996 tt vs. audi r8

996 tt vs. audi r8

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Alf Essex

1,467 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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REALIST123 said:
Interesting priorities.......

Also, you might like to check out the relationship between the two manufacturers. Do you really believe they're that different or is that in the eye of the beholder? And surely the R8/10 is a much less mass produced car than any road going Porsche?
smile Yes i've done my homework thanks lol

I guess its called, having my own view, doesnt mean im right though eh wink

Raitzi

640 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Steering feel, chassis and track handling and distribution of power are better in R8. On street 911 is plenty good enough and with extra space for storage and back seats.

VonSenger

2,465 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Raitzi said:
Steering feel, chassis and track handling and distribution of power are better in R8. On street 911 is plenty good enough and with extra space for storage and back seats.
Yep, this. 996TT was a brilliant all rounder and rip your face off quick in a straight line. Ive done the ring in both cars a few times, always more fun and quicker in the R8. The 996 felt just too heavy, abit numb and the lag was really noticable when you were trying to be neat and go for a clean lap.
However, the R8 can be abit boring poodling around town or sitting on the motorway where as short blasts in the 996 always kept you entertained. The sound of the 996 was the biggest let down, the R8 is great in that respect especially with a Miltek or similar on it.

But I do miss my turbo. frown

ZeroH

2,905 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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VonSenger said:
Yep, this. 996TT was a brilliant all rounder and rip your face off quick in a straight line. Ive done the ring in both cars a few times, always more fun and quicker in the R8. The 996 felt just too heavy, abit numb and the lag was really noticable when you were trying to be neat and go for a clean lap.
However, the R8 can be abit boring poodling around town or sitting on the motorway where as short blasts in the 996 always kept you entertained. The sound of the 996 was the biggest let down, the R8 is great in that respect especially with a Miltek or similar on it.

But I do miss my turbo. frown
Your welcome to have a drive of mine if you ever want a reminder of that turbo feeling mate !

g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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I was following a lovely dark grey '07 R8 into work this morning in my slate grey X50 996 turbo. Certainly looked good but the pace and ability of the turbo especially in the UK's unpredictable weather makes it a joy to own!

tjlees

1,382 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Fifty shades had an R8 looked at women he pulled hehe ... Hang-on I need to transport my three girls. That will be a Porsche for me then.

Both are brilliant cars, but 996tt and definitely the 997.2tt S would have the Audi on both the drag strip and twisties from my limited driving of both.

VonSenger

2,465 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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tjlees said:
but 996tt and definitely the 997.2tt S would have the Audi on both the drag strip and twisties from my limited driving of both.
No chance. You've obviously never driven one on a tight circuit, in the right hands and over a prolonged period you'd be a spec in the rear view mirror.

Ive driven both extensively across different terrains and tracks etc (3 years in each), and Im a big 996tt fan, but the weight and engine position means you are dealing with a loose rear, after a while moving/flexing tyre walls, brake fade and lag. You just don't get this in the R8.

But the 996tt is just so mind blowing in a straight line, so on certain circuits it'll be gone, but you'd need some big straights.

Hello Zero, hows tricks. Have you moved yet?


tjlees

1,382 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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VonSenger said:
tjlees said:
but 996tt and definitely the 997.2tt S would have the Audi on both the drag strip and twisties from my limited driving of both.
No chance. You've obviously never driven one on a tight circuit, in the right hands and over a prolonged period you'd be a spec in the rear view mirror.
Not sure that any of these are ideal for track at 1.5+t. However over the ring 996tt is 7:56, R8 v8 is 8:04, 997.2tt is 7:38 and the R8 v10 is 7:44 in the right hands ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgr...

I would personally choose a radical sr8 at 6:48 for this type of work wink ... At snip at £62k brand new.

As a reference the 991 S pdk is 7:37.9.

Gibbo205

3,550 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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R8 vs 996 turbo I do think the R8 should be the better handler as it's lighter etc. Than the 996. But 997 no way.

For reference at Donny I had some great laps battling with an R8 V8 and even though it took a few laps I did catch and eventually he let me pass. For comparison sake straight lines was near identical if anything I gained 1-2 car lengths on back straight. Corner speed was near identical but where I gained the most was braking. My car 997 C2S, so in the dry very similar, in the wet however R8 was quicker for sure.

jackal

11,248 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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franki68 said:
Owned an r8v8 ,996turbo and 997 turbo

If take the r8 every time ,don't really care if it's slower in a straight line .
To be fair though, a 911 turbo should be compared to something like an RS6.


Natural competitor for an R8 is a GTS imo.





Slaav

4,253 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Right Wolfie, how about a car swap for a weekend? Not the DIsco - Noddy!

How about it? Promise we wont take the pish and just go home and back over a typical weekend smile


homerdog

244 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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VonSenger said:
No chance. You've obviously never driven one on a tight circuit, in the right hands and over a prolonged period you'd be a spec in the rear view mirror.
R8 beaten around the track by a Boxster

http://youtu.be/Im5BSKMd0Ss

Raitzi

640 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Lap times are one thing but driving a car with real RWD bias makes the difference between the two not to mention more floaty suspension on the turbo.

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Both are great cars, we just have to accept that each may be faster than the other depending on the competence of the person driving them at the time whether rain or shine or road or track.

I just feel lucky to have owned both the R8 V10 and 997 TT S...

franki68

10,391 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Gibbo205 said:
R8 vs 996 turbo I do think the R8 should be the better handler as it's lighter etc. Than the 996. But 997 no way.

For reference at Donny I had some great laps battling with an R8 V8 and even though it took a few laps I did catch and eventually he let me pass. For comparison sake straight lines was near identical if anything I gained 1-2 car lengths on back straight. Corner speed was near identical but where I gained the most was braking. My car 997 C2S, so in the dry very similar, in the wet however R8 was quicker for sure.
The r8 handles much better than the 997 ...far easier to do exactly what you want in it.I got an invite at gen2 launch and spent the day thrashing gen2s round the track ....spent the whole time wishing I was in the r8 I drove down in.
The exception was the blast in the wink

Gibbo205

3,550 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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franki68 said:
The r8 handles much better than the 997 ...far easier to do exactly what you want in it.I got an invite at gen2 launch and spent the day thrashing gen2s round the track ....spent the whole time wishing I was in the r8 I drove down in.
The exception was the blast in the wink
Well on track I was faster, power to weight more or less identical, admittedly it was under braking where I gained most. But I'd say 997.2 GTS vs R8 V8 would be very well matched to each other.

My car is a 997.1 but is running around 370BHP, ceramics and weighed in at 1424kg with half tank fuel.

pkoc

Original Poster:

126 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th April 2013
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Well thanks everyone for their views, I didn't think it would prove to be such a popular post. Anyway, even whilst driving at "ahem" a rapid rate of knots, I was leaving a good distance between us, so I could tell you if it was V8/V10. However, the disappointment face from the R8 driver was when I had to pull on to a slip road to take my exit and he subsequently slowed to make eye contact.

Anyway, the point of my post is that I have only recently bought my 996 tt following an absense due like many, to having a young family. So the fact that the Mrs and the kids can all fit in (although not for the R8 sortie) means it is already fulfilling a whole bucket load of requirements for where I am in life right now.

In my opinion, the R8 is a astonishingly, ball achingly beautiful machine and it did sound effing awesome. And certainly when my kids are older and I don't need the rear seats, a 2 seater is on the wish list. But I can't help but think of my school boy days with Ferrari's and Lamborghinis and Porsches adorning my bedroom wall, that going Audi for 2 seater sports car is somehow settling for second best (in the used car sense because that is where my budget would most likely push me in the future)!

But until I am in the space for a 2 seater (at leastr 10 years away), I will continue to fall madly, deeply, and utterly in love with my 996 tt. For my budget and level of income, it does far more than I need of it performance wise, still looks modern, is distinctive enough to stand out from the crowd (I can be quite shallow!), and the family friendliness of it just completes the wish list.

henry boxer

17 posts

153 months

Wednesday 14th July 2021
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Late reply for anyone still interested!

I own a 996 turbo, modified by techart, and a R8V8.

Both are wonderful cars, different handling of course, but equally fun to drive

The v8 needs an aftermarket exhaust otherwise it doesnt deliver as an experience, but with that fitted, it is transformed.

The 996 turbo is faster and the more complete sports car.

But, and this is an important consideration. The R8 is one of the most beautiful sports cars ever designed, and with the manual gate, is sublime.

You cant go wrong with either.

Get both.


Chemical Ali

907 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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I am qualified as have had both. New r8 (if thats what it was), facelift or not, would wipe the floor with 996 turbo. Not that the turbo is slow.

R8 would be either 3.4 or 3.7 0-60 for v10 or v10 plus (plus has a wing on it). 996 Turbo is stock 0-60 4.2. That is a chunk. Also the DSG gearbox in r8 would pull him further ahead once up and running.

The most likely is the r8 was playing with you, or enjoying his engine note which is absolutely stunning, perhaps the best out there.

Sorry pal. Turbo is quick, but r8 is next league.

henry boxer

17 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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My 996 turbo has been modified by TechArt, larger turbos, ECU remap, competition clutch, Bilstein suspension and more. It puts out around 565 BHP and 600 ft lbs of torque. So a lot faster than the R8V and as fast or possibly faster than the V10.

But as I said I love both. They are different, and the R8V8 with the manual gate is a joy.

I have a TopGear exhaust on the R8 which has completely transformed the car, the sound is extraordinary. The 996 also has an after market sports exhaust, which again improves its sound hugely.