I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[soxboy]

anonymous said:

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When I was looking to sell my 987 2.7 with 130k I got little interest at £5k, I got the impression (and seemed to be backed up by the forums, including on here) that people would rather pay a significant premium for a lower mileage than on one that has been 'used as intended'.

I guess the seller just wants rid instead of waiting around in a limited market. Maybe he's after a new car and has been offered the WBAC as trade-in, which will be comical on these, so added a little more to see what bites.

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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What now, you are Porsche-less again or is that the Cayman?

[Kettmark]

WBAC valuation £3275 on that Boxster

[ATM]

Kettmark said:

WBAC valuation £3275 on that Boxster

No way he would get that though. There are bound to be some little marks which mean they can knock off another few hundred quid.

[jakesmith]

ATM said:

No way he would get that though. There are bound to be some little marks which mean they can knock off another few hundred quid.

I’ve read on here a few times that they do honour the price and are delighted to do so when the condition is as per the sellers declaration for the quote.

They express despair at the lack of accuracy in this area though and turn up to assess wrecks described as mint and the owners get upset when this is pointed out and a lower offer made.

No personal experience but have read / heard this a few times

[Fast Bug]

jakesmith said:

ATM said:

No way he would get that though. There are bound to be some little marks which mean they can knock off another few hundred quid.

I’ve read on here a few times that they do honour the price and are delighted to do so when the condition is as per the sellers declaration for the quote.

They express despair at the lack of accuracy in this area though and turn up to assess wrecks described as mint and the owners get upset when this is pointed out and a lower offer made.

No personal experience but have read / heard this a few times

I think my idea of mint and most other peoples are poles apart. The amount of "mint" cars I've walked away from, or had to renegotiate the price on is silly

[CDP]

anonymous said:

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I was wondering though, is bore wear or IMS failure any more of an issue at very high mileage? Obviously stuff like dampers and bushes will need replacing but if one is to gain the most from this sort of car they probably need replacing by 60-80K anyway.

Surely service history counts for more?

[P5BNij]

anonymous said:

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What happens to all these 'high mileage' Boxsters, Caymans and 911s, do they just sit around until someone tries to chip the vendors right down or do some end up as parts donors...?

Not for the first time I find myself looking at 996s on Autotrader etc as a potential second car / plaything which will be garaged (between regular bouts of looking at '60s, '70s and '80s Italian stuff), and I've noticed a few examples at the lower end of asking prices seem to stay put for ages then disappear off the radar, only to reappear a few months later.

[ATM]

P5BNij said:

anonymous said:

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What happens to all these 'high mileage' Boxsters, Caymans and 911s, do they just sit around until someone tries to chip the vendors right down or do some end up as parts donors...?

Not for the first time I find myself looking at 996s on Autotrader etc as a potential second car / plaything which will be garaged (between regular bouts of looking at '60s, '70s and '80s Italian stuff), and I've noticed a few examples at the lower end of asking prices seem to stay put for ages then disappear off the radar, only to reappear a few months later.

Difficult question to answer. I guess it depends on the seller. I advertised my 996 last year at 14 grand and got very little interest so just decided to keep it. At this price point you have to assume sellers are not really needing the cash. If they are then they will surely sell eventually. Some may get part exchanged. So if someone is trading up they may just trade it in. They may only decide to trade up after months of trying to sell privately.

[2Btoo]

anonymous said:

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That's not good news. How much will the next mile cost me in depreciation then?



(Taken in my 987 Cayman 2.7 this morning.)

Edited by 2Btoo on Sunday 27th October 19:27

[P5BNij]

ATM said:

P5BNij said:

anonymous said:

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What happens to all these 'high mileage' Boxsters, Caymans and 911s, do they just sit around until someone tries to chip the vendors right down or do some end up as parts donors...?

Not for the first time I find myself looking at 996s on Autotrader etc as a potential second car / plaything which will be garaged (between regular bouts of looking at '60s, '70s and '80s Italian stuff), and I've noticed a few examples at the lower end of asking prices seem to stay put for ages then disappear off the radar, only to reappear a few months later.

Difficult question to answer. I guess it depends on the seller. I advertised my 996 last year at 14 grand and got very little interest so just decided to keep it. At this price point you have to assume sellers are not really needing the cash. If they are then they will surely sell eventually. Some may get part exchanged. So if someone is trading up they may just trade it in. They may only decide to trade up after months of trying to sell privately.

Thanks ATM

[SpyderT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-XLfDa4MwU

Looking forward to the next instalment of this project Cayman 996.

[edc]

2Btoo said:

That's not good news. How much will the next mile cost me in depreciation then?



(Taken in my 987 Cayman 2.7 this morning.)

Edited by 2Btoo on Sunday 27th October 19:27

I wouldn't worry about it. My first Boxster I bought with 58k on it and my second came to me with 105k already on the clock and now 120k. You can worry about these things all day long but most things will sell at the right price if you ever want to change.

[snotrag]

Sold my 137k mile 986 this summer in less than 24 hours.

They sell, as long as they are the right price!

[2Btoo]

edc said:

2Btoo said:

That's not good news. How much will the next mile cost me in depreciation then?



(Taken in my 987 Cayman 2.7 this morning.)

Edited by 2Btoo on Sunday 27th October 19:27

I wouldn't worry about it. My first Boxster I bought with 58k on it and my second came to me with 105k already on the clock and now 120k. You can worry about these things all day long but most things will sell at the right price if you ever want to change.

Thanks. I'm not worrying! I bought the car as a long-term thing and am looking forward to seeing 150,000 or 180,000 on there. I just hope that it doesn't start to disintegrate as the miles go up ....

[edc]

It won't but stuff will wear out. You will have to make the choice between fixing when it breaks or replacing before it does. There's no right or wrong way. Stuff like suspension rarely breaks per se but the deterioration of the components really compromises the performance. It won't suddenly feel like a boat but step into an equivalent car with new shake soon over one you've known a long time with very high miles and you will notice the difference.

[2Btoo]

edc said:

It won't but stuff will wear out. You will have to make the choice between fixing when it breaks or replacing before it does. There's no right or wrong way. Stuff like suspension rarely breaks per se but the deterioration of the components really compromises the performance. It won't suddenly feel like a boat but step into an equivalent car with new shake soon over one you've known a long time with very high miles and you will notice the difference.

Ever the way, but you've put that nice and succinctly - thanks. I happen to prefer preventative replacement when worn but others will differ.

My old 944 was at 230,000 and drove excellently when I put it into storage. Largely due to a recent cylinder head overhaul and full suspension refresh. Both made a world of difference. I think the suspension on the Cayman will be up for a replacement soon - possibly next summer. It doesn't seem to be too hard a job.

[kingston12]

2Btoo said:

edc said:

It won't but stuff will wear out. You will have to make the choice between fixing when it breaks or replacing before it does. There's no right or wrong way. Stuff like suspension rarely breaks per se but the deterioration of the components really compromises the performance. It won't suddenly feel like a boat but step into an equivalent car with new shake soon over one you've known a long time with very high miles and you will notice the difference.

Ever the way, but you've put that nice and succinctly - thanks. I happen to prefer preventative replacement when worn but others will differ.

My old 944 was at 230,000 and drove excellently when I put it into storage. Largely due to a recent cylinder head overhaul and full suspension refresh. Both made a world of difference. I think the suspension on the Cayman will be up for a replacement soon - possibly next summer. It doesn't seem to be too hard a job.

How much would you budget for a full suspension refresh on a 987? I had new front springs on mine last year, but the rest of it is original on a 14 year old car. It's low mileage and still feels fine to me, but I often wonder if it has deteriorated a bit without me noticing it.

The indy that drove it last year didn't pick up on anything though.

[edc]

Depending on how far you go you are looking at up to say £800 in labour alone for a full suspension fit.

[ATM]

kingston12 said:

2Btoo said:

edc said:

It won't but stuff will wear out. You will have to make the choice between fixing when it breaks or replacing before it does. There's no right or wrong way. Stuff like suspension rarely breaks per se but the deterioration of the components really compromises the performance. It won't suddenly feel like a boat but step into an equivalent car with new shake soon over one you've known a long time with very high miles and you will notice the difference.

Ever the way, but you've put that nice and succinctly - thanks. I happen to prefer preventative replacement when worn but others will differ.

My old 944 was at 230,000 and drove excellently when I put it into storage. Largely due to a recent cylinder head overhaul and full suspension refresh. Both made a world of difference. I think the suspension on the Cayman will be up for a replacement soon - possibly next summer. It doesn't seem to be too hard a job.

How much would you budget for a full suspension refresh on a 987? I had new front springs on mine last year, but the rest of it is original on a 14 year old car. It's low mileage and still feels fine to me, but I often wonder if it has deteriorated a bit without me noticing it.

The indy that drove it last year didn't pick up on anything though.

The front springs are probably the cheapest part.

You'll need

Top mounts
Shocks
Springs
Lower control arms
Tuning forks
There is the third arm at the rear which does toe - is that called toe control arm or something - and on thr front it goes form the steering rack to the hub
Anti roll bar bushes - no these are the cheapest part
There is also a little drop link for the anti roll bar

Is that is lads?

I'm gonna throw out a wild estimate at £2500 in parts.