side.

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Wheelspinning said:

An incredible amount of tyres.

For what it's worth, until 2 years ago we always ran AMGs from around 2001, the last being a GLS63 and a V250 AMG at the same time.

Every single one of them scrubbed the outers on the front at a frightening rate.

Since moving to Range Rover, no crabbing and no outer wear.

I'm not sure how MB manage it.

It is mental how it eats through rear tyres as you say for sure. The fronts don't do too bad wear wise though in comparison.

It is funny that you mention the scrubbing on the outer edge too, because our old GLC350d was bad for that on the front passenger as well.

I did manage to get these P-Zero for a £100 cheaper than everyone else was selling them at on Asda Tyres(£346 each instead of £457). However I think someone had made a mistake with the price though, because they've gone back up to £457 again now.

The wear(especially the rears) and cost of the tyres is definitely something to think about with these when you're running the 22" wheels I reckon.

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Wills2 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

The last rears were fitted here on the 7th of February, and they've only lasted 3 months/8.5k again. So I've booked it in for next week for its sixth set of rear tyres, but I've managed to source the original Pirelli P-Zero that were on it from the factory though(I couldn't previously get hold of them). They lasted 20k miles for reference in comparison, so I'm hoping this new set will better than the MPS4S at lasting only 8.5k miles.

God that is poor my X3M wasn't great on tyres they lasted about 14k continentals I think, heavy AWD cars tend to eat tyres, I get well over 30,000 miles on the 7 series but to be fair I'd get 25k+ on all the RWD M cars as well.

Yes bud and I managed just over 25k miles on both the front and rear in the M4 on the MPSS too. So in general the Michelins are pretty good wear wise I reckon...just not on this thing though!

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peetee7 said:

Hiya mate! I’m thinking of picking up a GLE400d for dad. Thank you for the thread it’s very informative. Just my 2 pence about the tyre situation. It is generally good practice to buy tyres which are SUV rated. They are manufactured to cope with the higher weight of an SUV. I know as car enthusiasts we naturally lean towards Eagle F1’s, Michelin PSX’s and ContiSport 7’s etc , but they’ll wear fast on a heavy car with a high centre of gravity

Just my personal reconmendation, the Pirelli Scorpions are an excellent choice. It’ll make your GLE400d unstoppable in all weather, snow, rain etc In my opinion an all wheel drive SUV must be absolutely unstoppable in all weather therefore a good SUV all season tyre is the way to go. I’m not 100% sure what the wear rate will be like but I’m sure it’ll be decent

Thanks a lot for this, and I'm pleased that the thread has been of some interest to you.

When I was on my recent tyre search I did notice that you can get both winters and all seasons in this tyre size now. Whereas when we first got the car the choice of tyres was much more limited in comparison.

Should we keep the car for the longer term, then the all seasons will definitely be the way forward I think. The all seasons were fantastic wear wise on the previous GLC350d we had for sure(50k miles on the front and 75k miles on the rear!).

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Sheepshanks said:

Wonder how US owners get on - mileage warranties are common there.

Yes and I believe that Michelin offer around a 30k mile warranty on their tyres as you say. 8.5k miles has fell well short on this for sure.

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Mandat said:

Hi Lee

Do you mind me asking who you insure the GLE with?

As per my own recent thread, I am having difficulties with getting quotes for my GLE, as many mainstream insurers are refusing to quote because of the mild hybrid element to the car.

I'm currently insured with Aviva but I'm looking for alternative quotes as Aviva's renewal is very high.

Thanks.

Hi mate, we are insured with LV. It does keep climbing in price each year(like most cars are in fairness), but it isn't totally daft money yet. I think it is currently around £1,100 a year for us. I'm in my 50's though, and my missus is late 40's for reference.

We were considering the current Range Rover Sport(diesel) recently, and that was coming out at £2,400 for the insurance for example in comparison. I think this will get swapped soon for the facelifted GLE450d though more than likely.

I really liked the idea of the current 3dr Defender, and the insurance is pretty decent on those, and that was coming out at under £900. But my missus doesn't like the relatively low rent interior in them though sadly. I personally think that they're a properly cool car myself though.

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Mandat said:

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Mine is the 450 model, with the 3 litre petrol engine. I've tried LV and they have refused to quote, because of the mild hybrid element of the car.

I presume that your 400d doesn't have the MHEV element.

You're welcome.

No and the 400d doesn't have the MHEV element as you say, but the GLE450d that we are thinking about next does though. So that could possibly cause us some headaches with the insurance as well then...

I only thought that it was a tiny electric motor to smooth the stop/start out a bit, and help with making the engine feel a bit less laggy though(obviously you get a bit more bhp/torque as well). So it is weird that it seems to have such an impact on the insurance I reckon. Maybe the system is unreliable or something then?

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Someone asked about these on the Car Buying forum, so I thought I'd add what I wrote here as well....


They're lovely cars I reckon for sure. Comfortable with the air suspension, roomy/good performance/mpg(around 40mpg), and for me the interior is really nice too.

We've had ours almost 3 years and 78k miles now, but they aren't immune to niggles though. We had a big issue with the windscreen cameras, and that took 3 visits to fix at the dealer. But I'm still not sure if the none OEM windscreen that we had fitted after only 9 weeks of ownership(we picked up a chip annoyingly that quickly turned into a crack) caused that though(or the camera was faulty anyway).

Ours absolutely eats through rear tyres as well, and it is about to have its 7th set of rear tyres fitted, but it is only on its third set of fronts though. Plus the rears tyres are 325/35/22...so not cheap!

However it went in for a service on Monday, and I'd noticed a humming/turbine like noise that it was making, so I asked the dealer to look into for me. They found out that the rear diff was faulty, and it was an imminent fail, and too dangerous to drive. So I'm now without it for about a week(I do at least have an A-Class as a loan car though), while I wait for parts from Germany. Thankfully it is still under the 3 year manufacturer's warranty(just!).

I'm starting to think that the rear diff has always been faulty though, and that would explain why it eats through rear tyres I reckon.

We also had a period of the car thinking that it was overheating(it wasn't), but it kept throwing it into limp mode, and the fans were mega loud like an aeroplane taking off! Merc couldn't get to the bottom of it, but all we've done differently is use the stop/start, whereas before we'd always turn it off in comparison. It hasn't thrown itself into limp mode since(touchwood).

Hope that gives you a feel of them. We both still love the car, but are not sure what to do next now really though at the moment.