Hartech rebuild

[ATM]

£15,990

full engine rebuild by Hartech in 2011

2003 Targa
Manual
126,000 Miles

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//222549597006

[northernmedia]

Another here...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-911-997-3-8-CARR...


Near 9k bill.

[EGTE]

Unfortunately that's half a rebuild.....4,5 and 6 only.

[northernmedia]

they're the ones that normally score

[bgunn]

anonymous said:

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If the bores are Nikasil, it doesn't really matter what the pistons are coated with, as the fragments of silicon that cause the coating to break away won't be coming out of the bore surface like it does on lokasil.

But yeah, if you've got the block apart, it makes sense to do them all - sell a kidney if needs be.

£2500 + vat gets you six Nikasil liners in the block - I think my plan is to get my engine out myself, strip it, get the block done (to 3.7) and then rebuild it myself. Saves £3500 + VAT of labour that I know I can do myself (and would be rather interesting as I've not rebuilt a boxer engine before), and means the car can stay at home in bits whilst the block halves are machined.

[bgunn]

anonymous said:

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Ahh, I get ya.

Yeah, seems like a ridiculous false economy to me, as it'll all need to come apart again in due course. The back is broken on the job by getting the engine out and splitting it, really.

[ATM]

bgunn said:

anonymous said:

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Ahh, I get ya.

Yeah, seems like a ridiculous false economy to me, as it'll all need to come apart again in due course. The back is broken on the job by getting the engine out and splitting it, really.

I generally believe most of these minor rebuilds are paid for by dealers who need to make a repair economically. Probably because they've been stung by taking a lemon in part ex or been testing the car prior to sale and its gone boom.

The receipt above is to a dealer.

[bgunn]

ATM said:

I generally believe most of these minor rebuilds are paid for by dealers who need to make a repair economically. Probably because they've been stung by taking a lemon in part ex or been testing the car prior to sale and its gone boom.

The receipt above is to a dealer.

Indeed. I wouldn't buy such a car.

[anonymous-user]

It also depends upon how much of the engine has been rebuilt, having all 6 cylinders sorted out is worth more than if only 1 or liners are replaced, not all Hartech rebuilds are equal.

Not to mention the IMS which can completely lunch an engine and the RMS.

Always buyer beware with these cars.

[ATM]

ATM said:

ATM said:

Mario149 said:

ATM said:

There is this cat d 4s manual which mentions Hartech but no details so could be anything from just a service. Its been for sale for a little while.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272551257626

Assuming your standard 25% discount for a Cat D, that would be £20K for a 135K mile C4S, which is strong money when you have stuff like this avaiable from a known dealer:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Now an auction and nearly finished. Bidding is up to 14600 so far. I was tempted when it was 13.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282389560082

It's back and in Spain

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142405526758

Its back again and now an auction

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142461837303

[AyBee]

So what's wrong with it? Other than what is being divulged...

[ATM]

AyBee said:

So what's wrong with it? Other than what is being divulged...

There is no actual proof it has had a rebuild. Just some words in the description. And its cat d. And its in Spain. Thats it. Could be a cheap bit of flash or a pup.