2018 Cayenne bets?......

[jamesiem]

my car went into build last week....how long did it take for your new cayenne’s to be delivered after build?

Getting twitchy now!

[Cheib]

jamesiem said:

my car went into build last week....how long did it take for your new cayenne’s to be delivered after build?

Getting twitchy now!

Two weeks from leaving factory to reaching the OPC is a good guide.

[nigestar]

moonigan said:

I've had mine now for 6 days and will mostly echo what has been said previously. The Audi influence is strong particularly with the switch gear.

The Porsche signature rotating light switch has been replaced by 4 glossy buttons which feel cheap and not very intuitive in their operation.
The glossy glass touch sensitive buttons on the central console will very quickly look like my ipad after the soaps on TV have finished.
The park button on the gear level takes some getting used to especially when the parking brake is so close. I've found myself putting the parking brake on instead of putting the car into park. In fact the car should automatically go into park if the parking brake is applied. Maybe this will happen when the software is patched.
The PDC system comes on automatically when you approach something which is normal. If you stop it goes off immediately and you have to start moving again for it to activate. I'd prefer it if it stayed on as it does with the Macan. You can turn the assist on central dash but its a bit of faff so I've programmed my diamond on the wheel to turn on the park assist.
I washed the car today and the rear windscreen wiper cover fell off and now doesn't click into place. Looking at it I would say its not the right part because there doesn't appear to be any way of clipping it into place. Its now in the boot and I'll call the OPC on Monday.

I have the standard PASM on 21" wheels and it feels nice and plush. My wife says if feels like a mini bus compared to the Macan in how it wafts along.
We've done around 140 miles of urban driving and have averaged 20mpg. The trick I think is to keep the revs below 2K. I suspect a heavy right foot will see the economy drop to low teens.
The engine is silent when moving which is nice after having the Macan diesel and Macan 2.0 prior to this.
Still cant figure out which app for apple/android I can use to view the connect services.
The roofline feels lower than my Macan did as I don't feel like I will be stretching as much when putting bikes on the roof.
I have the standard 8 way seats and they feel fine. I would have preferred the extended leather package but couldn't justify the cost.

Edited by moonigan on Saturday 2nd June 19:27

so are you happy ith it then?

[moonigan]

nigestar said:

so are you happy ith it then?

Yep. Its a very nice place to be. Just been to the shops and came back down a deserted bypass, the way it picks up speed is very impressive and this is just the base 3.0 turbo. I was struggling to see the £13K difference between the base car and the S before I took delivery now it strikes me as a bit of a rip off.

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moonigan said:

Yep. Its a very nice place to be. Just been to the shops and came back down a deserted bypass, the way it picks up speed is very impressive and this is just the base 3.0 turbo. I was struggling to see the £13K difference between the base car and the S before I took delivery now it strikes me as a bit of a rip off.

You get PASM as standard so I guess it’s £12k as most spec that.

They’ve upped their game on the base model it’s really more then capable. Add to that the Hybrids positioning and it does place the S in no mans land IMO. Wonder where they’ll slot the GTS when it arrives.

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jamesiem said:

my car went into build last week....how long did it take for your new cayenne’s to be delivered after build?

Getting twitchy now!

Was almost a month for me

But I think 2 weeks is norm.

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moonigan said:

The park button on the gear level takes some getting used to especially when the parking brake is so close. I've found myself putting the parking brake on instead of putting the car into park. In fact the car should automatically go into park if the parking brake is applied. Maybe this will happen when the software is patched.

The PDC system comes on automatically when you approach something which is normal. If you stop it goes off immediately and you have to start moving again for it to activate. I'd prefer it if it stayed on as it does with the Macan. You can turn the assist on central dash but its a bit of faff so I've programmed my diamond on the wheel to turn on the park assist.

Edited by moonigan on Saturday 2nd June 19:27

Coming from BMW I’m used to the park button, although not sure about the position. Also not sure why handbrake doesn’t engage park automatically.

Auto PDC is brilliant as it also pops up surround view. With surround view it doesn’t turn straight off when you stop (although perhaps I’m remembering wrong). So far it’s judgement seems good, not turning on so often that it becomes bothersome.

I’ve also programmed the diamond for PDC/SV. It’s the one button I use and they’ve stuck it up near the lights :/

[sajafzal]

jamesiem said:

my car went into build last week....how long did it take for your new cayenne’s to be delivered after build?

Getting twitchy now!

I would allow 3 weeks, and you should not be disappointed

Saj

[pete]

I’ve just done a first long journey in my S, about 450 miles return trip. Fuel economy was just under 32mpg (31.7 on the way up, 31.4 on the way back), with the adaptive cruise set to 75 or 80, but it was helped by a very long spell on the M6 at 50mph.

Normal pootling around town shows mid 20s, or 28mpg for a more normal A / B road journey. Given the car has less than 1000 miles on the clock, I’m expecting that to improve a little as it loosens up, but then I’ll also give it more beans, so who knows?!

It’s certainly a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde powertrain. Most of the time it grumbles around at 2000rpm sipping fuel and making the most of the torque. Then you drop a few gears, let it rev over 5000 and it makes a lovely noise and takes off like 2 tonnes of SUV has no right to. I bet the V8 Turbo is an absolute riot!

[Moog72]

Placed an order for an S a couple of weeks ago, trading “up” from a 981 Boxster S. Been told late Sept / Oct delivery. Was very impressed by the ride and performance for such a big hector, plus the interior tech is a step up. Looking forward to it!

[nigestar]

sajafzal said:

I would allow 3 weeks, and you should not be disappointed

Saj

Intrigued to learn ( upgrade to turbo version aside) if the new cabin tech and ambience, new rear light cluster is is sufficient compared to your old one. would the std new Petrol Cayenne be enough or would you stick?

I love look of new interior but how practical is the dash. A lot of new tech that could also go wrong if you plan to hold onto it beyond 3 years.

[Sierra Mike]

nigestar said:

Intrigued to learn ( upgrade to turbo version aside) if the new cabin tech and ambience, new rear light cluster is is sufficient compared to your old one. would the std new Petrol Cayenne be enough or would you stick?

I love look of new interior but how practical is the dash. A lot of new tech that could also go wrong if you plan to hold onto it beyond 3 years.

Coming from over 6 years in a Cayenne Diesel myself, I found the new tech rather overwhelming. However, after spending an evening (and half the night) reading the manual to try and learn the system, I think I’ve figure it out ... almost. I would say it’s very good albeit with some notable omissions with the primary ones being the inability to control either the telephone or radio with the multi-function steering wheel. Essentially, the new system makes a move towards voice activation and that’s not a surprise considering the improvements made in that area over the years.

The base petrol version probably has enough performance for most and the cabin is very comfortable. Is it better than the old cabin? I’d have to say no unless you value having the latest technology. That said, the new Cayenne is a pleasure to drive and handles really well. I’m lookimg for reasons to drive it which I can’t say I did with the old one.

[Cheib]

Sierra Mike said:

The base petrol version probably has enough performance for most and the cabin is very comfortable. Is it better than the old cabin? I’d have to say no unless you value having the latest technology. That said, the new Cayenne is a pleasure to drive and handles really well. I’m lookimg for reasons to drive it which I can’t say I did with the old one.

In terms of tech the latter cars of the old model had the updated PCM and I don't think lose out much compared to the new one....when I drove a Panny with the new PCM it seemed to have the same functionality as my 2017 Cayenne's PCM. Doesn't have the big screen though! I'll be honest I think I prefer the "button laden" interior of the older car.

[moonigan]

The collision warning/braking activated this morning when negotiating a narrow street with cars on either side. Car did a sharp dab of the brakes which scared the crap out of me and no doubt annoyed the car behind me. Also discovered the car will automatically put itself into park if you turn off the ignition or open the door. The rear wiper trim was re-fitted yesterday but it took some time. Fortunately they had another car that they could remove it from to figure out how to put it back on.

Edited by moonigan on Tuesday 5th June 21:09

[sajafzal]

nigestar said:

Intrigued to learn ( upgrade to turbo version aside) if the new cabin tech and ambience, new rear light cluster is is sufficient compared to your old one. would the std new Petrol Cayenne be enough or would you stick?

New "cabin tech" is superb, a world apart from previous model. although I think everyone's awaiting a software update. Cabin ambience new versions feels a lot more spacious, not sure if this is a good thing, as I think the previous model felt sportier, the switchgear in previous model I prefered.

I love look of new interior but how practical is the dash. A lot of new tech that could also go wrong if you plan to hold onto it beyond 3 years.

, I would not worry as this new system looks like it is software dependant, so fingers crossed they will keep upto date, if I keep my car beyond 3 years I will always get a 2 year extendable warranty.

Hope this helps

Saj

[sajafzal]

nigestar said:

Intrigued to learn ( upgrade to turbo version aside) if the new cabin tech and ambience, new rear light cluster is is sufficient compared to your old one. would the std new Petrol Cayenne be enough or would you stick?

I love look of new interior but how practical is the dash. A lot of new tech that could also go wrong if you plan to hold onto it beyond 3 years.

Hit submit too quick, since having the Turbo, everything seems to happen quickly !!

The new rear light cluster looks superb, especially at night, but there a three dots, indentations which look like they are there from manufacturing which will collect dirt that bug me, but thats probably the OCD in me.

Gear lever needs getting used to, if you come from a BMW probably easier,

Hectic buttons around gearshift are not for me, would much rather have previous, but maybe I will get used to it.

I like the button filled cabin of old, and I definitely preferred the look and especially the feel of the old buttons, the actual dash I much prefer the new one, much clearer, especially at night.

Saj

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Moog72 said:

Placed an order for an S a couple of weeks ago, trading “up” from a 981 Boxster S. Been told late Sept / Oct delivery. Was very impressed by the ride and performance for such a big hector, plus the interior tech is a step up. Looking forward to it!

Thats a pretty decent lead time considering the shut down.

Hope you drove one before deciding to trade "up". I do enjoy driving it and doubt i'd have been happy in a floaty SUV ala RR. But I jumped in a VW Arteon the other day and it didn't take long to remind me what I'm missing. On the other hand, my back and 3 year olds head thank me every day for trading "up" to an SUV

[Cobnapint]

Agree on the dashboard comments. In the name of tech for the sake of tech, they've taken away what I would say was the perfect centre console button layout.

I don't get the decision to use pushbuttons instead of ye olde headlight switch either. You knew where you stood with that.

Or the removal of telephone controls off the multifunction steering wheel.

Or the decision to reduce the vehicle height while making it wider and longer.

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sajafzal said:

Gear lever needs getting used to, if you come from a BMW probably easier,

Park Button is at the bottom instead of the top, but as you say doesn't feel odd to me coming from a BMW. I am having some issues with the stick though. Its a little stiff going into reverse sometimes. It feels like its catching the gate between auto and manual mode. The BMW shifter seemed much better in this respect.

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Cobnapint said:

Agree on the dashboard comments. In the name of tech for the sake of tech, they've taken away what I would say was the perfect centre console button layout.

I guess its subjective really. Aesthetically I didn't like that old design at all.

Cobnapint said:

I don't get the decision to use pushbuttons instead of ye olde headlight switch either. You knew where you stood with that.

Agreed, but given I leave it in auto I hadn't realised until someone mentioned it on here

Cobnapint said:

Or the removal of telephone controls off the multifunction steering wheel.

It has phone controls? It is annoying you can only flick between last calls using the steering wheel though. And that it wont pull my favourites from my phone. Hopefully they will do a software update to address this.

Cobnapint said:

Or the decision to reduce the vehicle height while making it wider and longer.

Aesthetically I think it looks better. Functionally probably not

I'll add a gripe of my own. Rear middle seat design is piss poor. I've stuck both car seats in now and theres room for someone in the middle. But who the hell came up with that exposed middle seat belt design. Is it really acceptable that middle passenger gets to have their bum over the hole where the seat belt clip was folded into :/ Or the iso fix covers that I'm bound to lose.