I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

I've just bought some poverty Pork ....

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ATM

9,541 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th September
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cmoose said:
ATM said:
LeChuck.. said:
ooid said:
Gen 2 boxster, PDK, 2.9 engine, less than 10k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
That got me looking.. can't be right, Dealer has a lot of suspiciously looking cheap cars... shame as at 2 x the 2000 986 local to me, it seems a bargain.
Why cant it be right. Phone HIM.
Aye. It would be a tough sell at much more money than that. Not many examples about with mileage like that. Does the value no good at all.

Even at sub £9k that red 987.2 Croc has been listed for a while. Market hates leggy modern Pork, it's just the way it is.
Good cheap pork snotter if you ask me.

2Btoo

1,163 posts

148 months

Thursday 12th September
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ATM said:
Good cheap pork snotter if you ask me.
Only on Pistonheads could nine grand's worth of Porsche Cayman be described as a 'snotter' .... smile

ATM

9,541 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th September
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2Btoo said:
ATM said:
Good cheap pork snotter if you ask me.
Only on Pistonheads could nine grand's worth of Porsche Cayman be described as a 'snotter' .... smile
Its cheap in Porsche land that. If I didnt have 2 porks already I'd be tempted.

cmoose

44,923 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th September
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It's worth thinking about crank shells with that kind of mileage, especially if the plan was to add significant mileage.

It's my understanding that crank shells will be the next big topic / thing for us all to stress about regards late mainstream Porsche flat sixes...!

As the fleet average mileage edges up, will represent an ever growing proportion of failures, especially for specific engine types that are not score prone. I saw some torn down M96s earlier this week that had failed in this manner and it's not nice. You can essentially lose the case, making a rebuild either expensive or impossible.

LeChuck..

105 posts

44 months

Thursday 12th September
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Tried calling a few times re the cheap PDK Boxster above, no response yet.
Few on eBay for 14-16k with similar miles.
MOT history isn’t too bad. Shame I’m not local, looks to be a trader from home.

ATM

9,541 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th September
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cmoose said:
It's worth thinking about crank shells with that kind of mileage, especially if the plan was to add significant mileage.

It's my understanding that crank shells will be the next big topic / thing for us all to stress about regards late mainstream Porsche flat sixes...!

As the fleet average mileage edges up, will represent an ever growing proportion of failures, especially for specific engine types that are not score prone. I saw some torn down M96s earlier this week that had failed in this manner and it's not nice. You can essentially lose the case, making a rebuild either expensive or impossible.
Oh NO

Can they be changed with the engine in situ?

Is this still a problem on the DFI or is it too early to say?

ooid

1,560 posts

45 months

Thursday 12th September
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Ive just randomly search on AT to see the highest mileage Pork.. Its 993 biggrin

more than among all the other usual casualties like 944 or cayenne's

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...


Fast Bug

7,240 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th September
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There’s a 300k mile 964 floating around for sale on Facebook I saw the other day

ooid

1,560 posts

45 months

Thursday 12th September
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Fast Bug said:
There’s a 300k mile 964 floating around for sale on Facebook I saw the other day
Show us! biggrin

cheap gen 2 boxster pdk is good but one must remember, any modern Volkswagen AG (or Porsche AG) car can not be trusted after 150k.. so it might be a good weekend fun for a few years with low mile usage, thats it.

Fast Bug

7,240 posts

106 months

Thursday 12th September
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ooid said:
Show us! biggrin

cheap gen 2 boxster pdk is good but one must remember, any modern Volkswagen AG (or Porsche AG) car can not be trusted after 150k.. so it might be a good weekend fun for a few years with low mile usage, thats it.

edc

7,421 posts

196 months

Thursday 12th September
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ooid said:
Show us! biggrin

cheap gen 2 boxster pdk is good but one must remember, any modern Volkswagen AG (or Porsche AG) car can not be trusted after 150k.. so it might be a good weekend fun for a few years with low mile usage, thats it.
Nothing like a good sweeping generalisation and some scare mongering to keep a thread going. I'm not quite at 150k on my 986 but plenty others have gone beyond with just regular servicing. The doom mongers would say the same about Land Rover products and I bought a P38 with 175k on the odo and an L322 with 155k and no service history. Both ran for 10 - 15k as dailies and a year with no major self destruction dramas.

Rosewood Red

381 posts

98 months

Thursday 12th September
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ooid said:
Show us! biggrin

cheap gen 2 boxster pdk is good but one must remember, any modern Volkswagen AG (or Porsche AG) car can not be trusted after 150k.. so it might be a good weekend fun for a few years with low mile usage, thats it.
You do spout some garbage, ooid.

kippax

2,784 posts

194 months

Friday 13th September
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Been offered a lovely 2007 Cayman 3.4s (116k Miles) with good history for around £10k
Sounds like a good deal to me thoughts please as it’s Boxters I’m used to?


2Btoo

1,163 posts

148 months

Friday 13th September
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Do some googling, both on here and elsewhere. Those engines are meant to be the ones prone to bore score, but the debate about that and RMS bearings will rage until the end of time ... .

cmoose

44,923 posts

174 months

Friday 13th September
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There is no debate that the 3.4 M97 is the only engine in any Boxster or Cayman that is particularly prone to scoring.

One can debate precisely how prone it is. But not that it is prone. Because it is!

The simple answer is don't buy it without scoping the bores.

Magnum 475

1,244 posts

77 months

Friday 13th September
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ATM said:
cmoose said:
It's worth thinking about crank shells with that kind of mileage, especially if the plan was to add significant mileage.

It's my understanding that crank shells will be the next big topic / thing for us all to stress about regards late mainstream Porsche flat sixes...!

As the fleet average mileage edges up, will represent an ever growing proportion of failures, especially for specific engine types that are not score prone. I saw some torn down M96s earlier this week that had failed in this manner and it's not nice. You can essentially lose the case, making a rebuild either expensive or impossible.
Oh NO

Can they be changed with the engine in situ?

Is this still a problem on the DFI or is it too early to say?
On most flat engines the only way to change the bearing shells involves splitting the crank case, so unlikely. Someone may correct me for M96 / M97, but I don't think you can change main & big end shells without opening up the crankcase. It's going to be expensive. Very expensive. I suspect that regular oil changes - at least 12 months / 6,000 miles will probably help to extend the life of these components, as will not working your engine hard until it's warmed through.

It would be interesting to hear from some of the people who've got very high mileage pork in terms of the engine work they've had done. I think there's one poster on PH with a 996 that's approaching 300k miles.







buccal

431 posts

137 months

Yesterday (16:15)
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Chaps,

Been running about in an NC MX5 for a few months which I have been really enjoying.

I’m considering doing a few mods but I keep coming back to 986’s for similar money.

Wondered what the collective wisdom was on this car (which seems to have the perfect spec to me)?

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

cmoose

44,923 posts

174 months

Yesterday (16:29)
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If you want devil's advocate...

Re perfect spec, well, it doesn't have extended leather, so plastic dash and door cards. Overpriced given it's on over 80,000 miles.

At that mileage, if it's on original dampers and suspension arms, they'll be pretty tired. No mention of suspension refresh. Which is true of most of them. But then owner is asking top dollar and implies the car has been made 'mechanically perfect'. So that raises expectations.

Not wild about the wheels personally as they don't do much for the drive. But not really an issue as if you feel that way, you could swap to 17s, very likely with money in pocket to boot.

Tough crowd and all that, I realise! Could well be a decent buy, especially at the right price, but may not be the 'perfect' mechanical proposition the owner is pitching it as. And it's definitely not a bargain.

buccal

431 posts

137 months

Yesterday (16:39)
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Cheers cmoose,

That’s exactly the kind of useful reply I was hoping for.

I did see in various points in the thread that extended cow made a big difference.

I’m not a fan of big wheels at the best of times but a relatively easy fix.

Sounds like I need to do a bit more research around what’s available for that budget.



Edited by buccal on Wednesday 18th September 16:54

cmoose

44,923 posts

174 months

Yesterday (16:52)
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The leather is purely cosmetic. Many don't care about it at all.

But primarily to me it looks a bit pricey given the miles and private sale. Unfortunately, for better or worse, the market abhors miles on a Porsche. For me, a car advertised privately for £8k realistically needs to have lower miles or something really special going for it like a quality rebuild or mega mechanical refresh.