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bencollins4 said:
Blimey, thought you still had the Porsche! Turns out that was about 3 cars back - I can’t keep up!
Good luck - hope it lasts until April!
I reckon that I keep newspapers longer than James keeps his cars! Good luck - hope it lasts until April!
EVs aren't really my thing, but I wish you all the best with it James. I always enjoy following your readers cars threads.
It must be great to experience so many different cars as well.
cerb4.5lee said:
I reckon that I keep newspapers longer than James keeps his cars!
EVs aren't really my thing, but I wish you all the best with it James. I always enjoy following your readers cars threads.
It must be great to experience so many different cars as well.
I do seem to surprise my mates sometimes EVs aren't really my thing, but I wish you all the best with it James. I always enjoy following your readers cars threads.
It must be great to experience so many different cars as well.
Or not.. When there's something new on the drive. Thanks Lee
Will have to hope it bahaves it's self!
They weren't mine to be honest, but it really is a great handling car, with some great torque. For a daily driver it's great.
It is nice to have tried to many as well, each different in their own way.
I am on the look out for something petrol powered for the summer as well, maybe a Mk3 MR2, or Mk1 TT, Ive always liked them.
jamesbilluk said:
Blimy, scary how the battery can effect it like that. I remember I had a discovery 4, as the battery was failing, all sorts of odd things happened to the electrics.
Low voltage and digital electronics are horrible bedfellows - what ends up happening is modules in different circuits can't run with the low voltages, so they intermittently switch themselves off/don't register on the CAN network properly/send spurious error codes as they flake off. They still keep a 12V battery for two reasons - first the whole architecture for the control systems in the cars is built around it from ICE cars, so it's not worth completely re-engineering every switch and module etc, and secondly it means that if there's a fault in the traction battery the electronics can keep running and managing everything (most importantly telling the user, obviously).
That said, they could certainly be better at maintaining the 12V batteries from the traction battery, it seems mad they could go flat.
Krikkit said:
Low voltage and digital electronics are horrible bedfellows - what ends up happening is modules in different circuits can't run with the low voltages, so they intermittently switch themselves off/don't register on the CAN network properly/send spurious error codes as they flake off.
They still keep a 12V battery for two reasons - first the whole architecture for the control systems in the cars is built around it from ICE cars, so it's not worth completely re-engineering every switch and module etc, and secondly it means that if there's a fault in the traction battery the electronics can keep running and managing everything (most importantly telling the user, obviously).
That said, they could certainly be better at maintaining the 12V batteries from the traction battery, it seems mad they could go flat.
Ah, thank you, so it can cause a lot of problems then. I've seen some on the Facebook group that have even locked up due to 12 battery failure. Luckily this one doesn't seem to have done the message since.They still keep a 12V battery for two reasons - first the whole architecture for the control systems in the cars is built around it from ICE cars, so it's not worth completely re-engineering every switch and module etc, and secondly it means that if there's a fault in the traction battery the electronics can keep running and managing everything (most importantly telling the user, obviously).
That said, they could certainly be better at maintaining the 12V batteries from the traction battery, it seems mad they could go flat.
That's true, I didn't think of that regarding the rest of the architectureof the car, slut of the controls I recognise from my X351, although they have a bit of chrome on his one..
This won't seem to let you have the radio on for long when parked up, the system seems to have a time out.
Looking on the forums, it seems to be the easy ones like this that have problems with the 2 batteries, and the later ones seems to run with 1 battery.
jamesbilluk said:
Ah, thank you, so it can cause a lot of problems then. I've seen some on the Facebook group that have even locked up due to 12 battery failure. Luckily this one doesn't seem to have done the message since.
That's true, I didn't think of that regarding the rest of the architectureof the car, slut of the controls I recognise from my X351, although they have a bit of chrome on his one..
This won't seem to let you have the radio on for long when parked up, the system seems to have a time out.
Looking on the forums, it seems to be the easy ones like this that have problems with the 2 batteries, and the later ones seems to run with 1 battery.
I believe most of the 12v issues should now have been resolved via a software update so hopefully yours was just a one off as a result of it being sat at the dealers for a while.That's true, I didn't think of that regarding the rest of the architectureof the car, slut of the controls I recognise from my X351, although they have a bit of chrome on his one..
This won't seem to let you have the radio on for long when parked up, the system seems to have a time out.
Looking on the forums, it seems to be the easy ones like this that have problems with the 2 batteries, and the later ones seems to run with 1 battery.
Richtea1970 said:
I believe most of the 12v issues should now have been resolved via a software update so hopefully yours was just a one off as a result of it being sat at the dealers for a while.
Does sound that way hopefully!I've been chatting with a guy who has recently bought one, he was getting battery drain, and some other symptoms, he was concerned it was the 1w batteries, he got Jaguar assist out, the software update sorted that all out which was good.
tvrfan007 said:
How you getting on with this?
Still thrilled with it. Certainly one of the best cars I've owned. Very practical, very very fast, and genuinely fun to drive. I've not had any worry about the range so far either, With the milage I've been doing, and I find it's pretty accurate as well. I seem to be charging it up from half every Sunday. My Pod point chrger has all been installed as well, as part of the Aproved used offer. I did do a trip to Hillington recently, to get the metropolitan line to London. I found a service on 'Just park' where you could pay to use someone's drive, and charger. So it was ready to go for when we left later that day.
I've got an OVO tariff that gives me 10p/kw to charge the car any time of the day, as long as they find the cheap rate. I think they then take the EV charging off your bill when it arrives.
So far, this month, the charging has come to £21 which isn't bad at all. As I charge mainly from home.
I did treat it to a good clean the other day!
mikebradford said:
I think these look great, and prices secondhand look great value
Certainly a lot of car for the money. This is only an 'S' but has the Air suspension, which has been fantastic handling/comfort wise.I am pleased this one has the Jaguar warranty though! It seems rather complex.
Just an update with the iPace, I've been enjoying the GTV, but the Jag has been a brilliant daily driver. With the tariff we're on, last months total charging cost was £36, which was impressive for the performance the car (although OVO have put up the price if my direct debit, even though I have the EV add on) I may try Octopus next.
I'm still very impressed with the way it drives, the way it handles is impressive for something of its weight.
I did a trip to my brother's which is 87 miles each way, I was able to do both ways without a charge at normal motorway speeds, it seems the range at the moment is about 230 which I'm very happy with. I use the AC all the time, and never pre condition it. Although with the warmer weather, it's been nice to have it cool when we get back into it.
I have found the infotainment system a bit odd, sometimes, when 'starting' the car, the infotainment screen, and the screen below with the heater controls fail to come on for about 5 minutes. Looking on the forums, this can happen if the car hasn't been locked.
I did treat it to a good clean and polish the other day as well,
I do love the blue
I'm still very impressed with the way it drives, the way it handles is impressive for something of its weight.
I did a trip to my brother's which is 87 miles each way, I was able to do both ways without a charge at normal motorway speeds, it seems the range at the moment is about 230 which I'm very happy with. I use the AC all the time, and never pre condition it. Although with the warmer weather, it's been nice to have it cool when we get back into it.
I have found the infotainment system a bit odd, sometimes, when 'starting' the car, the infotainment screen, and the screen below with the heater controls fail to come on for about 5 minutes. Looking on the forums, this can happen if the car hasn't been locked.
I did treat it to a good clean and polish the other day as well,
I do love the blue
Macron said:
It does look lovely, such a striking design for a car with a jag badge.
Can you remind me why you offloaded the XJ? That was a looker too in the R-Sport trim.
Sorry for the late reply! Can you remind me why you offloaded the XJ? That was a looker too in the R-Sport trim.
I really love the design too, still looks good today I think. And I do love a bonnet vent!
With regards to the XJ, it was a lovely thing to drive and be in, but because of the shorter distances that I cover, I ended up getting oil dilution issues with it, because of failed DPF regens. Ithwas a lovely engine though. Lots of torque, and economical as well.
Still thrilled with the iPace, the pre conditioning has been lovely in this weather, having the car perfectly cold when you need it. It's making its way to be one of the best cars I've owned in its abilities...
Although on the Facebook owners page, someone posted a link to the JLR Topix recall checker. Mine came up saying it's affected.
Apparently high voltage battery can overheat, and possibly cause a fire.. Nice to know. During the recall, the battery energy control module needs to be updated, they advise not to park near any buildings or charge over 75%
I'll get the car booked in tomorrow I think!
Although on the Facebook owners page, someone posted a link to the JLR Topix recall checker. Mine came up saying it's affected.
Apparently high voltage battery can overheat, and possibly cause a fire.. Nice to know. During the recall, the battery energy control module needs to be updated, they advise not to park near any buildings or charge over 75%
I'll get the car booked in tomorrow I think!
The battery overheating recall went very smoothly at my local dealership, and touch wood, it’s not been on fire yet..
First large issue with the car this morning.. and there was a number of warning messages, including ASPC not available, gearbox fault, no stability control and brake pedal feel reduced.
I got a minute down the road, and the brakes and brake feel disappeared completely! And the pedal became hard, I had to use regen to slow it down, and turn round very carefully in a turning bay, Then took it back home.
I phoned ‘Jaguar assist’ as it’s under warranty, they’re getting someone out for 12.00. After looking at the forums, I have a feeling it may be the smaller 12V battery that has failed, as the random warning messages were getting more frequent.
Shame, as we just completed a camping holiday in it, where it drive fantastically, it really is a great car to drive, and comfy way to travel.
First large issue with the car this morning.. and there was a number of warning messages, including ASPC not available, gearbox fault, no stability control and brake pedal feel reduced.
I got a minute down the road, and the brakes and brake feel disappeared completely! And the pedal became hard, I had to use regen to slow it down, and turn round very carefully in a turning bay, Then took it back home.
I phoned ‘Jaguar assist’ as it’s under warranty, they’re getting someone out for 12.00. After looking at the forums, I have a feeling it may be the smaller 12V battery that has failed, as the random warning messages were getting more frequent.
Shame, as we just completed a camping holiday in it, where it drive fantastically, it really is a great car to drive, and comfy way to travel.
Edited by jamesbilluk on Monday 21st August 09:40
Thanks both, the technician did say the smaller of the auxiliary batteries was only reading 4V. He’s had to order some parts though, which could be 2 weeks.
He did say he would bypass it, what ever he’s done, it seems to be working for now. There is now a traction battery fault as well, he thinks it’s related to the H441 recall, so that will need to be booked in..
He did say he would bypass it, what ever he’s done, it seems to be working for now. There is now a traction battery fault as well, he thinks it’s related to the H441 recall, so that will need to be booked in..
The technician has just been back with the replacement parts he needed.l, phoned first thing to say he would be over today. Turns out it wasn’t the 12v battery at all, it was the power distribution module that had failed. He’s checked the voltage of both small batteries, and that’s completely fine.
I’ve been very impressed with Jaguar assist, and no need to visit the dealership either.
Nice to know that if anything else does go wrong, I have this service for the duration of its lease.
I’ve been very impressed with Jaguar assist, and no need to visit the dealership either.
Nice to know that if anything else does go wrong, I have this service for the duration of its lease.
Edited by jamesbilluk on Thursday 24th August 13:28
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