I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[WojaWabbit]

rufusgti said:

Not my car so not strictly an advert but a friend is going to sell his....

I won't put prices up ect as i know you're not really aloud to advertise. As I say it's not my car but thought it fit the bill.

Not your car, you're simply informing us of a car for sale in the same way we post links to various adverts So go on... How much Mister?!

Re: MOT History - I've had testers list advisories and then verbally say "might need done but the next test, keep an eye on it". So it should last a year and circa 15k miles... Is it really worth listing?! And I've had others fail for things I've checked prior to the test and deemed to be fine, then taken to another test station without rectification only to have them pass. The MOT history can be a good guide but at the prices we're talking about here you should only care about the most recent one, maybe two years.

[Bullet-Proof_Biscuit]

Kingdom35 said:

Ive been lurking here for a year or so now watching this thread with great interest.

Fast approaching 40 and a good excuse for a present to myself.

I can see prices seem to have gone up a few K for a Boxster.

If you had around £8-10k to spend, what would be the best, most reliable Porsche to go for and which engine/year.

Im no car expert at all, but 2.7 Boxster 2003/2004 with a few k ready for anything to go bang? Is that the safest bet if there is one

Something like this perhaps? Not mine, I'm just shopping for black crocs

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/31564037...

[rufusgti]

WojaWabbit said:

rufusgti said:

Not my car so not strictly an advert but a friend is going to sell his....

I won't put prices up ect as i know you're not really aloud to advertise. As I say it's not my car but thought it fit the bill.

Not your car, you're simply informing us of a car for sale in the same way we post links to various adverts So go on... How much Mister?!

Well it was 5k, but it sold tonight.
Interesting comments about the Mot history. I cant comment having not seen the underside but it was one of the nicest boxsters of that age i've seen in a long time. Who knows whats lurking beneath, but pretty sure it was very well cared for.

[ATM]

rufusgti said:

WojaWabbit said:

rufusgti said:

Not my car so not strictly an advert but a friend is going to sell his....

I won't put prices up ect as i know you're not really aloud to advertise. As I say it's not my car but thought it fit the bill.

Not your car, you're simply informing us of a car for sale in the same way we post links to various adverts So go on... How much Mister?!

Well it was 5k, but it sold tonight.
Interesting comments about the Mot history. I cant comment having not seen the underside but it was one of the nicest boxsters of that age i've seen in a long time. Who knows whats lurking beneath, but pretty sure it was very well cared for.

Yeah there are plenty of 996 owners seeing problems with corroded parts under their cars to lead me to believe that they all do that sir. Yet again people buying a Porsche even a 986 at the lower end of the market seem to look for any reason to rule out a car. I think the car looked good and I'm glad it sold to someone who will hopefully enjoy it whatever the MOT history says. What colour is the car - looks dark blue is that called midnight blue?

[Escy]

I was unpleasantly surprised by the condition of my recently acquired 987 compared to my previous 986's, it's got a lot more rust underneath (that you can't really do anything about, coming through on the spot welds and seams between panels). It looks to me like they cut costs during the production. After having talked to a Porsche specialist he confirmed the 9x7's are worse than the 9x6 in terms of corrosion. The brake pipes are ripe on it also. My 987 isn't awful when compared to other cars of the same age and mileage but compared to a 986, it's poor as I know Porsche can do better. That said, the 986 is pretty remarkable in terms of rust, some fittings rust but the shell itself doesn't seem to corrode, an MX5 of a similar age is likely to have had a new pair of sills welded in.

Edited by Escy on Saturday 4th July 10:20

[tr7v8]

Escy said:

I was unpleasantly surprised by the condition of my recently acquired 987 compared to my previous 986's, it's got a lot more rust underneath (that you can't really do anything about, coming through on the spot welds and seams between panels). It looks to me like they cut costs during the production. After having talked to a Porsche specialist he confirmed the 9x7's are worse than the 9x6 in terms of corrosion. The brake pipes are ripe on it also. My 987 isn't awful when compared to other cars of the same age and mileage but compared to a 986, it's poor as I know Porsche can do better. That said, the 986 is pretty remarkable in terms of rust, some fittings rust but the shell itself doesn't seem to corrode, an MX5 of a similar age is likely to have had a new pair of sills welded in.

Edited by Escy on Saturday 4th July 10:20

Just had the Cayenne serviced a 955 2005 & the underside made me sad. For a near 60K car hen it was new all the spot welds & joints are red with rust underneath as well as things like suspension parts & brake line ends.
Compared with the W plated 2000 Jeep GC that he had up before mine which despite being offroaded looked loads better.
When I had a Boxster it was a similar story. The exhaust fittings were virtually none existent.

[LennyM1984]

Escy said:

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Edited by Escy on Saturday 4th July 10:20

What area is this photo showing? I know the engine is out and I can see the heatshields at the back but it's this the bulkhead below the engine cover?

[Escy]

Yes, this above where the flywheel would be. That's an area which isn't that exposed, it's not the first place you'd expect to see rust. It's like they've skipped a step during the production.

[jakesmith]

tr7v8 said:

Escy said:

I was unpleasantly surprised by the condition of my recently acquired 987 compared to my previous 986's, it's got a lot more rust underneath (that you can't really do anything about, coming through on the spot welds and seams between panels). It looks to me like they cut costs during the production. After having talked to a Porsche specialist he confirmed the 9x7's are worse than the 9x6 in terms of corrosion. The brake pipes are ripe on it also. My 987 isn't awful when compared to other cars of the same age and mileage but compared to a 986, it's poor as I know Porsche can do better. That said, the 986 is pretty remarkable in terms of rust, some fittings rust but the shell itself doesn't seem to corrode, an MX5 of a similar age is likely to have had a new pair of sills welded in.

Edited by Escy on Saturday 4th July 10:20

Just had the Cayenne serviced a 955 2005 & the underside made me sad. For a near 60K car hen it was new all the spot welds & joints are red with rust underneath as well as things like suspension parts & brake line ends.
Compared with the W plated 2000 Jeep GC that he had up before mine which despite being offroaded looked loads better.
When I had a Boxster it was a similar story. The exhaust fittings were virtually none existent.

I had a 2004 987S, beautiful car in GT silver with full leather. Had to take the front lights out & there it was - lots of rust on the inside & edges of the front wings. Took it to 2 places that asked if I lived near the sea and that the only way to fix it would be 2 new wings. They aren't expensive per se but it adds up to get them prepped & painted & blended in. Was looking at £2.5k. Sold the car on in the end as it was an £11k car that I'd bought on a whim to smoke about in for a bit & had already spent £2.5k on tires, steering rack & a few other bits. Only owned it for 9 months in the end. These cars can be extremely expensie to keep in good nick once they have a few year on them IME. THe 987 is definitely susceptible to rust that's for sure

[John Laverick]

anonymous said:

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Agreed, to me that reads like an over zealous MOT tester noting every single area of corrosion on the underside of a 15year old car.

I'd wager if you we're as thorough on 95% of 986s you'd find similar results but most MOT testers only note things that potentially make the car unroadworthy. Not every defect!!

I'd still go and have a look at it if I were in the market bit have a proper look at the underside.

[Andyoz]

Might be a total hack but misfire could be coils? Cheap anyway and hussle them down to £2,500

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...

[youngsyr]

Andyoz said:

Might be a total hack but misfire could be coils? Cheap anyway and hussle them down to £2,500

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...

Struggle to see how that's not worth £2.5k in parts?

[edc]

youngsyr said:

Andyoz said:

Might be a total hack but misfire could be coils? Cheap anyway and hussle them down to £2,500

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...

Struggle to see how that's not worth £2.5k in parts?

You've still got to take it apart to get the parts. Let's face it most people can't do that not have the space or storage for it. If you are doing it as a breaker commercial operation and place like Douglas Valley do then you have to pay for the labour to get the parts.

[ATM]

edc said:

youngsyr said:

Andyoz said:

Might be a total hack but misfire could be coils? Cheap anyway and hussle them down to £2,500

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2020...

Struggle to see how that's not worth £2.5k in parts?

You've still got to take it apart to get the parts. Let's face it most people can't do that not have the space or storage for it. If you are doing it as a breaker commercial operation and place like Douglas Valley do then you have to pay for the labour to get the parts.

And you lose 20% to the vat man too.

[Andyoz]

At that sort of price, it would be tempting to buy it, hopefully sort misfire easily .. and thrash around a track and see how many sessions you get. Buy two of them and use one as a donor car...

I still find it crazy that air cooled stuff fetches 20+ times much as these...

[ATM]

Had a little run out with some boxster owners on Sunday. Was quite good fun. I didnt see any real poverty pork there. In fact I had the oldest car there. I think I spotted only one 986. Maybe the 987 is more common now amongst enthusiasts. Maybe the 987 is the new poverty pork bench mark. Maybe a cheaper 986 is just too risky a purchase for buyers with some Porsche know how. Here are a couple of pics. All boxsters except the Tesla and then me bringing up the rear in my 911.

[Andyoz]

^^^ Tesla....spot the odd one out

[ooid]

If you do not mind Auto (Tip), and can trust the owner's mechanical skills, this could be a nice weekend car without any hassle. I'm sure it could be around 5k? The owner claims he has rebuilt the engine himself.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

[Dimebars]

ooid said:

If you do not mind Auto (Tip), and can trust the owner's mechanical skills, this could be a nice weekend car without any hassle. I'm sure it could be around 5k? The owner claims he has rebuilt the engine himself.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...

Six bags seems a bit rich for a DIY-rebuilt car

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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Well done Moo

With a name like Moo you are either mad on cow or dead against it. At least you understand your madness and are embracing it. Well done for getting off the indecision toilet. Clearly you are going to drop yours kids off soon enough.