How easy is it to clock a 997?

How easy is it to clock a 997?

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Candellara

1,876 posts

182 months

Tuesday 12th June 2012
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Guyr said:
the worst ones for this are Ferraris, since mileage absolutely destroys their value.
Never believe mileage's on any Ferrari 5 yrs + old in my experience. Buy on condition every time

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Henry-F said:
A 30k mls car overdue a service suddenly becomes 11-14k mls, not overdue anymore.....
Considering the 20k mile service intervals on these cars, this is VERY bad news is'nt it? Your example could have its first service at over 40k!!!!

This boils my blood. furious

MTR


Edited by mollytherocker on Friday 15th June 01:08

Acf69

407 posts

171 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Scary stuff....

Sadi-rnhry

10 posts

91 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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No way to tell if the car is clocked or not especially if the clocking is done by a professional
Porsches are so well build that it is impossible to tell especially the car is only clocked less than 25 percent of its mileage
You have zero chance of catching a real crook
Clockers clock before the main service and they service the car by a specialist in between so the car is still in condition
Check everything and hope the car is genuine or not clocked more than few thousand miles
Fact is
Other than main dealers forget about the rest
You are buying cheap and cheap for a reason
No free meals
Too good to be true
For sure not true

ex1

2,729 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Sadi-rnhry said:
No way to tell if the car is clocked or not especially if the clocking is done by a professional
Porsches are so well build that it is impossible to tell especially the car is only clocked less than 25 percent of its mileage
You have zero chance of catching a real crook
Clockers clock before the main service and they service the car by a specialist in between so the car is still in condition
Check everything and hope the car is genuine or not clocked more than few thousand miles
Fact is
Other than main dealers forget about the rest
You are buying cheap and cheap for a reason
No free meals
Too good to be true
For sure not true
This is utter horse st!

Some people don't want to give the main dealer a £10k margin and chose to do things themselves or through an indi. This can often make it better value that from a franchise dealer and doesn't automatically make it clocked.

SRT Hellcat

7,031 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Great first post Sadi. Welcome to the forum

cadmunkey

453 posts

89 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Nice thread bump! I wonder if the dealer still sold it to the next mug as a 9.5k mileage car?

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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S1MMA said:
Interesting one:

I was making an enquiry towards a 997 GT2 that I spotted, white of course - very nice Harry.

Anyway, its a 2009 model (PCM3), showing 9,500 on the clock but with no service book. Supplying dealer (non-OPC) was kind enough to text me the chassis number to confirm it's had a service as one would have been due by 2011. No problemo, easy to get another book and rectify. So I call Porsche, and the nice man confirms its been serviced in 2011, great. What milage? 27,000. WTF?

The supplying dealer was a bit shocked. They bought the car outright also it seems so now have a lemon which has been clocked.

So how easy is it to do this? And how easy is it to spot if done? Can OPC tell if a car has been played around with?
whats the reg ?

danny tattersall

746 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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woollyjoe said:
I know a few cars for sale now that have been clocked. All well over £100k.

What is just as shocking is that the sellers know they are clocked. One person clocked a limited edition car, try to flip it, was caught out, but the sales garage still bought the car. They knowingly sell the car clocked but won't tell the buyer.

As a result of how many high end cars I know to be clocked, I would not buy a low mileage car as I simply don't believe a car does 500 miles in a year for example.
No doubt that is true in a lot of cases but I drive my Lotus 340R as much as possible and have only averaged 500 miles per year in the last 3 years. The two previous owners managed similar as it has only covered 8,000 miles in 17 years.

clio007

542 posts

225 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Porsche911R said:
whats the reg ?
The OP is from 2012

SFO

5,169 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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you can also check MOT history, which has mileage readings

menor95

188 posts

126 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Can we have a link to the car in question?

Unbusy

934 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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2012. coffee

S1MMA

Original Poster:

2,378 posts

219 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Holy thread resurrection etc

Demon, the car was for sale in the auto free zone in Dubai, its LHD and originally supplied from Qatar. I was living over there at the time. I don't think I even have the vin any more, was on a Dubai phone which I tossed.

It was a nice enough GT2, and the mileage was in KM so either way if someone had been running it for the last 5 years or so it would probably have been a good car, just not for me. Was strong money also then, but worth double now obv.

Carlson W6

857 posts

124 months

Friday 28th April 2017
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Surely if people can get into the ECU and change the operating hours to match the clocked mileage they could also remove the over revs, in which case I'm not sure that over revs would be showing up so regularly?