Cayman R Chat

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J-P

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3,899 posts

147 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Don't know if anybody else has noticed this but on the Porsche AUC website there are only 4 Cayman Rs available - all 'wrong' spec and selling for up to £48k!

Is this the impact of the new 4cyl Cayman and Boxsters? If so, great!

Went out in mine today for a quick blast - what a wonderful machine. It will need some new boots soon, I'm thinking MPSC 2 would be just what the doctor ordered.

Twinfan

3,607 posts

45 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Can't speak for the R, but I've been watching GTSs and they seem to be selling well at OPCs with high prices.

It'll be interesting to see how the market pans out...

nw942

260 posts

46 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Speculators moving further down the range?

Twinfan

3,607 posts

45 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Could well be.

How are Spyders holding up?

J-P

Original Poster:

3,899 posts

147 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Twinfan said:
Could well be.

How are Spyders holding up?
There are only 2 but the new Spyder is very similar to the old one, whereas, there's nothing quite like the R. GT4 is essentially very different as its a Motorsport product - GTS is similar but not quite the same.


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boxsey

3,358 posts

151 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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I'd love to chat about the R but haven't managed to find the right one to buy yet. So if anyone is selling let me know...has to be PDK though...my excuse being that it will be used mostly as a daily driver. getmecoat

Porsche911R

16,495 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Nice low miles red one with PDK for sale ATM.

Don't think you will find buying a PDK will be an issue with the main items of buckets and spyder wheels.

boxsey

3,358 posts

151 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Nice low miles red one with PDK for sale ATM.

Don't think you will find buying a PDK will be an issue with the main items of buckets and spyder wheels.
If you mean the one in Lincoln, it does indeed look good and the right spec for me. However, I think it's a little over-priced and am wondering why it's already on its fifth owner?

Porsche911R

16,495 posts

206 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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All the cars have jumped up in the last 2 months. And finding low mile 5 year old cars is not easy now.

ian964

529 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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boxsey said:
If you mean the one in Lincoln, it does indeed look good and the right spec for me. However, I think it's a little over-priced and am wondering why it's already on its fifth owner?
If you can live with the red interior, the black one at Targa Florio is good value - full spec (PCM, PSE, PCCB, xenons, carbon buckets, Sports chrono, climate, spyder wheels, 21K miles) for 42K. Just that interior...!

Slippydiff

10,332 posts

164 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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boxsey said:
If you mean the one in Lincoln, it does indeed look good and the right spec for me. However, I think it's a little over-priced and am wondering why it's already on its fifth owner?
Well if one applies David's logic regarding the large number of former owners on GT3 logbooks, it can only mean one thing : The Cayman R is a cr*p car, I mean what other reason could an owner have for selling a car .... ? ? smile

Shades of David to convince us there must have been something inherently "wrong" with the 991 GT3 as so many of them "threw themselves into the scenery" in the early days, strange that the GT4 uses the same front end components and yet David seems to have conveniently gone very quiet since that fact was announced prior to the launch of the GT4 ..... biggrin



Porsche911R

16,495 posts

206 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Slippydiff said:
Well if one applies David's logic regarding the large number of former owners on GT3 logbooks, it can only mean one thing : The Cayman R is a cr*p car, I mean what other reason could an owner have for selling a car .... ? ? smile

Shades of David to convince us there must have been something inherently "wrong" with the 991 GT3 as so many of them "threw themselves into the scenery" in the early days, strange that the GT4 uses the same front end components and yet David seems to have conveniently gone very quiet since that fact was announced prior to the launch of the GT4 ..... biggrin
I would not touch a 5 owner car myself, I do love the R though and tried to buy another last Friday, but due to being busy at work missed out on a mega one owner car :-)

I cannot ever see me saying a 991 GT3 throws you off, this was what I said about the 996 GT3 at 120mph on UK B roads it gets a bit out of hand ;-)

the 991 GT3 and GT4 give quite a plush ride and they take 120mph B roads one handed with ease, firm but very plush.


I see you sold your GT3 :-p are you buying an R lol

J-P

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3,899 posts

147 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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ian964 said:
boxsey said:
If you mean the one in Lincoln, it does indeed look good and the right spec for me. However, I think it's a little over-priced and am wondering why it's already on its fifth owner?
If you can live with the red interior, the black one at Targa Florio is good value - full spec (PCM, PSE, PCCB, xenons, carbon buckets, Sports chrono, climate, spyder wheels, 21K miles) for 42K. Just that interior...!
Agreed but why are the seats in such shocking condition? Mine is that age, and the leather is a little shiny on the driver's side but is otherwise as new - that Targa Florio car's leather looks like it's aged about an extra 10 years?

boxsey

3,358 posts

151 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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J-P said:
Agreed but why are the seats in such shocking condition? Mine is that age, and the leather is a little shiny on the driver's side but is otherwise as new - that Targa Florio car's leather looks like it's aged about an extra 10 years?
I thought the same but even if they were in good condition I'd still not be able get that colour past SWMBO!

Dan911

2,448 posts

149 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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ian964 said:
If you can live with the red interior, the black one at Targa Florio is good value - full spec (PCM, PSE, PCCB, xenons, carbon buckets, Sports chrono, climate, spyder wheels, 21K miles) for 42K. Just that interior...!
EX PEC vehicle? (I think, there can't be too many with Red). If you youtube Cayman R it shows it being driven by one of the instructors.

Max13

29 posts

146 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Mine will be for sale soon, black with black, manual, buckets, spyder wheels, sports chrono and pse and extended warranty until May.

Best car I've owned, but sadly times change and it needs to go

23AJK

645 posts

90 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Buy a Cayman GTS, the CR was a great car but that's progress for you.

Shiny new'ish GTS for £55-60k or 5yr old 5 owner CR for nearly £50k. Hmmmm

And before I get jumped on yes I had a manual CR in 2012 for 6000 miles, loved it but not as much as the Spyder PDK that precluded it.

boxsey

3,358 posts

151 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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23AJK said:
Shiny new'ish GTS for £55-60k or 5yr old 5 owner CR for nearly £50k. Hmmmm
That's what I call fudging the figures! biggrin A GTS is closer to £60K than £55K where as an honest well used CR is closer to £40K (I'm not interested in low mileage OPC cars). Which all adds up to adding nearly £20K to the budget in the real world!

Dan911

2,448 posts

149 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Much as I like the look of the GTS (needs to be more aggressive from the rear), I didn't like how it drove. Too clinical and steering was a little light.

The R (to me) feels like a sports car, light, nimble and you know what the car is doing, bit like my old MK1 GT3 but grown up. One thing modern Porsche's can't seem to find at the moment. (unless you go GT3/4 of course)

£40-45k for a nice spec sub 25,000 mile R is a bargain! IMO


J-P

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3,899 posts

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Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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23AJK said:
Buy a Cayman GTS, the CR was a great car but that's progress for you.

Shiny new'ish GTS for £55-60k or 5yr old 5 owner CR for nearly £50k. Hmmmm

And before I get jumped on yes I had a manual CR in 2012 for 6000 miles, loved it but not as much as the Spyder PDK that precluded it.
The CR is a great car. I tried the new GTS on track and I did like it but it's not worth a premium over the R IMHO. The steering is nowhere near as good and the exhaust noise is fun for about 10 mins and then overly contrived and annoying. Handling is good on both but all aspects of the R are honest - passive sports suspension, hydraulic PAS, proper handbrake = better driver's car wink