Chances of getting a 991.2 GT3?

Chances of getting a 991.2 GT3?

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Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Will people back out if the new GT3 is a turbo ?

acey81

177 posts

110 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Some. But I wonder if that is as big a thing as going PDK only? I'm sure they won't have any problems selling them anyway. For most people newer and faster always equals better.

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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apachesmith said:
I've just heard a rumor from an OPC that the new GT3 and GT2 or any request for a new GT car for that matter needs to be made directly to Porsche GB - They will then do the vetting and if your successful will put you in touch with a local Porsche dealership! What the vetting is they didn't go into detail but I'm guessing your previous history with the brand etc. This is quite a change from the old system if its true, has anyone else heard about this?
Better knock together a youtube channel then...

Bieldside

583 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Any halo car is by invitation only nowadays I've been told
So if you have no history you have no chance
But good luck all the same

Evolved

3,565 posts

187 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Bieldside said:
Any halo car is by invitation only nowadays I've been told
So if you have no history you have no chance
But good luck all the same
Am I the only one that reads this and thinks WTAF, the manufacturer decides if they want to sell you a car or not! They'll check you've spent enough money and wear the correct pullover to qualify no doubt.

It's all a little pretentious and silly. It's a damn car ffs, build them, sell them and let people who want to drive them, drive them!

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Evolved said:
It's all a little pretentious and silly. It's a damn car ffs, build them, sell them and let people who want to drive them, drive them!
But isn't that the point of this exercise (if true), to put them in the hands of enthusiasts that drive them, rather than flip them? Not arguing though, I'm not a fan of this approach either, but I think Porsche have woke up and realised this needs to change.

Budweiser

1,077 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Have 'R' owners signed agreeing not to sell for 2 years'

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Budweiser said:
Have 'R' owners signed agreeing not to sell for 2 years'
lol that will never happen, there are R's for sale now

jimmyslr

798 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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mdianuk said:
But isn't that the point of this exercise (if true), to put them in the hands of enthusiasts that drive them, rather than flip them? Not arguing though, I'm not a fan of this approach either, but I think Porsche have woke up and realised this needs to change.
If the buying history that is counted towards a person's eligibility is only new cars bought from an opc then one could debate the enthusiast definition, or at least say it's not complete. I'm not sure a Panamera, two Cayennes and a Boxster for the weekend makes someone an enthusiast. It undoubtedly makes them a decent customer in profitability terms and means they've taken plenty of depreciation. Taking me as an example, I've had a number of "enthusiast" Porsches but not bought a new one; I fear I won't get a look in.

I agree with the chap below - just make the cars and let people buy them. I recognise there is a fine line between meeting demand, the benefits of perceived exclusivity and the financial pain for all of a glut of stock, but it has always felt wrong to me that relatively normal cars are allocated like winning lottery tickets, sometimes in unsavoury ways. As was said, where's the jimmyslr YouTube channel....

Bieldside

583 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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I think the objective was to stop flipping
For a period OPCs were banned from selling over list so no GT3s etc
That seems to have softened

isaldiri

18,572 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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If Porsche truly wanted to stop flipping they would simply state that they were building as many cars as they had orders within a certain build window. That way the only silly over prices would be paid by people who can't wait for a later car. they almost certainly don't want to stop the speculators and just pay lip service to it in order to try and capture some of that extra premium themselves.

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Bieldside said:
I think the objective was to stop flipping
For a period OPCs were banned from selling over list so no GT3s etc
That seems to have softened
I don't believe opc's were banned from selling at over list; just advertising at over list!

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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apachesmith said:
I've just heard a rumor from an OPC that the new GT3 and GT2 or any request for a new GT car for that matter needs to be made directly to Porsche GB
Probably a Porsche owned OPC who told you this.

Franchised and owned OPCs will have sole discretion.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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isaldiri said:
If Porsche truly wanted to stop flipping they would simply state that they were building as many cars as they had orders within a certain build window. That way the only silly over prices would be paid by people who can't wait for a later car. they almost certainly don't want to stop the speculators and just pay lip service to it in order to try and capture some of that extra premium themselves.
yes

Abso-bloody-lutely.

BubblesNW

1,710 posts

183 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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From my OPC....


As discussed, Thank you for making us aware of your desire to purchase a 911 GT3, Gen 2 when production becomes available.

As I am sure you are aware, there is likely to be a greater desire for this vehicle in volume terms, than there is indeed production available. Should this turn out to be the case, Porsche Centre Sheffield will allocate production to customers based on the following criteria;

1. Must not have owned an exclusive product and sold it on within the last 12 months – A qualifying criteria.
2. You must have purchased a minimum of 10 Porsches from the centre
3. You should be known to the centre as a long term keeper of Porsche Vehicles
4. Geographically local and a supporter of the Centre
5. Loyalty to the centre

In the event of a tie, overall purchase volume will become the deciding factor, should a tie remain, the Brand Director will consider all cases and decide accordingly.

In the event that we are able to satisfy your desire to purchase a 911 GT3, Gen 2, we will confirm this in writing further to receipt of our allocation. At this point, you will be required to sign an order and to pay a deposit within 14 days, further to which the allocation will be forfeited. Until this time we would be unable to receive any deposits for this model.

Please note that in particular the date that you register your interest will have no bearing whatsoever on the allocation of build slots to customers.

Many Thanks for your interest.

Seems pretty clear to me but appears to not be consistent across all OPCs. They also said that they can't sell above list within 12 months of the end of production of a particular model.

gbrown2014

220 posts

113 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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BubblesNW said:
From my OPC....


As discussed, Thank you for making us aware of your desire to purchase a 911 GT3, Gen 2 when production becomes available.

As I am sure you are aware, there is likely to be a greater desire for this vehicle in volume terms, than there is indeed production available. Should this turn out to be the case, Porsche Centre Sheffield will allocate production to customers based on the following criteria;

1. Must not have owned an exclusive product and sold it on within the last 12 months – A qualifying criteria.
2. You must have purchased a minimum of 10 Porsches from the centre
3. You should be known to the centre as a long term keeper of Porsche Vehicles
4. Geographically local and a supporter of the Centre
5. Loyalty to the centre

In the event of a tie, overall purchase volume will become the deciding factor, should a tie remain, the Brand Director will consider all cases and decide accordingly.

In the event that we are able to satisfy your desire to purchase a 911 GT3, Gen 2, we will confirm this in writing further to receipt of our allocation. At this point, you will be required to sign an order and to pay a deposit within 14 days, further to which the allocation will be forfeited. Until this time we would be unable to receive any deposits for this model.

Please note that in particular the date that you register your interest will have no bearing whatsoever on the allocation of build slots to customers.

Many Thanks for your interest.

Seems pretty clear to me but appears to not be consistent across all OPCs. They also said that they can't sell above list within 12 months of the end of production of a particular model.
that's impossibly depressing

AndyCGTS

589 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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I was told from my local OPC that I can't have one (Due to not buying enough cars from them, which put me off buying any cars from them), even though I am known to them and have my car serviced etc... The above list is just depressing but I guess from a business sense it makes sense. However, from a potential owner sense lists like that will push people away from the brand IMO.

Edited by AndyCGTS on Thursday 11th August 14:21

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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So it's ok to be a serial flipper...just as long as you have not bought and sold in the last 12months.....
Means they get to keep the businnes partners/ friends in the club ...perhaps to share the upside





Either way good too see some documented criteria.(from at least one OPC)

Only 5 Porsches owned (none from the above mentioned OPC) means I won't be allowed to buy an exclusive model...what with me being a st porsche customer and all biggrin



Edited by Wilmslowboy on Thursday 11th August 14:25

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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That criteria is too limiting; I've only purchased 1 brand new Porsche from my OPC, but am relatively new to Porsche ownership, so that means I have to buy 'lesser' Porsche' first, before I'm entitled to a GT car?!?! Madness.

jimmyslr

798 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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mdianuk said:
That criteria is too limiting; I've only purchased 1 brand new Porsche from my OPC, but am relatively new to Porsche ownership, so that means I have to buy 'lesser' Porsche' first, before I'm entitled to a GT car?!?! Madness.
Agree with this. Sounds like madness. Are there really enough folk who wish to buy a GT3 that have also bought 10 new cars? I'm amazed. This must be music to the ears of mclaren. I might ring OPC Guildford and Portsmouth, as I'm between the two, and see what they say. It might amuse me or frustrate me.

Porsche - BUILD MORE CARS!