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Box - 911 Has anyone done it and wanted the Boxster back?

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jakesmith

1,813 posts

94 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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Interesting reading. I have had a 986 2.5, a 987.1 2.7 and currently have 50k to spend. Tested this week: r8, vantage, slk55 Amg, 997.1 c4s and 987.2s. The only one I am considering is the 987s 3.4 and even that doesn't feel like much of a step up from the 2.7 for £20k more

SonnyM

3,415 posts

116 months

Saturday 15th September 2012
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jakesmith said:
Interesting reading. I have had a 986 2.5, a 987.1 2.7 and currently have 50k to spend. Tested this week: r8, vantage, slk55 Amg, 997.1 c4s and 987.2s. The only one I am considering is the 987s 3.4 and even that doesn't feel like much of a step up from the 2.7 for £20k more
If you have that much to spend why not buy a decent specced 981S?

Full leather, 20" wheels, PASM, PSE, Sports steering wheel, Manual gearbox, Sports seats, plus a few other bobs will take you to around £52k - and if you go to a good OPC you can get a discount too.

jakesmith

1,813 posts

94 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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SonnyM said:
If you have that much to spend why not buy a decent specced 981S?

Full leather, 20" wheels, PASM, PSE, Sports steering wheel, Manual gearbox, Sports seats, plus a few other bobs will take you to around £52k - and if you go to a good OPC you can get a discount too.
Good suggestion but I don't like the spoiler/lights at the back. You've got to be in love with a car to spend 60k on it.

London GT3

775 posts

164 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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SonnyM said:
and if you go to a good OPC you can get a discount too.
Has anyone secured a discount on a 981S?

wizard263789

32 posts

128 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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Yes, in my case the dealer offered an 'over value' on trade-in or a similar discount for no-trade. I sold the car privately and took the discount.

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worldwidewebs

897 posts

173 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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wizard263789 said:
Yes, in my case the dealer offered an 'over value' on trade-in or a similar discount for no-trade. I sold the car privately and took the discount.
What discount did you get, may I ask?

wizard263789

32 posts

128 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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worldwidewebs said:
What discount did you get, may I ask?
A few percent; better than nothing but not as good as the 10%+ you would perhaps expect on a more 'standard' car.


PorscheJeck

12 posts

65 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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hugedouche said:
I wouldn't, as good as the box is, and it really is good, It just never got under my skin like the 911 has, which once you get use to it is a more rewarding drive and just feels special...
I could see the "more rewarding drive" argument (playing with the unique rear engine package) for earlier generations, but not anymore for the 9X1 series. To really feel the rear engine in the 991 you have to do crazy things not really recommended for public road driving. For me the new BoxsterS actually carries more of the "old" Porsche values than the 991: sporty, nimble, reasonably prised, capitalizing on the superb handling rather than crazy hp numbers. German mag "Porschefahrer" summed it up nicely: what has been the 3.2 Carrera decades ago today is the Boxster.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

169 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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PorscheJeck said:
For me the new BoxsterS actually carries more of the "old" Porsche values than the 991: sporty, nimble, reasonably prised, capitalizing on the superb handling rather than crazy hp numbers.
That's why I bought one!

PorscheJeck

12 posts

65 months

Sunday 16th September 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
That's why I bought one!
Congrats to you and many happy miles ! Picked up mine just 9 days ago (report will follow after a break-in vacation commencing on Wednesday). For rear engine joy I keep my 997.1 GT3 (dedicated tracktoy) but for sporty open top road driving the BoxsterS is my favourite by far (traded in a 987.1 S after 120 k very happy km).

huytonman

307 posts

117 months

Monday 17th September 2012
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My recently delivered 981-S, manual with PSE is much more engaging and provides a better feel good factor than my 997S-Gen2 which I thought was a bit bland except when tanking along. The loss of my license put me back in a 987 and then the 981 which is a massive leap in capability over the earlier boxsters. Btw the pse in sport mode is a great toy - make me laugh everytime It spits back and rumbles on the overrun but the missus isnt impressed so it must be good! Strangely I had PSE on my 997 and it was hard to tell when it was on or off...if you need a 2+2 though the 997 is a very capable car and I would happily have one again if circumstances demanded it.

Gouldian

88 posts

68 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Apart from Silverstone PEC, the only long run so far from the south coast was to the Cotswolds over this weekend. Unless your 981 "S" is a daily driver and you spend time in traffic, a radio/cd is totally redundant if you have the sports exhaust. Certainly a total waste of money to upgrade when the sound is as intoxicating as Porsche have managed to achieve.
Park brake is wrong way round, but eventually got used to it. Only other criticism so far, is the lack of clarity through the fabric wind deflector as it breaks rear images into pixels and should have been clear glass like the earlier models. All in all, whether on motorway or winding country lane, an extremely competent car on standard wheels, without PASM etc., just delivers exactly what you want when you want it. Certainly light years further on from my 986 "S" and I thought that was brilliant! Oh yes, the manual gearbox is a must, quite superb and you feel as if you are driving the car rather than being driven, total involvement.
Out of a dozen or so people over three days who stopped to talk about the car, 3 thought it was a Ferrari!!To be fair this is the best looking car Porsche have produced and does have a more visually Italian rather than German character.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Gouldian said:
All in all, whether on motorway or winding country lane, an extremely competent car on standard wheels, without PASM etc., just delivers exactly what you want when you want it. Certainly light years further on from my 986 "S" and I thought that was brilliant! Oh yes, the manual gearbox is a must, quite superb and you feel as if you are driving the car rather than being driven, total involvement.
Yes, I've done about 400 miles now and loving it. When I did my test drives the OPC only had PDK cars and at first I thought I'd buy one, although one or two transmission shunts annoyed me a bit. So I wated to try a manual and had a go in a 911 to check out Mr Porsche's skills in building a amanual box, and that's what I ordered.

The 6-speed manual is absolutely superb now that I'm learning my way around it.

[But the bloomin' HOLD function seems to have a life of its own. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I'd happily can it alongside the rest of the electric parking brake system.]

Gouldian

88 posts

68 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Another difference Ozzie that I noticed between manual and PDK. On the overun the PDK made a rather farty higher pitch blow back that I found tiresome, the manual on the other hand has a much throatier rumble on overun that can be sustained by throttle control. Whether this is normal or just that test car I don't know. I've had mine for a month now and still not seen a 981 on the road, so no opportunity to compare manual/PDK. with another owner.

GT03ROB

5,706 posts

144 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Can't really comment on the original question, but having just bought a 987s, I think I know which between the Boxster & GT3 will get more use.

It won't be the GT3.

BIRMA

2,140 posts

117 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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I must say I'm finding this thread to be a very useful guide to my ultimate decision, like I have said I tried the 997 911 Turbo S and thought it was everything I wanted in a car but having then just jumped in to a Boxster S as a wild card I was blown away by the instant grin factor of the Boxster plus in my particular case I still find the inevitable depreciation of the Turbo S something I'm not prepared to swallow at this moment in time. I think one of the problems these days is people do tend to have ideas about cars they haven't even tried and I have to admit to be one of those who up until I tried one thought of the Boxster was the 911's poorer sibling. My conclusion now is I'll probably buy a 2007 Boxster S with PASM and Chrono run it for a few years and have fun then sell it when the 911 has levelled out depreciation wise.

Zyp

9,815 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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GT03ROB said:
Can't really comment on the original question, but having just bought a 987s, I think I know which between the Boxster & GT3 will get more use.

It won't be the GT3.
ears

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Gouldian said:
On the overun the PDK made a rather farty higher pitch blow back that I found tiresome, the manual on the other hand has a much throatier rumble on overun that can be sustained by throttle control.
Yes, the PDK soundtrack is different especially with the "Sport" and/or "Sport Plus" buttons pressed.

I have yet to establish what, if anything, the "Sport" button does in my manual car with conventional suspension. Apart from turning on a little red light. I seem to have two buttons both of which turn off stop/start (thank goodness) one of which lights up a green symbol on the dash and the other doesn't. Very handy.

Anyone else noticed stop/start can't be fully switched off? It re-starts the car whenever I stall it.... smile

Zyp

9,815 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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The Sport button in a manual car should just increase throttle response and let the PSM kick in a bit later.

(if the same as the 987)

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

169 months

Wednesday 19th September 2012
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Zyp said:
The Sport button in a manual car should just increase throttle response and let the PSM kick in a bit later.(if the same as the 987)
Thanks, I'd forgotten the PSM trigger points could be backed off a bit. I've got a large right shoe which deals with the throttle aspect! smile