Racism Hypocrisy
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If the 'n' word is unacceptable, it should be unacceptable irrespective of who uses it. Fair?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Glassman said:
If the 'n' word is unacceptable, it should be unacceptable irrespective of who uses it. Fair?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Haven’t you been told before about sniffing the windscreen glue?Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Some of this stuff irks me to. You can call a scotsman a scot, but it's unacceptable to call a Pakistani a 
? The army have that on their uniforms as does the ambassodor on his limo. Racisism comes down to intent imo. As for th 'N' word being offensive, it certainly can be but you can't ban it form the language or from proper debates. The fact I typed it meant that everybody thought it. How ridiculous is that. The thought police will be out to get us next.
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When I'm with friends all sorts of words come out but we would never want to offend another person. I'd be unconcerned if I was called off hand names based on my skin colour or race unless it was done in a hateful way.
? The army have that on their uniforms as does the ambassodor on his limo. Racisism comes down to intent imo. As for th 'N' word being offensive, it certainly can be but you can't ban it form the language or from proper debates. The fact I typed it meant that everybody thought it. How ridiculous is that. The thought police will be out to get us next.I
When I'm with friends all sorts of words come out but we would never want to offend another person. I'd be unconcerned if I was called off hand names based on my skin colour or race unless it was done in a hateful way.
Boosted LS1 said:
... as does the ambassodor on his limo...
1. He doesn't. The embassy has 1 PAK.2. PAK 1 is not a valid plate (check DVLA website). I know - DVLA political correctness gone mad.
3. Even if it were an embassy plate, it would be in the same way as FRA 1 or BRZ 1 or AUS 1, the 1 is a 1, not an I.
Ridiculous thread.
It isn't the actual word, it is who is using it and its historical context.
I know Pakistani people who use the P word and call other Pakistani people it, but I never see that as carte blanche to drop it into conversations with them, it is "only an abbreviation" like "Brit", but its one with a lot of baggage, and that is the problem.
There is a school of thought where it is seen to be that only white people can be racist, and when someone of colour says something racist it is regarded as amusing, colourful or characterful, well no its just racist and allowing someone some slack due to their ethnicity is racist. Thats how it starts, gains momentum and takes over.
For racism to be stamped out rules against it need to be applied consistently and robustly, nobody gets a pass out. At the same time, nobody should be immune from constructive criticism, just needs to be based on the right motivation.
I know Pakistani people who use the P word and call other Pakistani people it, but I never see that as carte blanche to drop it into conversations with them, it is "only an abbreviation" like "Brit", but its one with a lot of baggage, and that is the problem.
There is a school of thought where it is seen to be that only white people can be racist, and when someone of colour says something racist it is regarded as amusing, colourful or characterful, well no its just racist and allowing someone some slack due to their ethnicity is racist. Thats how it starts, gains momentum and takes over.
For racism to be stamped out rules against it need to be applied consistently and robustly, nobody gets a pass out. At the same time, nobody should be immune from constructive criticism, just needs to be based on the right motivation.
This isn't really that hard to understand.
The Pakistani abbreviation is racist in the UK, as it started to be used to group anyone of South Asian origin - and often used as a slur.
In places like America and Australia, people didn't generally use it to describe non-Pakistani Asians, or as a slur, so it's rarely used outside of a genuine abbreviation.
The Pakistani abbreviation is racist in the UK, as it started to be used to group anyone of South Asian origin - and often used as a slur.
In places like America and Australia, people didn't generally use it to describe non-Pakistani Asians, or as a slur, so it's rarely used outside of a genuine abbreviation.
Glassman said:
If the 'n' word is unacceptable, it should be unacceptable irrespective of who uses it. Fair?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Boosted LS1 said:
Some of this stuff irks me to. You can call a scotsman a scot, but it's unacceptable to call a Pakistani a ? The army have that on their uniforms as does the ambassodor on his limo. Racisism comes down to intent imo. As for th 'N' word being offensive, it certainly can be but you can't ban it form the language or from proper debates. The fact I typed it meant that everybody thought it. How ridiculous is that. The thought police will be out to get us next.
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When I'm with friends all sorts of words come out but we would never want to offend another person. I'd be unconcerned if I was called off hand names based on my skin colour or race unless it was done in a hateful way.
Did you ever hear of 'Scot-bashing'? ? The army have that on their uniforms as does the ambassodor on his limo. Racisism comes down to intent imo. As for th 'N' word being offensive, it certainly can be but you can't ban it form the language or from proper debates. The fact I typed it meant that everybody thought it. How ridiculous is that. The thought police will be out to get us next.I
When I'm with friends all sorts of words come out but we would never want to offend another person. I'd be unconcerned if I was called off hand names based on my skin colour or race unless it was done in a hateful way.
No, I didn't think so.
Boosted LS1 said:
Some of this stuff irks me to. You can call a scotsman a scot, but it's unacceptable to call a Pakistani a ?
Seriously.....I mean really?? Scott is an official term for a Scotman. I know two Scotts actually called Scott. I don't know any Pakistanis whose name is actually P***.
P*** is a made up word, a pejorative, used to insult and terrorise. In the 70s, I don't recall gangs of Scott bashers roaming the streets looking for Scottish people to beat to a pulp.
I don't know how old you are, but if you're over the age of 10, it's disappointing this needs to be explained.
Edit: Post above beat me to it
Lenny Bruce had the right idea. He said everyone should use the N word, all the time. Make it a part of normal everyday vocabulary and it loses it's power to hurt anybody. It's just a word.
Having just watched this week's 24 Hours in Police Custody, I think we'd be better off cracking down on knife crime and the kind of mentality that thinks it's OK to stab someone if you want their watch, than policing white people's Tweets.
Having just watched this week's 24 Hours in Police Custody, I think we'd be better off cracking down on knife crime and the kind of mentality that thinks it's OK to stab someone if you want their watch, than policing white people's Tweets.
Glassman said:
If the 'n' word is unacceptable, it should be unacceptable irrespective of who uses it. Fair?
Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
Are you ten years old? Grow up and just stop being a racist.Example: rap artists; black stand-up comedians. The word is accepted. Somehow I don't think context changes anything; if you are not black, be careful where and how you use the word.
Also, if a person from Pakistan calls someone from Pakistan a shortened version of Pakistani, is that racist in the same way that someone not from Pakistan saying it?
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